Exposure, newsnight etc discussion part 2

[MrsjREwing]

Last thread full.

Steve has released a statement responding to Lord McAlpines statement.

That's horrific, truely vile depraved happenings. And a token one or two people have been jailed.
Sir Ronald Waterhouse, he was the person who newsnight superimposed on the window of the childrens home.

I think Lord MacAlpine has been appallingly treated. I hope he sues whoever he can and gets maximum damages. Imagine being falsely accused of such a terrible crime like that.

I find it interesting that there has been a denial and apology before the new investigation gets underway to be honest.

The truth will come out one day as it did with Hillsborough.

The Waterhouse inquiry was a strange one.

Its strange how he has waited all these years to sue when the allegations against him were made 17 years ago and he was the one who made his name public not the BBC or SM.

Speculation is one thing but to be the one to out yourself officially surely means you have confirmed the allegation is about you without anyone else knowing 100%.

No one could see what was on Phillip Schofields bit of paper or i can guarentee loads of sites would have enhanced the pic by now and listed the names. Not one has which says it all.

What a very sad sad business this is. No wonder Jimmy Savile got away with what he did. Something horrible going on here. Not quite sure what.

It is very rarely worth suing for defamation as you just draw attention to the libel and give a platform to the accuser. It also can cost a lot of money you never recoup. Load of people who are defamed every day don't sue. Apparently the police told SM the man on the photo which is now destroyed was LM. So not SM's fault for assuming the police were giving the right name. There is no way SM could know as a young boy what the names of the various men were other than those running the care homes.

LM had no alternative as his name was so readily available on line. I found it in about 2 minutes of searching.

LM has no interest in children. Nor does his brother who in fact was pretty keen on women. That does not mean there were not a lot of men at those parties engaging in illegal acts with under age boys and most importantly we need to ensure this does not continue to happen in any context, in a child's own home and elsewhere and ensure children have a route to have it dealt with and stopped.

Allegations were made against him a lot longer than 17 years ago.

Show us then? Most men who are sexually interested in children are like that always from a very young age, probably born like that and right through their lives and wherever they go and whatever they do that follows them. LM is married (and I am not saying you cannot be married and do these things though) and I just have not really seen that evidence. Anyway it is said it was another aide not him.

The main issue is was there a cover up and even more important in my view is how to stop these things happening again. I do feel the Government's new aim of taking more children into care just announced is a huge mistake. If you go into care you are more likely to end up in prison than at university in the UK. In many cases a not quite good birth fmaily is a better option.

Can't show you Xenia. Jillings was never published and that concluded in 1996.

We had word of mouth back then.

I believe that the inquiry should have free rein to investigate and publish so that innocence can be proven or punishment take place. I have no idea of the guilt or otherwise of the names I've heard but those names are well known locally and I'd be keen to get my name cleared if I was one of them.

I'd like to think that Waterhouse found the culprits but let's find out once and for all and stop speculation from both sides.

LM has no interest in children. Nor does his brother who in fact was pretty keen on women.

Thats an odd thing to say about anyone unless you live with them

Channel 4 announced that Mark Humphreys was also shown a photo which he identified as being his abuser and was told it was Mcalpine

I hope they identify who gave them the name

Mark has since commited suicide.

www.independent.co.uk/news/libel-case-witness-found-hanged-1571222.html

Heres the link to the channel 4 piece

www.channel4.com/news/bbc-dg-newsnight-film-should-have-never-gone-out

DG entwhistle is gone

DG entwhistle is gone

Hmmmm patten is saying shoddy journalism, reforms and changes required. He was overwhelmed Tom daily he taking over

Who is his replacement. Does anyone know anything about it.
Entwhistle had 23 years with bbc. Poor sod

I feel sorry for him.

Tom Davy now I can't hear his name properly.
Entwhistle must be gutted.
All those years and he got his dream job and it blew up in his face.

Me too. What a nightmare to be thrown into.

He comes from Pepsi apprently not a journo but has had some years in the bbc.

Entwistle claimed that he had no idea hat the Saville programme was about because, when warned it might fuck up the planned tribute shows, he didn't ask!..
And he claimed he had no idea about the content of the Lord MacAlpine Newsnight show until after it aired

So this man - a journalist - had no idea that Newsnight was going to name/implicate a Tory grandee. No one within his organisation told him and he had no idea. Even though it was all over twitter for the whole of the prior to broadcast.

He is either lying or deeply, deeply incompetent.
I have no sympathy.

I feel sorry for him. Mark Thompson left, then the Savile thing was revealed, and now this. He seems to have drawn the short straw in a way. But his interview with John Humphries this morning was an absolute disaster and he seemed unaware of what was going on, so however nice a guy he might be, it was ineviatble that he had to go. Otherwise the BBC would have looked like something out of a Peter Sellers Inspector Clouseau movie.

www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/02_february/28/davie.shtml

And this show followed his appearance before the select committee explaining how awfully Newsnight had fucked up over the Saville programme and assuring them that he was taking control of the situation....

Tom davie got him at last