Conservative Carswell defects to UKIP

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Modernizer Carwell won the new Clacton seat in 2010 with a large majority, heavily influenced by Ukip deciding not to stand a candidate themselves – so he has found a natural home with those that have a totally anti EU stance, but seems to forget that Ukip without a parliamentary majority cannot change British law to bring us out.

Claig …… after all your rants about right wing ‘modernizers’, you now own another one – so time for you to ‘jump’ the other way? lol

P.S. His defection was hardly cold, but by 1.30pm Wikipedia had been changed to reflect his defection. Who do you think was in a hurry to reflect his move, Ukip or the Conservatives? lol

'Louise Bours, now there's a delight, we don't believe in rehabilitation, hang 'em and flog 'em.'

Have you got the quote where she says that she does not believe in rehabilitation?

'Jane Collins supports Godfrey's slut remark.

Nuttall is still sounding off about hairdryers and hoovers.'

Bloom was joking. That is his sense of humour. He is cleverer than he makes out which makes me wonder if he is for real or not. Farage removed him.

Thank God Nuttall is speaking up about it, because Cameron and the modernisers certainly won't.

' It is a shame that being a bigot doesn't get you sacked from UKIP.'

Everyone who tweeted racist remarks was suspended or sacked by UKIP.

natural justice Supported by Paul Nuttall.
No ethical reason
there you go, Claig.
Time you started looking these things up yourself, really.

"I would like to congratulate the coalition government for bringing a whiff of privatisation into the beleaguered National Health Service"
"I would argue that the very existence of the NHS stifles competition"
"the NHS ... is not fit for purpose in the 21st Century"
Paul Nuttall

What is bigoted about that? That is the type of thing that a modernising Conservative might say or even a progressive Labour PPE.

Louise Bours supports the death penalty. I never thought about much, but recently I have switched in favour of it.

I don't think we should let killers like the man who threw a grenade and shot two policewomen down in cold blood after ambushing them, get out of jail after he has supposedly been rehabilitated.

An eye for an eye is wrong and there are many, many miscarriages of justice claig.

As for Nuttall. I didn't say it was bigotted, he's trying along with the Tories to sell off the NHS. That's a policy. It's wrong, it's dangerous and it's divisive.

'An eye for an eye is wrong and there are many, many miscarriages of justice claig.'

I now think that some crimes are so heinous, so disgusting, so abominable that society should mplement the ultimate sanction of the death penalty for those crimes. I do not see why the victims' relatives should have to suffer the thought that these criminals will come out one day and enjoy freedom, liberty and life while their loved one has gone forever.

I think that the death penalty for Ian Brady would have been the right thing to do, and he even wants to die now.

There are many miscarriages so we should only use the ultimate sanction where we have CCTV prrof or incontrovertible DNA proof (if that exists) as opposed to just witness testimony which may have been falsely extracted. I am not a lwayer, but I am sure that our best legal minds can come up with a system that eliminates miscarriages. For all other prisoners in that category, I think life should mean life. Insyead of locking up shoplifters and people who don't pay their TV licence, we should look up the really violent criminals for life.

'he's trying along with the Tories to sell off the NHS. That's a policy. It's wrong, it's dangerous and it's divisive.'

OK, then don't vote for him, but let's not smear UKIP as a bigotted, racist party just because we don't agree with all of their policies as some on the left try to do as the panic because UKIP is eating into the votes of the majority of the working class which will deprive the Oxbridge Labour PPEs of their influence.

I don't agree with all of their policies. I don't agree with fracking, but that is a political difference.

But they are bigoted and racist, and over a significant period of time you have been provided with a great deal of evidence. The only reason that you are still here is because people give up when cfronted with you sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting lalala. You keep going though, trust me you're doing us a favour.

Confronted.

Are Diane James, Louise Bours and Jane Collins racists?
Is Tory MP, Priti Patel's, father, who is/was a UKIP candidate, a racist?

Do you think that the millions of people who voted UKIP in the EU elections are racist?
Do you think the people of Clacton who will vote UKIP in a landslide against the Tories, are racist or would vote for racists?

Do you think that no black people vote UKIP? Do you think that there are no black UKIP candidates?

The Clacton result will be te biggest electoral shock in British politics since the Second World War.

Is it due to racism or because ordinary people have finally had enough of being misruled by a privileged out of touch elite (who are nearly all from Oxbridge or Eton and have a PPE which got them their position of supposedly representing the public) who are not on their side and do not care about or represent them?

We are witnessing the beginning of the end of this elitist out-of-touch system that ignores public opinion. The tremors wil be seen in Clacton and they will spread all over the country.

