I can't link to the Sky news interview with Nigel Farage but it was terrible

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It was Kay Burley. About 3pm today. She made his case for him just now and I don't even think she meant it. In fact I think she's sure she made a good job of portraying him as a mad racist while talking to him about UKIP's poster suggesting migrant workers were stealing British jobs.

He seemed quite reasonable in the face of Burley. He didn't emerge as racist - protectionist at best - xenophobic at worst. He didn't even grab anyone round the throat or ask them if they'd have given it up a bit more their husband wouldn't have been tempted to murder prostitutes.

Then she went on about a pretty young woman they're featuring as a candidate who is from her appearance, clearly of Anglo-Asian background and demanding why UKIP didn't declare her background. Burley was the one who mentioned pretty. Not me or Farage.

Farage asked why they should and to be fair I had to agree. And also, she's a pretty woman who's used a flattering picture on her literature. Wouldn't you? If you want to know more about her views then read her literature and ask her questions, rather than the party.

Oh criminy. I had to admit that Nigel seemed reasonable. They're heading for a major result in the European elections. In my mad moments I toy with voting UKIP just because I've always lived in Tory constituencies and want to crush them now more than ever.

It could happen here. I won't do it, but the temptation is fucking strong.

I'd think it was a right-wing plot if I didn't know Burley of old and realise it was incompetence.

If you want to know more then read all about it.

Debunking your propaganda isn't talking down to you....if you come on here saying UKIP want to stop all immigration what do you expect.

'In one of his strongest attacks on immigration policy, Ukip leader says country has been "taken over" by foreigners.' -from searching UKIP immigration policy...

We're also controlling immigration by:

*Clamping down on benefits tourism and health tourism - so that we only welcome those who want to work hard and contribute to our society

Cutting non-EU net immigration to its lowest level since 1998 - to ease pressure on the schools and hospitals that all hardworking people rely on

Introducing a new citizen test with British values at its heart*

This is the Tory slant on immigration.

I see you are still focused on that aren't you?

The Tories use the same words although they are aiming it at a different set of people.

to ease pressure on the schools and hospitals that all hardworking people rely on

Can you see it?

Can you?

I really don't like talking to you at all. Claig are you still here?

'Claig are you still here?'

I am back. I don't know what UKIP's benefit policy is. We will have to wait for their manifesto. I am not saying that UKIP are fantastic or good for everyone. They are good for some things and not others.

I support some green policies e.g. no GM foods, and no TTIP trade agreement and I also have my doubts about fracking but haven't looked into that enough.

I don't know UKIP's official policy on all those issues, but I hope that UKIP will adapt and change since they are mainly made up of ordinary people with common sense rather than career politicians, luvvies and cronies.

UKIP are not perfect but for me they are a start and a step in the right direction.

I voted for them for the first time in last year's local elections and it was a big step for me to change my vote. I had never considered voting for them ever before, just like millions of other people hadn't either. But I had eventually passed the "tipping point" and had enough of the professional spinners and career politicians letting the people down. Millions of other people felt the same and oted for UKIP for the first time ever also.

Now UKIP are on a roll. The public have had enough of the spinners. How long it will last, I don't know. But I think the public will not return to the spinners and believe their spin for many years yet.

Isn't it safer to wait till another party decides there should be more referendums than sacrifice relative normalcy regarding all the other policies? Maybe it will spur the other parties on...

Although you seem really nice I can't get to grips with voting UKIP and still think after all this discussion they are vile and a whole host of other things but thank you for taking the time to tell me your thoughts.

eyebrows, your views reflect the views of many people who are worried about UKIP. The media does play up the fears about UKIP in order to "save the cronies" in establishment parties. But there is no doubt that there are some nasty fruitcakes who vote for and are even candidates for some UKIP positions. However, they are not the majority of UKIP members or voters.

But you are right that a lot of people are unsure about UKIP and will not vote for them for that reason.

But on the other hand, many people have had enough of the establishment spinners and want a change.

Today's Sunday Times poll for the EU elections has UKIP in the lead on 31%, Labour on 28% and the Tories on 19%.

It is a huge change from just a few years' ago and reflects the public's discontent with the spinners in what used to be the major parties.

Whatever happens, it looks like there will be change and that is something that most of the public, of all views, wants.

What I find Baffling about Farage is that he really does not go into his policies at all. This: let's wait and see - attitude that emanates both from people that vote or are likely to vote like you claig, and from of all people their party leader is beyond comprehension to me.
The other day Decca Aitkenhead had a full interview with him in the Guardian, like over 3000 words... not willing to talk about what next. At all. WTAFF.
Spinning and wanting a change?
Today there were a couple of quotes from some regional UKIPers. Lenny Henry should just go and emigrate to 'a black country'. It just doesn't stop.
Farage is a privately educated former banker, fully part of the establishment. He is an opportunist. Very dodgy that he does not want to talk what he is going to do.

