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Exposure, newsnight ect Part 3

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AnyaKnowIt · 06/12/2012 12:57

Other thread getting full

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swallowedAfly · 12/01/2013 20:58

there is a police officer on mn isn't there? i've forgotten her name but have seen her give useful advice to women on here before.

Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 21:06

Is she Vicar something?

swallowedAfly · 12/01/2013 21:22

yes! maybe vicarintutu or something like that?

swallowedAfly · 12/01/2013 21:25

just did a search - that is her name. wonder if she'd mind a pm

Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 21:50

Look at the cover of the express tomorrow.

www.politicshome.com/uk/article/69648/sunday_express_saturday_12th_january_2013.html

swallowedAfly · 12/01/2013 22:03

postimage.org/image/52yxlruoz/ someone has shared the notes now with them turned the right way round Sad hard reading.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/01/2013 22:09

Whats that Swallowed?

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Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 22:21

I couldnt believe the lists.

I have just tried to find MMs response to an incorrect blog about her story. It explains from start to finish how she has the paperwork and why she has put it online. I'll go back and have another look. She is one very brave lady.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/01/2013 22:22

Lists?

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Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 22:25

Scroll past the trust the police for now bit and read the response underneath from MM. It clears up all the crap being speculated about. she is one angry but very determined woman.

legalaidcuts.blogspot.co.uk/

Hope the link works

Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 22:27

The paperwork is the original notes with the lists of who visited Elm Guest house. It has been posted online.

The names on it are mostly those named on thread 4 that was deleted but its still a bit of a shock seeing them in black and white.

Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 22:30

This is the best blog that explains all the links between these people without anything dodgy on it, especially for sinistersalGrin

theneedleblog.wordpress.com/

ILoveOnionRings · 12/01/2013 22:39

I am here too (as well as trying to catch up on the DI site -which incidently was down for the last hour)

I also don't believe for one nansecond he acted alone - how can an investigation involving 600 claims be conducted in 3months - if he is responsible for 450 of the claims who is investigating the other 150 - it is utter rubbish!!!!

What has happened is what I believed would happen in the beginning - a quick investigation, no one else involved - lets keep the public happy that something as done and boxes were ticked. It is utter tripe

Mrcrumpswife · 12/01/2013 22:42

At least with the Sunday Express going with the satanic ring it now makes it mainstream. Maybe more people will sit up and start asking questions about how he got away with it and who facilitated his protection.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/01/2013 23:29

Looks like Savile is on a few of the front pages tomorrow.

The daily star are saying 7 more 'stars' will be arrested.

Thank for that link MrCrumps Making my way through it now.

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Lockedout434 · 13/01/2013 02:00

