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Karen Buckley missing in Glasgow

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hollyisalovelyname · 14/04/2015 16:47

26 year old occupational therapist student missing in Glasgow.
Mumsnetters Please keep your eyes and ears open - you might find something beneficial to her being found.

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123upthere · 15/04/2015 11:50

I agree with you MK I don't think she was like someone to just go off with a guy like him for sex no offence to him I think she'd be quite savvy having travelled so extensively according to the papers

Momagain1 · 15/04/2015 11:52

if I were to tell my friends I'm off to the loo, and not return, but instead go off with a man, well that would either be because I was stumbling around the club completely drunk ( thus clearly a man sober enough to drive would not take me home for sex)

What world do you live in? Sober men, or at least more sober than the woman, aim for sex with drunk women all the time. And sober enough to manage to drive is not the same as sober, either. Plenty of mildly drunk people manage to drive without actually wrecking the car. Drunk enough to go off on a whim, without considering friends or jacket, with a man drunk enough to also go off on a whim, is normal in every way. Probably several dozen other couples did the exact same thing from that club that night, and hundreds across the city. But they either stayed over, or were taken home, or got a taxi.

There are very few places where walking alone, still buzzed, at 4 am is a reasonable plan for a woman. Sadly.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 15/04/2015 12:20

I think speculating that he must have abducted her because you don't think he is good looking is a bit excessive.

PisforPeter · 15/04/2015 12:25

I think it's odd for a soberish man to be hanging around a nightclub like that??
They said the are looking for a grey car that was acting suspiciously 11am-3pm on Monday.
He has a silver/grey car.
They are doing a finger tip search of his garden. I don't believe that he is 'not a suspect'

PisforPeter · 15/04/2015 12:26

I know what mkz means though & I agree FWIW

123upthere · 15/04/2015 12:27

Fanjo isn't it just stating the obvious that this guy on first look is not someone you'd think of in this way? Plenty of people are judged on looks it's how we are unfortunately

Psipsina · 15/04/2015 12:36

Clearly we're not being told everything which is fine by me. It's not our place to try and make sense of the limited info we have been given.

mkz10 · 15/04/2015 12:51

Fanjo, no I am not stating he abducted her because he is not good-looking.

I am commenting about her, and I am stating that I very much doubt she went home with him for a quick sex session if he was a stranger to her. If they already knew each other, than it could be a different story about the consensual sex.

Lets not forget the other possibility, that maybe she would never, ever consider going home with anyone for sex on a one night stand. It is his word for the moment.

I am sure the police have some reason for reporting that aspect of this witnesses account of their time together. Maybe everyone who knows her would know that his account could not possibly be true, who knows!!

Jackieharris · 15/04/2015 13:15

Mkz10 do you not believe people have one night stands?

If she has only been in Glasgow since February then I'd question whether these new friends knew her well enough to know if this was in her character.

What does seem unusual to me is her leaving at 4am. If I went somewhere I'd always stay the night and head home in the morning. So that makes me think they might have fallen out over something. But other people do prefer to leave ASAP after DTD.

Dorchester ave to hill street is a very long walk (but quite easy as it's mostly a straight wide road) esp in heels. But I'm another person who feels safer walking than getting in a taxi.

mrsmeerkat · 15/04/2015 13:26

I was really hoping for some good news by now... well praying for some. I have made silly mistakes in the past. I can relate to her. Poor family having to go through all of this. She may have been lonely and just wanted a bit of fun, I get the thing that he may not be physically attractive but he could be a charmer, paid her a few compliments so she just went for it, maybe regretted it, didn't want her friends to know type of thing...
so rushed home- you just don't know. :(

Everything ahead of her, everything going for her..

MackerelOfFact · 15/04/2015 13:26

What I find odd is that her flatmates raised the alarm that she was missing at 5am. Why 5am? If she was having a ONS she could feasibly not have been back until much later on.

If they were concerned she was missing from the club (not sure if she was out with the flatmates or not) then why wait until 5am?

She left the guy's house at 4am, so if they were worried she'd not made it back home from his by 5am that sort of implies she'd been in contact with them after leaving his flat. It just doesn't really make sense.

