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Charlotte Wyatt to go into foster care

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ginmummy · 16/10/2006 06:48

...because, according to the news, her seperated parents can't give her the care that she needs. It so sad, I want to cry. Poor, poor Charlotte, poor, poor parents.

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GreenSepticStumps · 17/10/2006 22:07

Isn't it a bit of a Pyrrhic victory, fox, if nobody is listening?

HappyMumof2 · 17/10/2006 22:07

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GreenSepticStumps · 17/10/2006 22:08

....and I wouldn't bother running, you're not saying anything that hasn't been said a million times before by other Thatcherites.

kittythescarygoblin · 17/10/2006 22:08

calm down, calm down, ooh I've always wanted to say that

Socci · 17/10/2006 22:08

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SamhainWitch · 17/10/2006 22:11

kitty - No not following you around at all. I read the majority of conversations on this board. It is a habit I formed when I was a moderator.

FWIW I do think it has to do with this thread, it is the posters on this thread you were referring to and I am disgusted at your comments.

I did post on the thread you made the comments on but you didn't bother to reply.

foxinbubblesletsmaketrouble · 17/10/2006 22:12

I've never voted Tory - being a socialist doesn't mean you agree with people sponging of the state!!!

I suppose "right to life" also means having as many kids as you want and expecting the state to pick up the tab, while other people go out to work to pay for you?

BATtymumma · 17/10/2006 22:15

I work and pay taxes - we would love to keep reproducing but we cannot afford it - no I don't resent my taxes paying for Charlotte's care but do resent my taxes being spent on people who can't work/won't work and by all accounts are completely anti-social as well

posted by fox at 9:42.

So you resent the fact that as a single mother of two young children, one of which has complex Sn your taxes, in part, go towards my benefits?
you resent the fact that i left my partner and job as a social worker to instead live off the state?

would you have considered it better for me to conitnue being beaten daily, for my childrent o witness me being raped? for my children to be screamed at and verbally abused?

please, before you make sweeping generalisations consider the full consequences of that statement....and if that comment was made after consideration then please please, stay far far away from me!

GreenSepticStumps · 17/10/2006 22:16

I don't believe that there are very many people who do deliberately have child after child, fell nothing for them, discard them, sit at home because they are too lazy to work, blah blah - I've never accepted that people like this form the bulk of benefits recipients in this country. It's just a tired, vindictive mantra trotted out by people who don't want to contribute to the greater good - a convenient cover for what basically boils down to selfishness, greed and the "It's mine and I'm not sharing it" ethic which characterised Thatcherism.

HappyMumof2 · 17/10/2006 22:18

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kittythescarygoblin · 17/10/2006 22:19

sahainwitch, I don't spend all my time flitting through threads. I think you'll find that I have been called a lot, lot worse than that on here for daring to be outside the box, I suppose that makes it disgusting too then? as i said the choice of word was random, it makes no odds to me, chose one that makes you feel better. And no I'm not being facetious.

kittythescarygoblin · 17/10/2006 22:20

How on earth to do manage to browse all the boards?
happymum, I agree with you, a bit strange that, oh well.

foxinbubblesletsmaketrouble · 17/10/2006 22:22

Kitty - no I reckon the witch just fancies you

uh oh , they're starting to try and guilt trip me now too, for daring to have a differing opinion waits for more personal insults

eidsvold · 17/10/2006 22:23

rust that is your decision - one you are entitled to ( as to having no more children) I have a daughter with sn - lots of appts, therapy etc - and I am about to have my third child - again my choice. I just feel so sad for that family. None of us can imagine the toll their situation put on them. Clearly they have been under such stress that none of us can truly imagine or comprehend and yet here we sit in judgement.

Three weeks with dd1 in hospital was the most stressful time of my life. I have no idea how parents whose children are in long term cope - it is such a difficult environment. Whilst there - a little one was in hospital - the only time his mother came to visit was the day the babe was released. She had a number of other children to care for and was unable to visit - for whatever reason.

Do we condemn - nope - I just thought how lucky I was at that stage that dd1 was my only and I could spend all the time needed with her - in fact leave home and be in the hospital with her.

Again - there by the grace of god go I...... cannot imagine how I would cope with that situation.

BATtymumma · 17/10/2006 22:24

how on earth have you managed to spend the last 48 hours (pretty much solid) on MN when you have apparantly 5/6 children?

niceglasses · 17/10/2006 22:27

Nobody minds anyone having a differing opinion as far as I can see if that is your main concern foxy, kitty et al. I think if you put it forward in a coherent way no one will condemn you even if they disagree.

I think tho, when you go to unrelated threads and call other posters t**ts to a bunch of pple not even in the debate - I don't care if you word it 'thinking out of the box' or whatever term you'd like to back up your nastiness - it is just that - nasty.

kittythescarygoblin · 17/10/2006 22:29

Apparantly? batymama, I am cunning and my time mangment is good, Also I post quickly, me I'm nipping around everywhere.

HappyMumof2 · 17/10/2006 22:31

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BATtymumma · 17/10/2006 22:31

apparantly - i hadn't actually seen you post that you had 5/6 i think i ha seen it posted by someone else so didn't want to give you more children than you actually had if the other poster was mistaken.

rust · 17/10/2006 22:34

People all talk very different and use different langage but as long as people make valued points thats all that i think matters. try to be open minded i do think my PND was out of order but the bad langage should not offend

BATtymumma · 17/10/2006 22:35

happymumof2. i was one of the few original posters on this thread and havnt once been rude to KITTY.

i have openly disagreed and found her POV so very far removed fromy own that i couldn't quite understadn it.
to me it seemed so very wrong, my head just couldn't even see how any normal person would think that.

BUT if the rest of the information that has been stated on this thread...parents not visitin, father being DV, other children on at risk etc etc then yes i can...to a certain extent can see why you would be a little more negative in yrou view of the family.

That doesn't mean i agree with your view. i really really dont and still find much of your argument nonsensicle but, i can understand your annoytance at the Wyatts in general given the extra info.

foxinbubblesletsmaketrouble · 17/10/2006 22:35

Niceglasses - I haven't called anyone a twat. Not even sure what it means TBH.

Batty - sorry if I offended you - loads of people quite legitimately claim benefits I know and |I fully support all the the decisions you've described. I'm just PG and very tired having to work full time at the moment, so feeling a bit resentful, particularly about the huge amounts of Tax Gordon leaches from me, but that's another discussion.

TBH am feeling a bit upset about the abandonment of Charlotte and what the outcome has been for her - yeah I do feel angry towards her parents and feel they've manipulated the press etc, and I feel very sorry for their children, particularly Charlotte, but there you go.

Have to go to bed now, as am up at 6am for work - have a good discussion

eidsvold · 17/10/2006 22:36

sorry but twat is offensive to me. I would never dream of using that word with regards to someone else.

kittythescarygoblin · 17/10/2006 22:37

Niceglases. chose what word you want. People on this thread have nasty offensive, agressive and unnecessarily rude all the way through. I have done none of these things. I have held my own amoungst a torrent of unpleasantness with very little back up. i see another member treated so babdly they want to leave. I then go and speak to a friend about the awful behaviour I have witnessed on this thread. I have a right to say what I like. Don't be such a hypocrite. You and and those who think like you here haven't been holding back have you? I if it matters to you so much, where where you when I was being attacked??
I didn't notice you leaping to my defence.

Socci · 17/10/2006 22:38

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