Conservative Carswell defects to UKIP

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Modernizer Carwell won the new Clacton seat in 2010 with a large majority, heavily influenced by Ukip deciding not to stand a candidate themselves – so he has found a natural home with those that have a totally anti EU stance, but seems to forget that Ukip without a parliamentary majority cannot change British law to bring us out.

Claig …… after all your rants about right wing ‘modernizers’, you now own another one – so time for you to ‘jump’ the other way? lol

P.S. His defection was hardly cold, but by 1.30pm Wikipedia had been changed to reflect his defection. Who do you think was in a hurry to reflect his move, Ukip or the Conservatives? lol

Sky showing Farage touring a Doncaster engineering firm and Sky reporter said Farage represented the workers' views. Reporter asked an emlpoyee if she had any reservations and she said "none at all".

Hilarious piece on Sky News Nige wrote his speech in longhand notes over lunch. The reporter showed two sheets of hand scribbled notes on A4 and said that normally reporters are handed full copies if the leaders speech but this us the only copy of Niges speech that he could find

I sense the media us starting to sense the ground swell I sense that the media is becoming a little less hostile to the party I mY be wrong.

Ah we x posted Claig so you've seen the bit I mentioned

"Labour Panic Amidst Rumours It May Lose By-Election to UKIP
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Labour has been sent into a panic after rumours circulated they might be beaten in the House of Commons by-election for the seat of Heywood and Middleton on 9th October. The poll was triggered when veteran Labour MP Jim Dobbin died earlier this month.

For years the seat was considered to be 'safe' by Labour, and had a majority of nearly six thousand in 2010. However, the party are worried the UKIP surge may still rob them of the seat, which has led to the Labour whips desperately sending MPs to the area.

According to the Sun, senior officials in the Labour Party have been left “stunned” by the recent surge in popularity of UKIP. A source within Labour told the Sun that it was “all hands to the pump” and every MP has been called to help retain the seat.

Labour MP Simon Danczuk, who represents neighbouring Rochdale, said: “We must fight Heywood and Middleton like we’ve never fought a by-election before.

“We need to throw the kitchen sink at it. UKIP is a serious threat here and I’m pleased to say the party have woken to this.”

www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/24/Labour-Put-All-Hands-To-The-Pump-Amidst-Rumours-It-May-Lose-By-Election

If there is a high turnout, ordinary people may topple Labour from their fiefdom.

This Breitbart London is a good source, it reports stuff that the Telegraph and the Mail don't report - real stuff on the ground. Never heard this about UKIP and foreign aid before. It puts it in contrast when you see how much of our money our "modernisers" spend compared to Spain and Italy. Wait until the people of Doncaster hear about the generosity of our "modernisers".

"UKIP are proposing a huge cut in Britain's Overseas Aid budget in their manifesto due to be published this weekend. The party will announce that they would reduce the pot from £10.3bn to £1.3bn – a total of £45bn over the next parliament, Breitbart London can exclusively reveal.
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Although the cut is almost 90 percent of the budget it would still leave enough in the pot for the UK government to spend twice as much as Spain and Italy combined. UKIP insiders are said to believe that Spain and Italy are the right countries to compare the UK to.

All three are European, amongst the richest countries in the world and have colonial ties. UKIP hope highlighting the huge disparity between the UK's overseas aid budget and that of Spain and Italy it will justify the policy. However, by keeping the budget at twice the level of Spain and Italy combined they do risk being seen as too timid by some of the UKIP faithful."

www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/23/UKIP-Propose-45bn-Overseas-Aid-Cut

We have never had a party in Britain that has broken through the cosy consensus of the metropolitan elite, the Westminster elite and the BBC luvvies. It is amazing that UKIP have broken the barrier and are saying what the millions of people in the silent majority think.

A perfect storm appears to be gathering with the reawakening of an interstate in politics during ether Scottish referendum, an unelectable L about clown for a leader, an untrustworthy Tory leader elite government, an unpopular war and the popularity of UKIP in offering something different.

out of this soup something interesting may emerge.

Yes, everything is coming togethr and ordinary people have had enough. The Sky report on the workers in the Doncaster engineerng company who all backed UKIP (all of those interviewed anyway) shows how far it has gone and shows how much Labour must be panicking. That is why their PPEs are going to parks and meeting Gareths etc - sheer desperation.

I still cannot understand what possessed Ed and his advisors to think that the leaders speech he gave would be acceptable. they were ripping the piss out of it on T his Week.

