Oscar Pistorious Pt3

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Hope no one else has started this.

That said, I do feel a great deal of pity for OP's family too. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes right now - they face losing him too. And I wonder, in their heart of hearts, whether they believe his story.

I don't puffpants I guess that's all subjective depending on the individuals.

^ that's was to your post about result of trial sorry!

I don't think you can increase the suffering of losing a child.

Yes - it does seem strange that OP would throw away his life (metaphorically) in a fit of rage.

But that's what people do, isn't it? Comparatively few people plot & plan a murder, weighing up risks etc. The vast majority of murders happen in the heat of the moment - and a bus driver has as much to lose, relatively speaking, as a wealthy, lauded sportsman does. You're still "throwing your life away" in what you're risking.

So, actually, OP is no less likely to behave in this way than any person killing their partner in a sudden, blind rage - and we all know that this does happen, famous or not. OJ Simpson had god like status in the US and it didn't stop him slaughtering two innocent people.

*Yes, I know he was found not guilty, but I'll stick my neck out and say that I'm pretty bloody certain he was as guilty as sin.

It's so unbearably sad for her family. In either scenario she died in a sudden and violent way at the hands of someone she loved and trusted.

Not the same, but I feel sorry for his family too. Six months ago they must have been bursting with pride at his achievements.

Has any one seen this article?

Pistorious wants to contact Steenkamp family

This quote in particular is actually quite shocking.

"We don't want to put him under pressure but while we were in the car, that is what he said," Arnold told the eNews Channel Africa (eNCA). "The family of Reeva is in his mind all the time and he knows his purpose would be to be part of the family in future."" (my bold)

Yes, I'm sure speaking to the man who killed their daughter will really help them. I'm sure they will ever so grateful he wants to "reach out to them" and be "part of their family".

what the fuck does he think he can say, that they are going to want to hear???!

I keep typing things and deleting them because words have actually failed me. It's such an appalling thing to say.

Yy, my post in my head was riddled with expletives. What a cunt. The Steenkamp family are very dignified un the face of this

Well I think the fact that the Steenkamp's family said that the flowers sent by the Pistorius family meant nothing as they were not to blame along with saying they were disappointed that the Pistorius' s had not contacted them until yesterday, lends itself to perhaps them expecting there to have been attempted contact way before now.

In the last thread people were criticising OP for not having made an apology.

Now he is being criticised for wanting to talk to the Steenkamps.

His uncle seems to be very "in control" of the whole situation and quite overbearing. It does seem like he is trying to force the Steenkamp's to make some sort of public acknowledgement/acceptance of OP's defence. That in itself is very unsympathetic as they are dealing with their own emotions. They shouldn't be made to deal with Pistorius's as well.

They must feel very confused about everything on top of their grief. They just want the truth. I don't know whether they will ever truly get that.

Big-money bids are said to be coming in for his story. "Everybody wants to interview him," van Zyl added. "We're not going to do any interviews at this time. We'll sit down with the lawyers and make a decision."

^ I thought that was more disgusting .

Surely you would only be thinking about the trial and it would be crass to ever sell a story about that night regardless of the money or where it would go!

"Now he is being criticised for wanting to talk to the Steenkamps"

Excuse me, wanting to be "part of the family" is going a bit further than that. Outrageous.

That is odd without a doubt.

I am not defending him. I'm on the fence.

hollywoodlife.com/2013/02/15/oscar-pistorius-tweets-girlfriend-murder/

Just in case you doubted that OP was paranoid about intruders, there were a couple of incidences when he thought there was an intruder in the house. One time it was his washing machine.

wiley which part of that article makes you believe that they're "trying to force the Steenkamp's to make some sort of public acknowledgement/acceptance of OP's defence"?

I interpreted the comment about the flowers as being an empty gesture that meant nothing.

I haven't read anything from the Steenkamps which indicates they would like him or his family to contact them. I think they have been very dignified considering the absolute hell they are going through, and under the media spotlight to boot.

I can't imagine there are any circumstances under which they would want to speak to him and how they thought it was a good idea to publicise this I have no idea.

By saying things like they are grieving "with Reeva's family" and that his purpose would to be "part of the family in the future".

The first thing the press did was ask the Steenkamps about contact/forgiveness in the future.

They will now be pressed on the "part of family" quote.

Quote from Reeva Steenkamps father saying if things happened like OP said they could one day forgive him will be passed about by OP's PR firm who are now handling all press.

^ that was to cleo

There was a quote somewhere saying that the Steenkamps felt contact had come too late from the Pistorius'. Although I don't know whether that had been put into a particular context by a newspaper (may have been one of the African ones) to make it appear in that way as much if the information has been.

I wonder if that article/quote has been mis-transcribed. Surely he meant that OP would have expected to be part of their family, IF things had turned out differently. Not now.

I think Reeva Steenkamp's family have been amazingly dignified throughout.

I found it incredibly moving when her father said "there is no hatred in our hearts" and that OP "must be going through things we don't know about it".

Yes they have Armchair (great choice of name by the way). I don't know if admire is the right word under such circumstances but they sound like gracious, compassionate people.

wiley

"The family of Reeva is in his mind all the time and he knows his purpose would be to be part of the family in future."

Is anyone surprised that her family are uppermost in his mind? And there's a possibility that the 'be part of the family' could just be a misuse of English (which I don't believe is their first language) - ie he could mean to 'visit/interact/contact' the family.

It is not clear whether the Steenkamp family, who cremated their daughter last week, are ready for such a gesture. - understandably - they're in mourning.

'contact has come too late'? (source unknown) how on earth has he supposed to have made contact up to now?

I don't see how it could be misinterpretedPuffPants. Perhaps those weren't the exact words used by OP but the quote comes directly from his Uncle.

At the very least it is incredibly crass and insensitive.

Wiley the sad thing is, wrt to your second to last post, you're probably right. It will all be about presenting OP in the best possible light.

Well I had to name change for the thread really. I do find this case fascinating from a legal perspective though I feel a bit guilty saying that.