Crikey never expected that.
Fwww.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.
The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrifi ed victim in a candle-lit basement.
He also chanted ?Hail Satan? in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ?s 54-year reign of terror.
Savile, who died aged 84 in October 2011, is now Britain?s worst sex offender after police revealed he preyed on at least 450 victims aged eight to 47.
The girl kept her torment hidden for nearly 20 years before finally opening up to therapist Valerie Sinason.
Dr Sinason told the Sunday Express she first spoke to the victim in 1992. ?She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular visitor.
?She recalled being led into a room that was filled with candles on the lowest level of the hospital, somewhere that was not regularly used by staff. Several adults were there, including Jimmy Savile who, like the others, was wearing a robe and a mask.
?She recognised him because of his distinctive voice and the fact that his blond hair was protruding from the side of the mask. He was not the leader but he was seen as important because of his fame.
?She was molested, raped and beaten and heard words that sounded like ?Ave Satanas?, a Latin­ised version of ?Hail Satan?, being chanted. There was no mention of any other child being there and she cannot remember how long the attack lasted but she was left extremely frightened and shaken.?
Savile was a volunteer porter and fundraiser at the hospital between 1965 and 1988 and had his own quarters there.
Five years after the hospital attack, he abused a second victim during another black mass ceremony held at a house in a wealthy London street.
The woman was 21 at the time and was made to attend an orgy, which later took on a darker twist.
Dr Sinason, director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies in London, said: ?A second victim approached me in 1993. She said she had been ?lent out? as a supposedly consenting prostituted woman at a party in a London house in 1980.
?The first part of the evening started off with an orgy but half-way through some of the participants left.
?Along with other young women, the victim was shepherded to wait in another room before being brought back to find Savile in a master of ceremonies kind of role with a group wearing robes and masks. She too heard Latin chanting and instantly recognised satanist regalia. Although the girl was a young adult, who was above the age of consent, she had suffered a history of sexual abuse and was extremely vulnerable.?
Both victims contacted Dr Sinason, who is president of the Institute of Psychotherapy and Disability, while she was involved in a Department of Health-funded study into sexual abuse committed during rituals and religious ceremonies. She said: ?Both these witnesses did speak to police at the time but were vulnerable witnesses and on encountering any surprise or shock did not dare to give all the details.?
The police took no action.
She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular visitor
Dr Sinason
Dr Sinason added: ?Savile was still a huge celebrity in the early Nineties, let?s not forget, and there was never any action taken against him or any of the others involved.
?Neither girl knew one another, they lived in different parts of the country and contacted me a year apart yet their experiences are very similar. Whether Savile was a practising Satanist or merely enjoyed dressing up to scare his victims even more will perhaps never be known but he left those two girls mentally scarred.?
Dr Sinason has passed details of the abuse to officers from the Savile inquiry, Operation Yewtree.
A joint report published on ­Friday by the Metropolitan Police and the NSPCC uncovered at least 30 claims of abuse at Stoke Mandeville.
The hospital said it was unable to discuss individual cases while its own ?Speaking Out? investigation was ongoing.
Anne Eden, chief executive of Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust, said: ?As the investigation?s name suggests, it is very keen to hear from anybody with any knowledge that they feel could help its work or anybody that needs support because of Jimmy Savile?s alleged behaviour.?

swallowedAfly · 13/01/2013 08:05

i am so glad something has hit the mainstream media at last - and that this is coming through with a therapist/expert/professional as the conduit. also that the two victims didn't know each other, reported separately and collaborated each others stories with a gap of time between - that lends some credibility along with the fact that this was pre the media scandal.

this could be a watershed moment? fingers crossed.

i also really hope the public start asking questions about the honours system - there are so very many dodgy individuals who get 'honoured' by the queen. would like to see articles on that in the msm.

AnyaKnowIt · 13/01/2013 10:02

satanic or mason?

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Mrcrumpswife · 13/01/2013 10:29

Dont satanic and mason go hand in handWink

AnyaKnowIt · 13/01/2013 11:55

satanic easier to discredit

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Mrcrumpswife · 13/01/2013 12:32

Unfortunately you are right.

Our wonderful Prince doesnt seem to learn any lessons in what company he keeps does he?

www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/13/283232/prince/

AnyaKnowIt · 13/01/2013 12:35

www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2013/01/12/local-savile-abuse-victim-is-one-of-200-%E2%80%93-official-report/

Report from Guernsey press

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Mrcrumpswife · 13/01/2013 12:39

The telegraph are finally asking the right questions.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9797464/Did-Jimmy-Savile-fix-his-interrogation.html

I'm not surprised Guernsey is involved. It still seems as though the mainstream media are avoiding HDLG and going at it with the full force it deserves.

AnyaKnowIt · 13/01/2013 12:44

it has been on the news over here

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hackmum · 13/01/2013 14:12

Mrcrumpswife - interesting Telegraph story. Even in his autobiography Savile had that line about the local police not prosecuting him about sleeping with an underage girl, because if he went down, he would take the whole station with him. He was very well-connected, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he knew senior police officers who were also involved in paedophilic activities.

About the Express story - Valerie Sinason was widely denounced in the press after the failure of the last Satanic ring investigation to find anything untoward, so she is not likely to be believed this time. (Have no opinion myself on whether what she says is true or not.)