Exposure, newsnight etc discussion part 2

[MrsjREwing]

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Steve has released a statement responding to Lord McAlpines statement.

I dont think Mark Williams Thomas would make any statement like that on Twitter unless he was 100% sure of facts after the McA thing. His arse would be hauled over so fast if he was wrong, his feet wouldnt touch the ground.

It does make you wonder why the mainstream media havent reported it. Why wait until the day the Leveson report came out for anyone to get the info out there. Maybe they wanted to bury the story?

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Breaking : Rolf Harris currently being interviewed under caution at police station as part of #Savile other #sexual offences
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MWT is happily tweeting away today and doesnt appear to have been threatened with legal action for libel.

Using names tends to get threads deleted.

Jux only if the info hasnt been released. MWT is in the thick of it and i dont believe for one minute he would release info without having the go ahead from higher powers. Just because the media are not reporting it doesnt mean it hasnt happened. If we have learnt anything over the last 2 months it is that the main problem with the media in this country is they pick and chose what they want to tell us and get clamped down by super injunctions and D notices when it suits those with money.

Not saying thats whats happened with RH but no one in the public eye would risk outing misinformation like that if they were not 100% sure especially when it trended on twitter so fast.

Cyril Smith certainly wasnt worried who could catch him out, makes you wonder why he had no fear. Its almost as though they all knew they would never be prosecuted.

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/30/cyril-smith-teenager-houses-parliament

the 'yet to hear anything from the force' is starting to sound familiar isn't it? people come forward with harrowing stories after years of holding their tongue and god only knows how much build up to making the call and the police can't even be bothered to get back to them. people will be reliving it all and super stressed and not even getting a police liason officer out to see them.

news.sky.com/story/1018923/ex-bbc-radio-presenter-denies-sex-offences

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/uk-detectives-investigating-jimmy-savile-child-sex-abuse-scandal-question-aussie-legend/story-e6frf7jo-1226527809999

Australian paper reports.

Hmm, I do wonder why he hasn't been named

I hope he hasnt done anything wrong

I'm beginning to wonder if its mothers that potentially damage their sons when you look at Savile and Cyril Smiths relationships with theirs.

Read this about RH. I had to wiki what oedipal bathing was as i hadnt heard of it before

I cant work out if its referred to as being sinister in the article or normal

Someone will have to explain it to me!

www.independent.co.uk/voices/columnists/rebecca-tyrrel/rebecca-tyrrel-rolf-harris-childhood-was-a-tiny-bit-surreal-waltons-7544006.html

Off to have a read now

Oedipal bathing

Very, very strange!

That article has put his age as 82

Just read another article that says he was 10ish when his mother started doing it

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241125/Paedophile-said-seven-year-old-girl-seduced-finally-jailed-weeks-judge-set-free.html

Fucking amazing 8 months.

What on earth are these judges thinking. There isnt any deterrent in this country when all you get is a slap on the wrist.

Ex Coronation street star now charged.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241313/Coronation-Street-star-Andrew-Lancel-charged-counts-sexually-abusing-child.html

utter madness. a man claims a 7yo forced herself upon him ergo denying all responsibility and it was thought suitable to go with an outpatient treatment programme rather than a prison sentence.

It astounds me how anyone would stand up and defend a person like this in court.

Its about time Judges had all of the sentences they hand out listed annually so that any patterns of sympathetic/poor sentencing can be easily identified by the public.

Teachers are constantly critisised and assessed to see if they are worthy of the job yet judges do what they want and rarely seem to be held to account.

That poor little girl and her family

i would have thought leniency was only appropriate where a criminal took full responsibility for their crime and showed an ability and willingness to engage with rehabilitation services in the community. without that they might as well have a sign on their head saying of course i'll bloody do it again because i don't think i've done anything wrong anyway and i have no intention of changing.

agree with the lists - even if they weren't made available to the public but a representative committee. or does this happen already? there must be surely some way that they audit for consistency? judgements can't be on a russian roulette of what judge you get. there needs to be flexibility but any other institution, such as education, works to ensure there are appropriate levels of national and local consistency in service and standards.

So a adult couldn't refuse when a 7 year old came onto him!!!!!

He should be fucking shot!

The lenient sentence imposed by Judge Gillian Matthews QC sparked fury among child protection charities who branded it ?despicable?.

Another judge to add to the huge list of the clueless

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-scandal-four-nhs-1462480

By Andrew Gregory | 29 Nov 2012 00:00
Health chiefs were ­criticised yesterday over the delay in beginning four NHS hospital probes into the Jimmy Savile scandal.

The NHS promised inquiries into the star?s alleged abuse of patients at three hospitals - Stoke Mandeville, Leeds General and Broadmoor.

A fourth internal probe will look into how Savile was appointed to a Broadmoor taskforce.

But two months after allegations of horrific sexual abuse in the NHS first emerged, the Mirror can reveal none of the official probes have started.

The DoH last night admitted it was still preparing for the inquiries, which could only begin once they have agreed plans with the police and local safeguarding boards.

But critics hit out at the astonishing delay and said the DoH?s explanation ?lacks credibility?.

Peter Walsh, chief executive of charity Action against Medical Accidents, told the Mirror: ?We find it surprising that - given the NHS is a public body - it is not urgently taking action. It?s wrong.

?They are using the excuse of a police investigation and this lacks credibility. The police are investigating completely different issues to those the NHS should be looking at.

Does this mean that the key players have risen to the top then and are delaying things
Or are they just shredding away?

Shredding is my guess.

maybe someone at the top is near deaths door and they're waiting for them to pop off so they can't be scapegoated with the whole thing.

can not can't!

that was an awful sentence. i'll try again:

maybe someone at the top is close to death so they're waiting for them to die and be a convenient scapegoat.

Is John Hammond still lurking.
I think we should all e mail our mps and cut this link and ask them to ask if this is true, if it is why this investigation has been delayed.
Who is in charge of arranging it and get them to ask questions in parliament to get a move on.