Three children found dead

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m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27122410

Very, very sad

You do sound like a wonderful parent R3

Peachy - your posts are so eloquent. What you made me think is this - money can buy a bit more support or some equipment. It can't buy hope - and I suspect that is what finally ran out for this mother.

Joules, I was one of the first to post and said it was the oldest daughter that I felt for the most.

R3, I am sure so many can identify with what you have said, and from the heart too.

Can someone please explain to me what is the purpose of the press publishing a photo of a hairy head, or a head covered in a jacket?

Another mum here with the hospital bag always packed.
R3, a good post. there is just no switching off, even if your child is at school, once the phone rings your first thought is for your child and whether it is bad news.
getting a diagnosis of a life limiting illness for your child is like a bombshell going off in your family. I would equate it with something like PTSD, there is your family life before the diagnosis and a totally different shattered world after. I cannot remember having any conversation with a health professional about my mental health as a result of the diagnosis, the focus was always on the child.

What is important to remember is these children were not expected to die in childhood, they had type2 .

SDTG thank you. Yes you are right it can't buy hope. What it also can't buy with genetics is freedom from guilt. Misplaced but very real guilt.

Also not sure really that a big house or great job signifies freedom from money worries, amazing how much debt and liability people can run up really, and the banking sector is hardly free of difficulty right now. I know I found it harder when I thought DH was going to be made redundant than when he actually was, because at least you can work with reality.

When a genetic flaw in the boys was traced to DH and not me (surprisingly) I realised the amount of pointless, stupid guilt only as it left me. Dh is far more pragmatic and deals with it in a far more simplistic, effective 'life sucks' way.

Now if I knew there were no endpoints to this, that the only way my kids could have a break would be the day I lost them- I have no idea how I would cope. i hope I would, I suspect that nobody truly knows until it is them.

The part that surprises me is that mum didn't end her own life, that doesn't fit with past cases like this, but I haven't read much about this case deliberately.

It surprises me too, that she potentially chose to end her children's life and not her own.

she had injuries so she perhaps tried.....

But was able to stand trial a few days later.

trial?not yet she hasn't.....but its murder they are citing,not manslaughter or anything

It's not the trial yet though, is it?
It's the indictment.

"It surprises me too, that she potentially chose to end her children's life and not her own."

Handcream

It surprises you that someone alleged to have carried out the most incomprehensible of actions in a situation which was filled with stress and difficulty failed to act in accordance with your logic?

I'm struggling with a great deal on this thread but that statement belongs in a special category of the bizarre.

Guilty of not reading the fucking thread, because I guess someone has already asked this: but why did they handcuff her?

I can't even imagen what it would do to your emotional and mental health , knowing your children are going to die

Limited my guess is for her own safety and its protocol for lots of reasons.

I notice she has been remanded in custody in prison not a mental health facility which surprised me a lot

A huge presumption has been made, by me too that she did this because of their life limiting illness in some way.

However unfortunately people do this for a number of reasons

R3 and shakin I just dipped back in the thread and found your posts. I have no words.

Twighlightsparkle You're right. I just picked up the paper and saw the picture and thought it was barbaric. But I suppose it was was for safety reasons. I hope so. I can't imagine that people would be that harsh.

And covering her face - well, why not if there are a hundred photographers outside?

She may have been handcuffed to also prevent her from hurting herself :(

That poor family. I hope this highlights the need, the massive need that people have for more help. No matter where they come from, no matter what money they earn, no matter what class they're in. So many people needing help and not getting it :(

Thank you R3..EMTEE and SHAKIN.

I don't think any of us are in a place to judge this situation.

People go on and on about help. Some Parents I met felt their lives had been invaded...those that got help after battling for years!....tis not always about help/money etc...it is not clear cut...people are different etc.I just want to say thank you again toR3,SHAKIN and EMTEE.I am now opting out of this thread.

It must be tough being invaded and having to deal with people treating your home as their place of work.

Sorry if I've upset you dooby but I'm just talking from personal experience, and I know there isn't enough help available whether people want it or not.

In the cases you speak about, is there really anyway to get past that then? I don't know how we could possibly make their lives feel better if they feel invaded by the help :(