Voting UKIP Is Not a Protest, It’s an Own Goal

Increased support for UKIP in recent local elections has been interpreted as a protest against the out of touch, carbon copy mainstream parties. For any voter seeking to protest our broken political system, voting UKIP is a huge own goal. UKIP allow the mainstream parties to keep the conversation on immigrants and the EU, and off the major issues of our time.

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/05/04/voting-ukip-is-not-a-protest-its-an-own-goal/

MollyGuacaholly, the major appeal of UKIP to the majority of voters is that they are against all the established parties, so it doesn't currently matter what their detailed policies are. If they spell out their policies, then some of them may turn out to be similar to those of the established parties in which case they will blow their anti-establishment appeal. Also if they releae their policies now, then the establishment parties, rotters that they are, will attack the policies immediately. So at the moment, I think it suits UKIP not to spell out what their policies are, because their voters are voting for them based on them being anti the established parties.

They will have to release their policies nearer the election, but for now they are concentrating on being anti Europe for the EU election so there is no point clouding the issue now.

Also they are probably still working out some of their policies in more detail before they release them later.

UKIP is now in the lead according to the latest poll for the EU election. It has overtaken Labour. We know that Europe and leaving it only comes out as the 7th major issue for most voters, so this lead is not really to do with Europe. It is more to do with the public wanting to send a message about immigration to the establishment, but even that does not explain this amazing lead.

I think the real reason is that the public are using what they consider to be a relatively unimportant election, i.e. the EU election, to send the establishment a message that they are fed up with the establishment parties. The public wants a "political earthquake" because the establishment politicians are not representing the majority of people adequately. The public believes they are "out of touch" and it is not about welfare, it is about spin and this nebulous concept of "political correctness" where all the politicians speak in the same Orwellian newspeak manner and all agree with each other on nearly everything and ignore ordinary people completely. The Westminster bubble is "out of touch" with the sentiments of many ordinary voters now and the public is fed up of it.

Suzanne Moore understands what is going on completely. The politicians are ignoring the majority, they can't even communicate with them. They can spin till the cows come home, they can talk about their "charities" and their "social enterprises" and their "public surveys" and their "think tank briefings" and all the rest, but they never speak to an ordinary member of the public in the street. They never leave their bubble.

The reason the public like Farage is because he is different to all the rest of them, he is the antidote to their anodyne "political correctness". He is real and the public are lapping it up, because all they see are Oxbridge PPEs reading off of pagers and talking in party doublespeak and newspeak.
The divide between the people and the puppets has never been so large and the spin has never been so prevalent.

Here is what Suzanne Moore said.

"Politicans talk about ordinary people, but never to them. Into this vacuum steps the likes of Ukip. The left must take note"

"The difference between the language of a managerial political class and the way that many people speak is huge. Half-hearted visions need to be translated into robotic nonsense such as the "squeezed middle". Phrases have to be invented, as there are not enough words to convey the passions of Cameron or Miliband.

Where there cannot even be a common language, there is no way of expressing common interests. We are linguistically divided.

This is about more than great oratory, it is about a kind of fear. The unmediated voices of ordinary people are a worry for every part of the establishment, including much of the media. They say the wrong things. They are ignorant of what is important. They are over-emotional. They can only appear on Radio 4, for instance, in oddly written dramas or asking experts about pensions. They remain unheard. Even social media serves mainly to amplify the already powerful."

And when Gordon Brown, that great and lofty bigwig, actually spoke to a real lifelong Labour voter, whose father was a shop steward and who used to sing the Red Flag, he called her a "bigoted woman" in private, because he didn't like her views.

These bigwigs, this privileged class of pampered "politically correct" progressives paid for out of the public purse don't like the public's opinions. They don't care about the majority and their opinions because they think the majority is not "politically correct", and now the "great unwashed" have had enough and are voting UKIP to send a message to them.

Hey I thought I was 'the great unwashed'

We are all the "great unwashed" to the bigwigs. We are just a nuisance to them, an obstacle to overcome, to be spun and fooled so that they can win seats and claim expenses and listen to lobbyists.

Obviously not all of the "great unwashed" agree with each other, but what the huge numbers of "great unwashed" who now vote UKIP all agree on is that they have had enough of the establishment politicians who ignore them completely.

UKIP are the establishment. They share the same values. They simply aren't the current establishment.

They a racist, looney, reactionary right-wing populist party.

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Voting UKIP Is Not a Protest, It’s an Own Goal

Increased support for UKIP in recent local elections has been interpreted as a protest against the out of touch, carbon copy mainstream parties. For any voter seeking to protest our broken political system, voting UKIP is a huge own goal. UKIP allow the mainstream parties to keep the conversation on immigrants and the EU, and off the major issues of our time.

