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islamist extremists strike in france

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KareninsGirl · 07/01/2015 13:00

My thoughts are with the victims of the latest barbaric act by Islamic extremists.

The world needs to wake up and defend itself.

RIP those who died and prayers for those critically injured.

at French magazine office www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30710883

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DoraGora · 09/01/2015 17:37

If you're all going to have a childish scrap about nothing, please can you do it someplace else.

msgrinch · 09/01/2015 17:39

I don't think the deaths of 20 innocent people is something to start an argument over. If people cope by informing themselves through media that's fine. If people don't like that that's also fine.

Let's agree to disagree.

GingerCuddleMonster · 09/01/2015 17:40

your just being a hater now Grin hater, hater hater, so much hate.

excuse me while I twerk, and stick my tounge out.

You lost all hope of being taken seriously when you personally insulted others, but you reached a new level when you used "to the haters" like a hard done by teen on Twitter.

SnowBells · 09/01/2015 17:41

Permacult

If you don't know about Charlie Hebdo's background...

The magazine used to be called Hara-Kiri. It changed its name after being banned for creating a spoof cover following the death of Charles de Gaulle. The founding editor in chief, Francois Cavanna, was the son of an Italian immigrant he grew up in Paris, but was sent to work in Germany by the Nazis. It was there where he came up with the "nothing-is-sacred" philosophy - which is pretty understandable. In his own words:

Others, they immerse themselves in grand deeds, ideals above everything, invisible and abstract things that 'give meaning' to life... God, country, humanity, race, class, family, heritage, success, duty, heroism, sacrifice, martyrdom (inflicted or attained), career, power, glory, submission, humility... Overcoming oneself. Overcoming the human, the animal in the human. Rejecting the fact that we are on this world just to stuff ourselves with food, crap, sleep, screw and croak, like any other animal. The need for 'something different'... They swallow it, swallow it whole. But isn't that idiotic, too, isn't that futile, too? Me, I don't submit to it. I don't let my emotions take control, short my small, cold, reasonable mind. At least I try.

This is from an article on Bloomberg, but I thought to add this instead as most people don't click on links.

I haven't read most of your posts. But we run the risk of denial by being overly politically correct. We keep silent, when really, we should speak up.

SnowBells · 09/01/2015 17:44

... in the Third Reich, there were plenty of people who were silent, but really should have spoken up...

Thereyouarepeter · 09/01/2015 17:50

50,000 police in paris and one of the gunmen has escaped apparently - telegraph

permacult · 09/01/2015 17:53

Still wanting to see an answer to the question I asked about how two petty criminal potheads are being assumed to be Muslim fundamentalists... all I am seeing is the evasion of the question by whatever means possible. I think I have won.

msgrinch · 09/01/2015 17:55

Are you unable to use Google or view the news to answer your question in full detail? It's all there for you to read.
What have you won? Absolutely nothing, zilch. All you are doing us arguing over a tragedy. That's not winning anything.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 09/01/2015 17:56

I don't give a shit what they are- Muslim Christian Jew. They're terrorists - and you defended them.

You said they were provoked. You said boo hoo about the Hebdo deaths. You said the cartoons were a physical attack.

Thereyouarepeter · 09/01/2015 17:57

permacult

Last time I checked petty criminal potheads don't own AK47's, they don't go to Yemean for 6 months for military training and they don't kill 12 people in cold blood.

Anything else?

WetAugust · 09/01/2015 17:59

We used to have a poster on this subject called Gazouille who thought this was all one big Zionist conspiracy. Gaz hasn't posted for a while. As Permacult has only existed as a username since yesterday they probably haven't read Gaz's posts. Never mind, all idiots are useful to someone.

BackOnlyBriefly · 09/01/2015 18:00

I think I have won.

Wonderful!

Are you claiming that people who take drugs can't be Muslim? If so you might start by reading about the Order Of Assassins and more recently the Taliban.

If you are claiming that a Muslim can't be a criminal then who are those people in prison (or with missing hands) in Islamic countries?

msgrinch · 09/01/2015 18:00

All the 'potheads' I know wouldn't have the drive or energy to do anything more than head to the fridge.

3littlefrogs · 09/01/2015 18:00

There is a hostage situation in Montpelier and a bomb alert in Bordeaux.

This is horrendous. It seems it has been orchestrated. Sad

WetAugust · 09/01/2015 18:02

They walk amongst us. And I am not talking about terrorists

permacult · 09/01/2015 18:02

MGrinch - no because it is your types who are saying it on MN, not the media that I access.
JFR But you do so care to promote the belief that they were Muslim fundamentalists taking over the world, need to be reined in, promoting Shariah law and don't fucking deny it to make yourself look good. Don't backtrack and quote selectively, it is a dirty tactic I'm guessing you picked up from the Daily Mail.
I am against wars. I am against terrorism. I am against ISIS. I am not Charlie.

Snow - I don't know what you are implying. I know about the publication because someone close to me is married to one of it's staff.I also know how the idea of a deranged, uncouth Muslim gunning down arteestes in Paree tugs at the heartstrings in the ways the true terrorists would know.

msgrinch · 09/01/2015 18:03

Perma please read my posts and don't put words in my mouth. Thanks

permacult · 09/01/2015 18:04

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BackOnlyBriefly · 09/01/2015 18:04

permacult you have said one thing I agree with. You are NOT Charlie.

WetAugust · 09/01/2015 18:05

Shock Confused Angry

msgrinch · 09/01/2015 18:05

Are you unable to have a debate/discussion without personally insulting people who have differing views?

JohnFarleysRuskin · 09/01/2015 18:06

Er you must have confused me with another poster. Genuinely. I have never mentioned sharia law in a post ever. I don't know anything about it. And I don't believe fundamentalists are tKing over the world.

permacult · 09/01/2015 18:06

WeAugust - I suppose I am also SebsMum as well along with the Muslim posters who came and went because of your goady fuckwittery.. right? We don't like conspiracies or we do .. which is it?

permacult · 09/01/2015 18:08

Ok so there is not a small amount of backtracking happening here and all because I put my money where my mouth is.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 09/01/2015 18:08

Find the posts where you believe I said that. I don't talk/think like that.