Exposure, newsnight etc discussion part 2

[MrsjREwing]

Last thread full.

Steve has released a statement responding to Lord McAlpines statement.

She is the sister of judge Everard who was investigating abuse. He died in a couple of inches of water which guessing from her tweet, she doesnt believe it was an accident. The Dailymail link has the full story.

cousin not sister, apologies.

Which Duncroft girl MrsJREwing?

A few pages back, she is a mnetter.

Bunglie?

Yes, or did I misunderstand

I'm OK safer if I don't say where I am, sorry.

Glad hear you're ok Bunglie

Thanks for letting us know you are ok.

""the roll of honour listed by MP Paul Flynn on his site recently?a list of respondent witnesses mentioned in the 2002 Enquiry Report?meant to be pulped in a cover-up, once copy survived and wound up at the Independent on Sunday:
R1: Fell to his death from a railway bridge. Former resident of Bryn Alyn Home.
R2: May, 1978, committed suicide aged 16 by taking an overdose of pain killing tablets. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R3: March 1985, was found dead in a flat in which he was living in poverty, aged 21. Former resident of Little Acton Assessment centre.
R4: April 1992, died in a fire aged 32 in premises in which he lived in Sussex. The inquest verdict ? unlawful killing. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R5: June 1992, found dead aged 18 in a bed-sitter. Cause of death, acute respiratory failure due to solvent abuse. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R6: January, 1994, committed suicide by hanging, aged 27.
R7: April, 1994, died aged 27 from alcohol abuse. Allegations that he had been the subject of a serious sexual offence. Former Bryn Estyn resident.
R8: July 1994, found dead in a car, aged 18. Former foster child in Clwyd where he allegedly suffered from maltreatment.
R9: November, 1994, committed suicide aged 16 by hanging.
R10: February, 1995, died from and apparent heroin overdose aged 37. Former resident of Bryn Alyn where it was alleged he had been sexually abused.
R11: February, 1995, hanged himself aged 31. Allegations of sexual abuse against care workers.
R12: May, 1995, found hanging aged 27. Allegations that he had been sexually abused by a senior care worker. Former resident of Bryn Estyn.
So unbelievably tragic""

This is so wrong, so so wrong.
I feel so utterly fucking depressed at being so powerless to do anything remotely useful with regards to all this.

I want to scream out loud that something vile and disgusting is at the very core of our nation. Does anyone listen????

It sounds like JH may have done a decent article in a paper today and DM has reprinted it with sensationilist headlines.

I am not complaining.

John, which newspaper is your article in?

One of the things that's bothering me is the poor coverage this issue is now getting. The whole issue of why Savile was allowed keys to Broadmoor, Stoke Mandeville etc seems to have been forgotten. Rod Liddle in today's Sunday Times rightly argues that the papers should be investigating why Cyril Smith was allowed access to boys' homes where he sexually abused young boys (to which one response is, Well, you're the journalist...)

These are huge stories, yet they've been dropped while the newspapers hammer away at the Newsnight story. The Observer has no coverage at all about the child abuse scandal today (its coverage of Savile has generally been poor anyway). What's happening? Why is no-one apparently pursuing these stories?

Bunglie, glad to hear you are ok

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234624/I-woke-headlines-saying-I-26-mistresses--I-STILL-passionately-argue-Leveson-mustnt-use-law-muzzle-press.html

Attention from the media for issues tends to go in phases. There are things bubbling under at the moment which may come to the surface.

I also think that with a second Jimmy Saville exposure due to air on Wednesday that emphasis may return to his links.

Hope you're right, John and member. It's possible that people are doing work on this that just isn't ready to be published yet.

It just depends what people are keen to read and the current favourite topic. I think most people are hoping there will not be more press regulation.

What's the Wednesday item?

Hi it's me tipsandshoots. I appear tohave been locked out of mumsnet.
Other that atrocious spelling and very poor grammar, I cant think what I've done.
Anyclues?

Have they emailed you?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cyril-smith-abuse-claims-covered-up-8326431.html

Good independent article
No they haven't. I have tried a password reset but it's just blocked. I am dying to chat about the twilight film aswell .
I have had to get a whole different hotmail account.
Pain in th'arse

I have been musing over the newsnight fiasco and how it went all to cock. Also liz gibbons acting editor may be been hung out to dry so to speak.

m.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/yes-the-bbc-got-it-wrong-but-its-journalism-is-as-robust-as-ever-20121113-29aic.html
This the bit that sums it up.
Something is still niggling at me though

Between the cost cutting and the lamentable management structure I'm surprised there haven't been mistakes of this magnitude earlier. The Newsnight acting editor who was at the helm for the McAlpine fiasco was under tremendous pressure. Her boss had been stood aside pending the investigation into his shelving of the Jimmy Savile story. Her co-deputy had just left for another broadcaster. Suddenly she was alone during one of the rockiest periods facing the program. I note that replacements have been found immediately for all the management class who have been stood aside over the past week, but who was sent in to help Liz Gibbons when she went from a management team of three to one? No one. That, sadly, is typical BBC.

interesting article, Lockedout. It also seems Newsnight had no investigations editor when the report went out. I can see how the holes in the swiss cheese lined up but I can't see how it was legalled - which apparently it was.

Ooooohhhh exposure add was on itv for Wednesday. I so hope it's a good investigation. I hope it pulls all the threads together. Jersey, Wales, islington northern ireland and the rest