Well I met a bricklayer the other day who informed me he will be voting Ukip and a taxi driver 3 weeks ago and a teacher last month. So that's quite a widespread group of occupations.

I haven't yet steeled myself to join my local branch. I may just remain a closet supporter but faithful voter, as I have been for over a decade now.

I have a neighbour who has been out canvassing door to door for UKIP (local council elections) and yesterday I asked him how he was getting on. He said he was amazed at how many people have said to him "don't worry mate, your lot have already got our votes". One old lady of about 80 said she wants to meet "that lovely Mr Farage" .

Thanks for that feedback Pixel. I am utterly amazed at the support I am seeing on the TV. Claig predicted this and seems to have been correct. But I've been there before with the Referendum Party.

I am more of a pessimist. People will say one thing and co the opposite.

That is amazing Pixel. Great stuff. The silent majority has had enough and will vote agains the Establishment.

The trouble is Claig that I don't think the Establishment will permit public dissent. We saw some of their tactics during the Scottish vote. If England is under threat they will be merciless

The thing is that the Establishment have lost confidence, they are politically correct, they follow any fad like global warming, they can't stop our vacuum cleaners being banned, they don't care but even if they did, they can't stop it, they are subservent to the EU, they have to follow the line on Russia.

They are run by incompetents - look at Miliband's speech, it was patronising drivel. UKIP, the party of amateurs, is running rings around their PPEs. Farage said that British foreign policy has been a shambles for the past decade - last year the "modernisers" wanted to bomb Assad who is fighting Isis, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda and 100,000 funded terrorists, and now they are going to bomb Isis who has been supported and funded by some of our allies.

They nearly lost Scotland, it was touch and go.

Everybody now understands the problem of their incompetence. They have a politically correct groupthink and are out of touch with the people. Here is PPE Nick Cohen in this week's Spectator

"How an Oxford degree – PPE – created a robotic governing class

Most of our prominent politicians studied the same subject at Oxford. Is it any wonder we’re so badly governed?"

www.spectator.co.uk/features/9322492/the-politics-of-ppe/

"How an Oxford degree – PPE – created a robotic governing class'

I'm tending to agree. When government decided to go to war yesterday I thought that decision was robotic.

And I found myself wondering what Farage's opinion was, because agree or disagree with his opinions he does seem to allow himself an independent thought, and therefore worth listening to.

Mark Reckless Tory MP defects to UKIP

Game on!

Claig .... Mark Reckless MP, another Conservative 'man of the people' - needed to increase the Ukip intellect - if you want Conservatives, don't poach 'em, VOTE for 'em. lol

Reckless was educated at Marlborough College, an independent school in the market town of Marlborough in Wiltshire, followed by Christ Church at the University of Oxford, where he graduated in PPE. He then received an MBA from Columbia Business School in the United States. He trained as a barrister at the College of Law, gaining an LLB, and was called to the Bar in 2007

*And Farage confirmed my view that Carswell had to be BRIBED to join Ukip, having offered him Ukip Deputy Leader in the Mayfair eatery, or more accurate, Wheeler offering Carswell 'a big cog, in little Ukip wheeler'. lol

Why should only Labour, Conservative and LibDems have the benefit of the experience of PPEs?

It sounds like Mark Reckless was taught well to finally understand the merits of UKIP.

Wooooo! Hooooo!

Any more of your current lot that you'd like to rubbish while they are still Tory MPs. I e before they too defect?

Claig - so now you're saying that PPEs are a good thing?! Sounds like it as you are arguing that ukip also deserve the expertise that......a PPE degree brings. You are slippery woman.

Wet August .... ANY Conservative that joins the excuse of a political party Ukip, preying on peoples fears, like previous political leeches doing the same through history, IS RUBBISH, by political definition.

I was right about Carswell, he was BOUGHT with power, the just announced Deputy Leader of a small party, as he could not make minister in a big one.*

Power over policies, more like 1930's Germany by the week.

Oh dear. To lose one MP is...............

Tories are reported as very angry, Sky interviewed some of his constituents box pop style and the are behind his decision

Tories are starting to melt down now.

Heavy hints that another MP may be lined up for tomorrow when Cameron makes his speech.

that'll teach them to hold a debate on starting Gulf War 3 instead of televising Nigel's leaders speech

2 tornado jets sent over Iraq today but returned without making any attacks. Some wit on. Twitter saying they have now been diverted to Clacton and Rochester

Vox. Not box, obviously

can we have a Labour one next please?