Ordinary peope have had enough of these spinners and they are going to vote them out.

Pandora's box is open, the genie is out of the bottle, the people have woken up because they are fed up of how they have been misruled.

And the spinners call UKIP racist and fruitcakes and loonies and still the public vote them in.

In fact they will vote them in in a landslide because they know that the spinners are cheaters and liars and that they will resort to any lowdown smear or trick to try and save their privileged positions.

No Claig but the party is racist. And bigoted. Just as you think that the main parties are hoodwinking the electorate, so are UKIP.

Farage went to public school. He is part of said elite.
As for the rest, it's slightly scary rhetoric. Not fact.

'but the party is racist'

Are Diane James, Louise Bours and Jane Collins racists? Or do they have principles and beliefs that they will fight for in order to make this country a better place for ordinary people to live?

'Farage went to public school. He is part of said elite. '

He isn't. They call him a "fruitcake". They think he is an upstart who is going to rock their boat. He disagrees with them about banning our vacuum cleaners and our hairdryers for the supposed sake of "saving the planet". He wants the people to have sovereignty and not to be ruled by an unelected, unaccountable elite of PPEs, enarques and sharks who think they know bestter than the people. He is not one of them, he is one of us, just like George Orwell who went to Eton was too.

It doesn't matter how rich you are or where you went to school, what matters is are you on our side or not.

Tony Benn is an example of someone who renounced the right to be called a Viscount and spent his whole life fighting for the rights of working people and the dispossessed. That made him one of us, however privileged he was.

Ok Claig I'm asking about the MANY people mentioned in the article not the same three names you keep trotting out.

Gee whizz claig Benn was never one of you!

Diane James has had to apologise for linking Romanina immigrants with a natural propensity toward crime. You look it up.

Julia Reid has stated that Islam has no place in the UK and needs banning, a retweet of a David Jones tweet.

Gerard Batten has suggest that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered inapplicable.

Stewart Agnew says that women do not have the ambition to get to the top.

Roger Helmer, well really, let's not go there.

Janice Atkinson is a delight. I swear, but not in public and certainly not on the election trail.

Farage doesn't like the idea of Romanians living next door.

Bill and Star Etheridge's delightful facebook picture of them holding golliwogs says it all.

'The people', incidentally,don't agree on everything. So I fail to see how Farage or UKIP can represent 'the people'

'Ok Claig I'm asking about the MANY people mentioned in the article not the same three names you keep trotting out.'

But I have already explained that they were a bunch of insignificant nobodies who tweeted things that the party had no control or idea about, and whom the party then removed.

Whereas Diane James, Louise Bours and Jane Collins are MEPs and some are standing to be MPs. They represent the party, not the nobodies who tweeted.

'Gee whizz claig Benn was never one of you!'

Of course he was because he fought for the people and not the elites. It doesn't mean that I agreed with him on everything, but he still fought for workers' rights and the people.

'Diane James has had to apologise for linking Romanina immigrants with a natural propensity toward crime. You look it up.'

Have you got the quote?

'Julia Reid has stated that Islam has no place in the UK and needs banning, a retweet of a David Jones tweet.'

I don't know who Julia Reed and David Jones are? Wasn't he in the Monkees?

'Gerard Batten has suggest that parts of the Qur'an should be rendered inapplicable.'
Gerard Batten is very good on some things, but I think he is too harsh on some aspects. Not everyone is right all the time, just like Tony Benn wasn't.

'Stewart Agnew says that women do not have the ambition to get to the top.'
So what? That is his opinion and yet many women have got far higher than he has. I don't agree with him and nor do the people of Clacton, but we are not voting UKIP because of what Stewart Agnew says. Who is he? Is he that ex-Tory farmer who is in favour of GM food? I am against GM food too. Not everyone in UKIP knows what they are talking about.

'Roger Helmer, well really, let's not go there.'
An ex-Tory who is in favour of fracking. I don't agree with him. But UKIP is more than Roger Helmer.

'Janice Atkinson is a delight. I swear, but not in public and certainly not on the election trail.'
An ex-Tory who has said some stupid things.

'Farage doesn't like the idea of Romanians living next door.'
Farage, most popular politician in Britain. Shaking the Establishment with just a pint, a cigar and the truth. What he said ws taken out of context. Does he mind if a Romanian doctor lives next to him?

'Bill and Star Etheridge's delightful facebook picture of them holding golliwogs says it all.'
Don't know who they are and nor do the people of Clacton. Not relevant to why we vote UKIP.