What is the matter with people?

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UKIP now have almost 30% of the seats on my local council where there is no overall control, so I guess they will have real influence.

In my ward they won the seat with 41% of the vote.

I live among these people and I have no idea what's going on in their heads or why. Can anyone explain?

Who are all these people - I've never met anyone who admits to being a UKIP voter?

I don't think the chair does his job very well and good on Margaret Curran for effectively pointing it out when she said she was butting in as she had too!

Ha Ha...sorry, I'm still laughing at this line from claig

"Well they won a national election, the first party other than Conservative and Labour to win one for over 100 years"

You've got to admire the true believer who interprets a drop in the overall vote percentage from 26% to 17% as "winning" an election.

I usually find Margaret Curran a bit dour but she was like a breath of fresh air when she butted in last night.

Claig ….. post after post of rollocks, pretending Ukip have all the answers, what is next, they can cure world hunger & STDs, or it that for the THIS page?

The best on the last page (IMO) is pretending this time that Ukip have a better tax regime for ‘the people’, when Ukip proposed a 31p Flat Rate of Tax and National Insurance in their 2010 General Election manifesto – how would paying 31p tax have helped the poor Ukip now apparently represents?

The French Revolution was not just about the people at the top, it was also about a prior 'Great Recession' caused by poor harvests etc for years, making it so easy for those with their own political agendas to stir up the people with promises of a ‘different life (and perpetual harvests, if Farage’s minions had been around) – right before those saying they represented the peoples ‘Reign of Terror’, the people then had to rise up and stop.

Ukip have nothing other than empty EU and immigration promises now, and come 2015, as how many ‘no tuition fee’ type policies will Ukip offer, knowing it won’t matter a rat’s tail - as the main parties would rather a minority government, than allow any Ukip MP’s into the 2015 coalition, that Farage will cause.

UKIP don't have all the answers, but they are asking the right questions.

Cameron is looking for answers and asking the wrong questions, Miliband apparently doesn't even read British newspapers (so we are told) and therefore he is unlikely to find the answers, and as for Cleggy, he seems to make the answers up as he goes along.

New polls are out for Newark.

"The Tories are still on track to win the Newark by-election despite a massive Ukip surge, according to a poll.

Research by Survation for The Sun put the Conservatives on 36% in the constituency, ahead of Nigel Farage's party on 28% and Labour on 27%.

But Tory backing is down by 18 percentage points since the 2010 general election, when disgraced former MP Patrick Mercer secured a 16,000 majority.

Meanwhile, Ukip support has soared by 24 percentage points and Labour has gone up by four.

The findings raise the prospect of a nailbiting last week of the campaign"

www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-s-newark-surge-but-tories-lead-1.395811

The BBC has reported that Cameron has told the top spinners to make 3 appearances in Newark each, and they have been filmed walking around estates knocking on doors and posting leaflets.

I am not sure if this is true, but I could have sworn, I saw Newark residents bolting their front doors, closing their blinds and closing their curtains when they spied the Conservative Spin Machine advancing up their streets. As soon as the UKIP "People's Army" appeared in yellow and purple, blinds and curtains were opened, doors were unbolted and the People's candidates were welcomed with hugs and best wishes for the big day.

claig I take your point about independents not having as much power as a party but I really do see UKIP as part of the establishment.

I understand the appeal of Nigel Farage but I get the same feeling about him I got from Tony Blair.

I don't think Farage is part of the establishment because he wants to take us out of the EU and also he is against the "green crap"

The "inclusive capitalists", the progressives and the great and the good all want to remain in the EU and all promote the "green crap".

Blair huh ..... And how did that work out for the UK, with him getting a 140 seat majority for 'change' from a Conservative government having seen around 26 quarters of conseq GDP growth and paying down our Budget Deficit from the early 1990's western recession?

Blair's got what, 9 properties, that fool is nearly causing the housing shortage on his own - and don't start me on Chilcot.

The Conservatives in 1979 and 2010 have a record of sorting out Labour's mess, whilst Ukip campaign on one policy and a lie - Ukip is the 'mess' on a democratic shoe, and Blair just shows how gullible you and the people were.

Sorry Wannabe ..... I thought I read Claig had compared Farage worship to Blair, I'll take my messy shoe out of my mouth and have some lunch. D'oh.

Apology accepted

Claig .... lets see in September what Farage is 'for', as any populist fool of a politician can be 'against' everything remotely upsetting the people, but needs to be done to rebalance an economy.

The Moonies 'asks questions', it don't mean they are fit for office, never mind government.

Farage has been reported as saying the following

'Now I will destroy the Tory party': In a crowing interview, Nigel Farage reveals he will quit politics... once he's got the UK out of the EU

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638377/Now-I-destroy-Tory-party-In-crowing-interview-Nigel-Farage-reveals-quit-politics-hes-got-UK-EU.html#ixzz33CZ6RBpg

He may have one one pint too many when he said that but I am not sure he can be called establishment.

No problems isitmebut Farage gives me a shiver on ku neck the same place Blair did/does.

I have to disagree with you claig Farage talks a lot but I don't really hear him saying anything. I find him incredibly Machiavellian he's saying the right words but I just don't trust him and I don't think ukip would disband even if we leave the EU.

Claig .... "apology accepted" ha ha ...FYI if I'd put your name on my posted rant I'd have apologized to you, but what the heck, it's a Friday - enjoy my humbling, but don't get used to it.

Wanna .... Re Ukip/Farage won't disband, Frage has had either 5 or 6 attempts at becoming an MP in Westminster and they know the best way to come out of the EU is via a Conservative Referendum to the people, but campaign in a General Election against Conservative MP's - so what does that say about Farage's motives?

United Kingdom Independence Party - that is what is says on the can, but getting seats in Westminster and getting a nice MEP remuneration while trying, is the real content.

funnyossity I am more than aware of who Joey Barton is and what has happened in the past.

And I still find UKIP distasteful and unpleasant.

"more than aware" - jolly good show.

Indeed!