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/05/04/voting-ukip-is-not-a-protest-its-an-own-goal/

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You're not protesting anything when you vote for UKIP, except tolerance and a multi-cultural society.

If you want to protest the establishment parties without stabbing yourself in the eye, pick another party. There are many to choose from which aren't petite-fascist.

Suzanne Moore once again

"The difference between the language of a managerial political class and the way that many people speak is huge."

The key word is managerial. They think they can "manage" us, "spin" us, "ignore" us and "mislead" us, just as the LibDems ended up doing over tuition fees when they went back on their promise. They think we are asleep and we won't notice and are too stupid to care. But everyone is awake and even if they aren't aware of all the issues or even if they aren't interested in politics, they have all had enough of being ignored and spun by these "managers". They want some ordinary people for a change, even if some of them are "fruitcakes", because a "fruitcake" won't "manage" them and "spin" them.

Why don't you try thinking for yourself for once, claig? Learn a bit about political and social history.

Stop assimilating and repeating soundbites which you read in the paper which excite your sense of populist justice.

Before you propagandize on behalf of a racist party of lunatics, why don't you investigate who you're propagandizing for?

Why don't you go away and find out a half dozen or so central UKIP on important issues like jobs, welfare, defense, corruption, immigration, etc. etc.

Then come back here and tell us what you love about these policies. Argue the case why they are good policies.

Then people can see for they would really be voting for, aside from a kind of self-declared folksy common-sense anti-establishment party. The label itself means nothing. Many nasty parties throughout history (yes, once again, the Nazis) appealed to people's grievances against 'the establishment'. It doesn't mean anything by itself.

The reason UKIP are picking up more and more votes is because they are becoming more and more popular.

The reasons have been adequately outlined by Claig but the answer to that is still to just carry on voting for the grey suited gravy trainers or some obscure party with no real chance of power.

The 3 main parties at present are without a doubt poorist which is the worst 'ist' there is.

There was always another option for the Tories or indeed Labour and that was to start telling the truth and stop spinning everything.They took the option of still protecting their well established environment of power and people are becoming tired and sick of them.

Referring to UKIP as racist and loonies is just feeding into the already disenfranchised views that people supporting the establishment have only childish retorts and name calling to fall back on.

Farage is an absolute star. Ordinary people want to shake his hand. Why? Because they sense that something is wrong, that they are not represented and that he is like them - ordinary and real - and they want to be represented by realpeople who care about their real concerns. Boris is nowhere near as big a star as Farage, because Boris is an ctor whereas Farage is real. The media boost Boris and call him a star, but they will find out eventually who the real star is and if they are able to understand the public then they will understand why that is.

"After his tour of the town, he [Farage] and his entourage stopped in at The Britannia Inn on Kent Street in Upper Gornal for a swift pint.

Selecting a pint of Bathams, when asked how he was enjoying his drink he said: “The one thing this part of the world is spoilt for is beer.”

First-time voter Brandon Smith, aged 18, made a trip to the pub especially to meet Mr Farage . After grabbing his photo opportunity, Mr Smith said: “I told him he had some sense. I just like his policies.

“It’s my first time in here, but I knew he was coming and wanted to meet him .

“I just think he’s a nice bloke, really friendly and keen.”

www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/04/26/nigel-farage-delivers-his-black-country-blast/

It is amazing how little it takes to win over the public. Just be real, that's all we want.

Good grief.

by drinking a pint and talking to someone for 2 mins. That's not much proof he won't shaft you in a few months time.

Caruthers, you angry angry person, I have explained why we all think they are a nasty party. And mama explained it very well indeed. You are set though, like we are. It is innate. You either have faith in humanity getting better or you punish people for your own misfortune.

eyebrowsstillfurrowed I'm not angry what a strange statement.

There are a substantial amount of people who don't agree with you and you dismiss their reasons.

YOU explaining that 'We' all think isn't cutting the mustard anymore.

'by drinking a pint and talking to someone for 2 mins. That's not much proof he won't shaft you in a few months time.'

You are right. But people vote on instinct and emotion. They make a judgement about whom they trust, who speaks to them honestly and who doesn't patronise and spin them. That is why all the establishment and media's efforts to derail UKIP and "stop the people's party" won't save the cronies, because the people have already made up their mind whom they trust and it is reflected in the opinion polls.

"UKIP leader Nigel Farage is the most popular political leader as well as the only one to have a positive net satisfaction rating, according to a new poll."

www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-most-popular-party-leader-says-poll/5009.article

The Independent has an article "Will nothing sink Farage?" and the answer is no, because whatever the media and establishment try, the people have had enough.