Exposure, newsnight ect Part 3

[AnyaKnowIt]

Other thread getting full

[OhBuggerandArse]

A Chat thread on here, MrsJR?

[noddyholder]

I bet christine and neil hamilton are loving this? What was it he said about them? 'No smoke without fire' and 'all publicity good publicity' Hope he is eating his words

[MrsjREwing]

yes

[nameswinger1]

Yes Christine has tweeted gleefully regarding MC's previous comments about her and 'hubs'. You really can't blame her.

[MrsjREwing]

DIF say there was a secret court hearing yesterday.

[AnyaKnowIt]

Pollard inquiry due week of 17th Dec

www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/06/jimmy-savile-bbc-pollard-report?CMP=twt_fd

[AnyaKnowIt]

more news on the NHS

[Mrcrumpswife]

what more can i say

[AnyaKnowIt]

He has been bailed

[MrsjREwing]

BBC just showed a quick glance of Max's statement.

[Mrcrumpswife]

This is getting seriously weird now. Why would a nurse commit suicide because she put a call through to another nurse who then gave out medical details.

Surely the Royals have a strict security protocol when any of them are admitted to hospital. I really dont buy into all of this rubbish that they were duped by a radio station Something else must be going on. Newspapers and journalists must have been pulling that stunt since the telephone was invented.

Max Clifford could have quite easily rushed through a Super injunction like others have but has chosen to face the public. I'm beginning to think he is being sent a warning shot to make sure he shuts his mouth. He isnt too big in the picture to be destroyed, thats already happened with the accusation made public. No one will want to be associated with him.

Kate left hospital looking terrible which is understandable but 6 days ago she was playing hockey in high heels looking the picture of health.

As for the secret hearing for a certain person, i also saw that. Does being wealthy and powerful give you instant access to court when and if its needed.

We are living in one crazy country or the world has gone mad.

I feel so sad for the family of the lady that allegedly committed suicide

[MrsjREwing]

I too feel very sad about the nurse, only she knows, poor soul.

[Lockedout434]

That poor conscientious nurse she was probably mortified . All those fuckers who called for her head have never been responsible for anything . It drives me loopy that poor women paid a pittance with huge resposability gets castigated by some gormlass twat who has never had an iota worths responsibility. Who sits behind a pen and and a English degree and pontificates about something they know fuck all about but causes mayhem. Arrrrg

[Lockedout434]

Do you know why she committed suicide because she cared about her job. She cared about her patients, she cares about her reputation. She was a caring person who was vunerable. Whose job was her life and her self being. She wasn't a callous cunt who could write shit about someone and not realise it affected people.
I am so so angry that fuckers on this site slagged her off, I am so angry that a person who cared could be so vilified for a mistake. Women turning on women. Men victimising a fucking simple mistake.

[swallowedAfly]

i've missed all this about a nurse - going completely over my head.

[sashh]

Lockedout434

Private hospitals do not pay a pittance, my sallary doubled for the same grade, doing the same job as in the NHS.

I don't think anyone villified her, I, and others pointed out the breach of patient confidentiality by the other nurse. I don't think anyone had a go at this nurse for putting the call through.

Swallowed
The nurse who anwered the phone on the prank call and put it through to the ward has been found dead. There is speculation that it is suicide. And it does seem likley.

[Lockedout434]

Sorry for ranting. Its just touched a nerve.
Wrong place, wrong thread.

[Lockedout434]

m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-20179838
Stephen Dickson
He got 5 years

[Lockedout434]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244562/Paedophile-took-12-year-old-schoolgirl-dogging-site-raped-man.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Absolutely vile

[Lockedout434]

Here is something from the cps re Cyril smith
crimeandjustice.co.uk/2012/12/07/cps-make-public-police-referrals-of-cyril-smith/

Why wasn't that followed up and was he protected for so long.0

[Mrcrumpswife]

The more i read, the more i feel sick to the pit of my stomach. The amount of child abuse going on is astounding, the lack of intention to prosecute is pitiful and to top it off the sentencing is woefully pathetic.

Its almost as though paedophiles have been given a green light to offend again and again.

The Cyril Smith case has thrown up allegations of bribery, I should be horrified, yet this doesnt surprise me anymore. It seems that nearly everyone in power has a price and the protection of children falls far short of warranting any form of moral obligation to put them first

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20645148

The sooner Leah McGrath Goodman gets her feet on Jersey soil the better. Nobody here is going to blow this whole corrupt system wide open because so many of them appear to be a part of it or have a vested interest in sweeping it all under the carpet.

Mumsnet as a site should be campaigning against closed family courts. If you are having your children removed then all sides must be heard instead of this ridiculous system where reports can be submitted without those writing them having ever met the parents or children involved. WTF are our courts thinking You would never get away with this crap in any other aspect of the law. Can you imagine a mass murderer having his mental health being assessed by someone who has never met him yet childrens lives are being determined by a system that does exactly that.

So many issues have been thrown up since JS regarding child protection in this country its overwhelming.

lockedout 5 years for that piece of shit, i'd have given him life without parole in a non segregated part of the prison with a whopper tatoo accross his forehead stating what he has done.

[Mrcrumpswife]

Oh and whilst i'm ranting lets not forget the charities that take millions upon millions from kind hearted people yet charge local authorities to use their services and then fail to answer the phone to half of the children calling. WTF are they doing with the money donated. Someones getting rich or mismanaging finances on an epic scale

[swallowedAfly]

it's remarkable isn't it? the judge acknowledges the ruin of people's lives, acknowledges the deliberate targeting of the vulnerable and the progressive nature of the crimes and then gives the minimum sentence.

if targeting and raping vulnerable children and actually making a judge quite disgusted only equals a five year sentence what are they really saying? they are saying very clearly that it's bad but not that bad. that women and girls are for fucking after all so.... it's not like killing or beating someone or anything... just sort of fucking in the wrong way. judges and much of the public will not accept that this is violent, horrific offending. they think it's 'sex' gone a bit awry.

we desperately need a massive injection of female judges - and not just the ones who are willing to bend over and play handmaiden.

[swallowedAfly]

why do they not understand this is basically pretty much the WORST crime and that being a danger to vulnerable girls and women is the MOST viable reason for locking people away for a very long time? basically there is no other conclusion than they don't think women and girls are that important

[swallowedAfly]

mrc i think people are massive naive as to what the term 'charity' means in a corporate sense now. in legal and tax terms it really isn't what most people think.