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Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

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claig · 10/12/2014 17:51

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

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Hakluyt · 17/12/2014 15:22

Are you ignoring the many cases where the Mail has been very wide of the truth indeed?

claig · 17/12/2014 15:23

"They don't claig-see kim147's figures above."

But most young people don't buy papers, they read their news online and the Daily Mail Online is the world's number one online newssite. They don't print the sidebar of shame for older people, they don't know who Kim Kardashian is and they don't care.

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claig · 17/12/2014 15:29

Roy Greenslade, experienced media journalist, says

"If Richard Desmond's papers back Ukip, it could affect the election result"

That is the Express and the Star and the two Sundays. He says it will possibly cost the Tories seats.

If the Mail ever backed UKIP, then it would be game over. If you read their readers' comments you can see that they nearly all back UKIP over the Tories. The Mail won't back UKIP, but if it did, the Tories would be toast. That is how influential the Mail is. It sends shivers down the metropolitan elite's and the political Westminster spinners' spines.

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kim147 · 17/12/2014 15:29

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claig · 17/12/2014 15:31

"I also wonder how much of the online readership is celebrity driven and not news driven."

Yes, the celebrity stuff is for younger people.

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RedToothBrush · 17/12/2014 15:32

world's number one online news site huh?

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claig · 17/12/2014 15:33

'Followed very closely by the Guardian. '

The Guardian is a good paper, it is more indepth of foreign news. It is very good too. We are very well served in Britain with our great journalists and papers and some of them are very funny too.

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slug · 17/12/2014 15:34

It took me 4 questions to get to hated

ChristmasDawndonnaagain · 17/12/2014 15:37

I needed cheering up and this thread has done it, the levels of paranoia are amazing!

claig · 17/12/2014 15:39

'the levels of paranoia are amazing'

Absolutely, Christmas. I've been trying to add some balance to stop the utter panic and paranoia about the People's Army and the Daily Mail.

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kim147 · 17/12/2014 15:41

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RedToothBrush · 17/12/2014 15:42

Wouldn't they all just hate each other and start fighting amongst themselves kim?

RedToothBrush · 17/12/2014 15:43

Or would they be scared that if they started an army they'd all catch cancer and die?

claig · 17/12/2014 15:47

'I am trying to imagine an army of Daily Mail readers.'

If you remember that legendary week in the early 1990s when the Mail had them all on the run, the week when the Mail decided to go against GM food. Every single day for a whole week they ran a frontpage story on "Frankenstein Food" etc and the BBC and the entire Establishment were reeling, the Mail didn't give them a breather - phone-ins talked of nothing else, there was talk of marches and the Mail turned the screw, the spinners didn't know what to do. Middle England was hopping mad over "Frankenstein food". It was incredible how the Mail had them reeling.

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claig · 17/12/2014 15:52

I've never been on a march but the Mail had me hopping mad too, and I'm usually a beacon of calm and reason in a storm of raving lunacy. I even phoned up Greenpeace or Friends of the Earth and said when's the march and where is setting off from? And they told me there isn't one.

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kim147 · 17/12/2014 15:52

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claig · 17/12/2014 15:57

They showed pictures of tomatoes and potatoes that were positively frightening, hamburgers that looked like they could bite. "Frankenstein" screamed the headlines and the content of the articles spelt the grim facts out.

In the end they called it off, just as well, because people were asking each other the question "what the hell are they up to?"

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ChristmasDawndonnaagain · 17/12/2014 15:59

Claig Am I right in thinking that in actual fact you're a Guardian reading leftie and just taking the piss big time? Please tell me I am.

claig · 17/12/2014 16:00

'And did the campaign succeed?'

The spinners said "we have heard you", "we get it", "we're listening" and then carried on with their usual game.

But we didn't have GM trials in most of Europe and the EU stopped US GM food being for sale (if I remember rightly) but of course our animals are fed with GM food, so it gets into our food chain anyway.

TTIP is the new battleground and may open the door to Frankenstein food again. You can bet the Mail will be right up there with the people supporting us all the way.

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Hakluyt · 17/12/2014 16:00

How can you post that and still talk about the Mail being "the truth"?

RedToothBrush · 17/12/2014 16:01

If you remember that legendary week in the early 1990s... Well apart from being about 12/13 in the early 90s so not really remembering much beyond the biggest news stories of the day, having to go back that far really is clutching at straws don't you think?

Perhaps if they started campaigning for the polar bears they'd attract enough support.

Hakluyt · 17/12/2014 16:01

So UKIP is opposed to GM?

claig · 17/12/2014 16:03

'Am I right in thinking that in actual fact you're a Guardian reading leftie and just taking the piss big time?'

No, I am taking the piss out of the Mail and the People's Army but that is because I like them and they are fun. You have to laugh at yourself and the things you like as well, not just laugh at others. Politics is fun, it is about having a laugh too, but it is also serious, but that doesn't mean you can't see the funny side of it too.

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RedToothBrush · 17/12/2014 16:04

ChristmasDawndonnaagain Wed 17-Dec-14 15:59:42
Claig Am I right in thinking that in actual fact you're a Guardian reading leftie and just taking the piss big time? Please tell me I am.

I'm honestly beyond caring. Happy to bite regardless!

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