What is the matter with people?

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UKIP now have almost 30% of the seats on my local council where there is no overall control, so I guess they will have real influence.

In my ward they won the seat with 41% of the vote.

I live among these people and I have no idea what's going on in their heads or why. Can anyone explain?

Who are all these people - I've never met anyone who admits to being a UKIP voter?

The capitalists met at Mansion House this week, and Prince Charles, addressed them. All the bankers, all the functionaries and all the flunkeys were there and they were discussing "inclusive capitalism".
This was a sort of progressive, socialist, green capitalism where society is rearranged to "save the planet" and the "environment". It is the combination of capitalism and socialism and Marxism to create a "one world" where the elites control society and the peasants.

I think it will lead to the dream of the elite, the end of the middle class and a return to a kind of green, low-growth, zero-growth serfdom that suits the elite and not the peasants.

And all across Europe, there is a "Peasants' Revolt" as Bullingdon Boris rightly said

"He [Boris] described people voting for anti-EU parties, including Ukip, as taking part in ‘a kind of peasants’ revolt’ or a ‘jacquerie’; an uprising against the French nobility in 1358."

The peasants are in revolt. They are sick of being squeezed and taxed and seeing their money wasted on global schemes of the global elite such as taxpayer money spent on windfarms in Turkey or to Colombian farmers to help with cows' flatulence which the elite tell us is "harming the planet".

Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" and in Brussels, the response to the "Peasants' Revolt" is "let them be squeezed more"

"Brussels ignores anger at EU and demands Britain pays ANOTHER £500million despite damning election results, saying it needs it for Ukraine and youth unemployment"

[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641817/Brussels-ignores-anger-EU-demands-Britain-pays-ANOTHER-500million-despite-damning-election-results.html#ixzz339Fmy7CN]]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641817/Brussels-ignores-anger-EU-demands-Britain-pays-ANOTHER-500million-despite-damning-election-results.html#ixzz339Fmy7CN

Interesting article in the Guardian on the progressive "inclusive capitalism" meeting

"Inclusive Capitalism Initiative is Trojan Horse to quell coming global revolt
Henry Jackson Society's pre-emptive PR offensive seeks to popularise parasitic economic growth for the few"

...

The Henry Jackson Initiative for Inclusive Capitalism is therefore an elite response to the recognition that capitalism in its current form is unsustainable, likely to hit another crisis, and already generating massive popular resistance.

www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/may/28/inclusive-capitalism-trojan-horse-global-revolt-henry-jackson-society-pr-growth

The elite know that the real revolt will be the "Peasants' Revolt" where the people will demand more power, more democracy, more referenda, more proportional representation and fewer puppets.

That is what these Euro elections have shown and that is what UKIP is pointing to.

linerunner I would be far more likely to vote for an independent as I would actually like my mp to be from my area and to go to parliament representing my areas best interests not kowtowing to party lines. I'm just hopeful theirs and independent who has the same interests as me.

Wannabe, that's part of my thinking, too. The party system often 'parachutes in' candidates from elsewhere.

But how much power does an independent really have?
Can they stop the bedoom tax, can they cut taxes, can they achieve a refeerendum on Europe, can they change the way the NHS operates, can they stop the privatisation of the Royal Mail, can they stop HS2, can they stop fracking?

It's a better protest vote than voting ukip.

That ukip MEP on Questiontime last night was woeful.

Missed it, will have to watch it on iplayer. Which Ukipper was it?

The thing about UKIP is that a vote for UKIP is going to change things, it is not an idle protest vote. People want change.

The EU will have to change, Cameron is reeling and will have to change, Cleggy is rocking and is all teary-eyed as his clings on to power. No independent can achieve any of that. As Professor Anthony King said

"Everyone knows how all four parties fared in the European elections. No one knows how any of them will fare in May 2015. Every leader except Nigel Farage has reason to be terrified."

Louise Bours.

Joey Barton was marginally odder, though.

I have heard Louise Bours on BBC Any Questions radio before. She was good. She told it as it is. No spin. She stood up for ordinary people. Don't know how she did last night, but will watch it on iplayer.

Saw this clip of Louise of telling spinner, Piers Morgan, how it is and telling the BBC's proponent of dumbing down, Joey Barton, how it is. They put fools like Barton on to insult the public and people who care about politics. They think that their insults will stop UKIP.

They won't stop Louise Bours, because she is not a spinner. That comes through in everything she says, and the people will see that she represents them and that the spinners don't.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/29/question-time-joey-barton_n_5414546.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Funnily enough, I watched her and thought that she sounded just exactly like another spinner.

As offensive as Joey Barton was, I still find him less offensive than UKIP

I think it is perfectly reasonable to vote for an independent candidate like Martin Lewis or Siobhan Benita. On the other hand if people really are enthusiastic about voting for a party with no workable policies you get more mileage out of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

There was no content to it, claig. I never hear a ukipper speak with any content. It's all gloss about 'ordinary people' and 'common sense' and how Nige got misquoted. Not exactly in depth politics.

Is truth not content?

She was teling the truth. The entire media establishment of spinners told lies about UKIP. Piers Morgan, the fool who insulted the American pubic over handguns and was sent packing by CNN eventually, is now back in Blighty and he is spinning as he was there. Louise put him straight about Farage pointing out how ridiculous it was for British Olympic athletes to have to go to train in France because they can't train here. Piers had no answer, because spin always fails.

Sorry for spelling mistakes. Wireless keyboard running low on batteries.

all she kept saying was that everything said in the press about UKIP was a lie and a conspiracy.

spin, spin, spin. no substance.

Piers had an answer but Louise was shouting over him.

Inclusive Capitalism.
A PR stunt like no other.

Rothschild:
"it is imperative for us to restore faith in capitalism and in free markets."

The business and political elite are terrified of people losing faith in the capitalist system. I would love to have heared exactly what Prince Charles imagines he can do.

When the revolutions kicks off, he will be the first to go!

As for voting for an independent, I'm sorry but an independent will be another politician, won't they.

Politicians need to go. The uprising wil be a people's uprising.

Last night's QT hit a new low with the inclusion of Barton.

WheretheWildings give him and his family a google.

Yes, there was too much shouting over each other on last night's Questiontime. And Louise Bours was the worst, asking questions and not listening to the answers, making bold assertions and not allowing the response to be articulated.

Re Question Time. I think you are hearing what you want yo hear. Louise was competent considering she was being attacked simultaneously by the other panelists, who, like you, we're just prejudiced against her.

Piers was right on Chilcit. Two brains also spoke some sense fir a change

I found TwoBrains to be the soothing sane voice of last night's panel. The UKIP woman was no worse than Piers - who only approaches humanity when referring to his brother in the army ime, hence him sounding sincere on Chilcot.

Yeah, right, I'm prejudiced. Ukip are saints.