Child taken from womb? Truth into darkness....

[LakeDistrictBabe]

Ok, the old thread is nearly full. If you read the other three, I don't need to re-write everything again ;)

But you know I am referring to the case involving an Italian mother and the British social services.
Opinions welcome.

The rules are John we do not have amusing badinage with you until you answer all the questions you have so, ahem, clumsily swerved.

And even then its very doubtful.

And even then I don't think I could swap chit chat with someone whose stated opinions are so wholly at variance with any reasonable approximation of truth, and indeed, who espouses theories which are damaging to vulnerable people, and who associates himself with a man who advocates sweeping sexual abuse of children under the carpet.

HTH

In fact John, until you actually produce proof of your assertions, I shall personally not be engaging with you.

Do keep posting though. I do like to have a paper trail.

John's been busy today, he's been on the radio talking about something else!

Have we got any further than Yardley MNers aren't allowed to post on this thread?

Lake, here is some background into the feline issue

I think the reference might more sense in this context once you've seen that. Not surpised you were thrown for a loop. Not the sort of thing one can deduce from comments made.

Hi John

Since you clearly have the time tonight do you think you could answer my questions from the previous thread?

1. Do you do any campaign work for justice for families, act as a McKenzie friend, write and maintain your blog, write and maintain justice for families website etc using tax payer's money yes/no

2. Are you doing any of the above in your role of MP (therefore on constituency time/ westminster time) yes/no

3. are views expressed by you on the internet reflective of the views of the liberal democrat party yes/no

4. Have you had a personal experience relating to your own family life of children's social care services yes/no

Ah. It all makes sense now.

As a Yardley constituent I would like to know the answer to WestmorlandSausage's question - if I'm allowed to ask...

Have we got any further than Yardley MNers aren't allowed to post on this thread?

As I understand it, not constituent MNetters can post questions and then get told to "I intend to evade answering uncomfortable questions". Or blog links. Some of which are actually connected to the discussion in hand. And put forward opinion that proves John is the rightest right person who ever lived on the planet Right.

Whereas MNetters who are his constituents have to email or go through constituency channels to ask him questions.

What happens when they do that is as yet as unknown.

But I'd leave room for the possibility that it's just a longer route to extracting the same "high quality" responses that the rest of us get.

In answer to WestmorelandSausages's various questions.

For example a constituent came to me and asked me to raise with the CCRC the issue of an individual who had been imprisoned for a criminal offence where some evidence had not been provided to the jury.

He attended my taxpayer funded office and talked to me and I used tax payer funded paper to write to the CCRC.

Today after a hearing in the Court of Appeal the individual was released after 17 years of a sentence for a crime he did not commit.

It that constituency work?

@Carpe bwahahahahahaha his wife stole his lover's kitten? XD Not surprised anymore he is into weird conspiracies then! Everything is clear now. Thanks for enlightening Carpe

John Hemming thinks repeating an assertion over and over again constitutes proof. So there's not much point asking him for proof, really, it just gets tedious not receiving it.

@johnhemming

As far as I know, people are free to write to Procurator Fiscals and Judges in person, adding the missing evidence.

Is that an admission that you actually helped someone to evade jail using taxpayers money? Always worse!

thats not what I asked. I asked specifically in relation to your work regarding justice for families and other work you undertake around supporting families in contact with social services.

Your above example is constituency work - however I highly doubt you writing a letter influenced the outcome of a criminal case.

Actually it was my daughter's kitten.

However, while we're repeating questions, perhaps Mr Hemming could tell us precisely how much money councils get or have got in the past per adoption? And how that compares with the costs of dealing with a contested adoption, including all foster care costs and the costs of social worker time?

god, I am so going to regret this.

Why was your daughter's kitten at your mistress's house?

Actually don't answer that. Answer the really important questions.

I can send the PSA figures to an email address. Spero seems to have disappeared and I don't have an email address to send them to otherwise.

I think I gave a link to Hammersmith's Half a million figure.

Why was your daughter's kitten at your mistress's house?
Keep up at the back.

She lived then and still lives with her mother.

Proof positive that JH does not actually read the thread.

We all know where she is. Why don't you?

That is my daughter not the kitten.

are views expressed by you on the internet reflective of the views of the liberal democrat party yes/no

There may be the tiniest hint to help answer that here....

from John Hemming's wiki

Following Charles Kennedy's announcement that he would resign as leader of the Liberal Democrats, Hemming announced on his weblog that he was taking soundings as to whether to stand. When Kennedy subsequently resigned, Hemming said that he would stand to ensure there was a contest. Hemming was a rank outsider in the contest (some betting odds were in excess of 400–1) . The Times reported that he was "an eccentric who left colleagues aghast by threatening to stand". On 13 January 2006, Hemming withdrew his candidature, saying that Lib Dem members did not believe he should stand. He was a nominator for Mark Oaten, but said he would be willing to do the same for any serious candidate. He subsequently declared for the eventual winner, Sir Menzies Campbell.

Can we have MadameDefarge's last question as our next thread title?

Please.

I remember my Mum showing me CatGate articles and me going "oh my bloody fuck, but that's our JH, of MN and SS fame!"

You could PM me with the figures and details of the source you derive them from. The Hammersmith figures do not answer the question I put.

Spero's just out for the evening, she hasn't disappeared. By the way, we're all still waiting for your answers to the questions you invited her to put at the end of the last thread.