PisforPeter · 15/04/2015 13:30

Presumably she would normally text/whatsapp etc if she was with a chap??
Lots of people do silly drunken things at Uni, looking back I was probably lucky to come out if it in one piece Blush

SilverHawk · 15/04/2015 13:30

Maybe due on a 6am shift?

mkz10 · 15/04/2015 13:33

I do believe people have one night stands, I also believe that other people would never consider a one night stand.

Not sure, but I think some of her friends in Glasgow were friends from Ireland, so probably not 'new' friends.

And it seems they knew her very well, well enough to be immediately extremely worried that she had not come home and had not contacted them. Unfortunately, they were proven right, that this was so out of character for their friend, something bad had to have happened to her.

Hence, I'm not so sure she was a one-night stand person at all.

Jackieharris · 15/04/2015 13:39

You can't tell if someone is a 'one night stand person' by looking at them. What a horrible comment to make!

No matter what none of this is her fault. 100% of the blame has to be on the perpetrator.

mkz10 · 15/04/2015 13:54

Sorry, Jackie, I didn't mean to imply that someone can look or doesn't look like a one night stand person.

People are saying that maybe she did agree to go to his house for a one night stand, and nothing wrong with that at all, if she had.

However , all the evidence is pointing to the fact that she wasn't someone who had one night stands, or at least didn't go off on a one night stand, without letting her friends know where she was.

Considering that her friends were already extremely worried enough by 5am to call the police, I think it is likely that this is not something she had done before and they absolutely knew something must have happened to her.

That leads on to the next question, how accurate is that guys statement about consensual sex.

I know lots of people who would never ever dream of having a one-night stand, and lots of people who have no problem with it in the right circumstance.

MrsPeabody · 15/04/2015 14:13

Agreed, her friends said it was very out of character of her.

123upthere · 15/04/2015 14:13

Personally when I was a student I was terrified of one night stands in a strange city but I did go out get drink and flirt lots. My 'new' uni mates thought nothing of regular ONS. So in a way M I see what you mean. Not everyone is up for a ONS

RudeBarbandCustard · 15/04/2015 14:14

Very worrying, I can't stop thinking about those poor parents.

As is always the way with these cases, there will be a lot more we don't know, such as why the friends raised the alarm at 5am (seems odd), why the police said that about 'consensual intimacy' and more.

Poor girl.

PterodactylTeaParty · 15/04/2015 14:53

I thought it was 5pm that her friends called the police, not 5am?

123upthere · 15/04/2015 15:45

No stone left unturned in his flat and he's not a suspect?

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PterodactylTeaParty · 15/04/2015 15:57

It's just the police as far as I know. The statement this afternoon (from the Greater Glasgow Police Facebook page):

^"Officers continue to carry out enquiries to locate missing 24 year-old Karen Buckley today.

Specialist officers are carrying out a detailed search of Dawsholm Park and the surrounding area with support from the air support unit, marine policing underwater unit, specialist crime division, police search dogs and operational patrols.

Speaking today, Detective Superintendent Jim Kerr said:
"Our absolute priority is to find Karen Buckley. We have a team of specialist search officers from the west and east working in the area as well as additional patrols in the west end and north of the city.
"Anyone with any information, no matter how insignificant it may seem, should contact 101 or anonymously on Crimestoppers.""^

Dawsholm Park is not a small city park - it's big and hilly with lots of thick woods and a river running through it. It would be very easy to get lost in there in the dark (I've done it in daylight!).

I don't think we can assume too much from the police searching the flat of the man who was last seen with her - it only makes sense that they're going to pursue all possibilities.

giraffesCantBunnyHop · 15/04/2015 16:10

Been out all day with limited signal. Logged on hoping for news.

AyeAmarok · 15/04/2015 16:20

Also just logged in hoping for news.

I'm actually really upset that people were putting, and being allowed to put, RIP on FB last night. That's not sharing information in order to help, that's just wanting to be first to break the news and then be smug in being right. Which is just sick. Totally sick.

Sad

Please someone find her. I can't imagine how horrible this must be for everyone who knew her.