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Exposure, newsnight etc discussion part 2

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MrsjREwing · 09/11/2012 19:05

Last thread full.

Steve has released a statement responding to Lord McAlpines statement.

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Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 19:11

I wouldnt be able to sleep at night.

MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 19:14

Carrier bags and now breaks.

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AnyaKnowIt · 17/11/2012 19:17
Shock
Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 19:20

It must be nightmare for those victims who know the names. A never ending nightmare of watching your back and being scared for your family.

MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 19:21

Didn't someone's son die with plastic bags stuffed down his throat recently?

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AnyaKnowIt · 17/11/2012 19:23

''Didn't someone's son die with plastic bags stuffed down his throat recently?''

You what? Shock

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 19:25

Yes, a police chiefs son who was a journalist. apparently he shoved plastic bags down his throat to suffocate himselfConfused

www.metro.co.uk/news/916508-suicide-of-bbc-journalist-russell-joslin-to-be-investigated-by-police

Wasnt his Dad linked to one of the inquiries?

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 19:30

I'm reading up on shape shifters at the moment (i kid you not!!)

I think my idea of them is a teeny weeny bit wrong. I seriously need to stop watching SupernaturalGrin

Xenia · 17/11/2012 19:31

Abusers are named all the time and prosecuted.

However most people abused when children 40 years on unless it were someone at your school or home or children's home tends not to know the names and why should they? I doubt they were introduced to the 12 year old "And here is Mr John Smith who is head of your local council office" or whatever,.

MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 19:31

Yes his Dad was linked.

Bruno was sectioned too recently half way driving to Scotland, those in the car with him were as mystified as Bruno as to why he was being sectioned.

All odd.

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MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 19:33

I should read about the lizard thing, as I don't get it at all, wtf is shapeshifting?

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AnyaKnowIt · 17/11/2012 19:36

Just found this...

the roll of honour listed by MP Paul Flynn on his site recently?a list of respondent witnesses mentioned in the 2002 Enquiry Report?meant to be pulped in a cover-up, once copy survived and wound up at the Independent on Sunday:
R1: Fell to his death from a railway bridge. Former resident of Bryn Alyn Home.
R2: May, 1978, committed suicide aged 16 by taking an overdose of pain killing tablets. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R3: March 1985, was found dead in a flat in which he was living in poverty, aged 21. Former resident of Little Acton Assessment centre.
R4: April 1992, died in a fire aged 32 in premises in which he lived in Sussex. The inquest verdict ? unlawful killing. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R5: June 1992, found dead aged 18 in a bed-sitter. Cause of death, acute respiratory failure due to solvent abuse. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R6: January, 1994, committed suicide by hanging, aged 27.
R7: April, 1994, died aged 27 from alcohol abuse. Allegations that he had been the subject of a serious sexual offence. Former Bryn Estyn resident.
R8: July 1994, found dead in a car, aged 18. Former foster child in Clwyd where he allegedly suffered from maltreatment.
R9: November, 1994, committed suicide aged 16 by hanging.
R10: February, 1995, died from and apparent heroin overdose aged 37. Former resident of Bryn Alyn where it was alleged he had been sexually abused.
R11: February, 1995, hanged himself aged 31. Allegations of sexual abuse against care workers.
R12: May, 1995, found hanging aged 27. Allegations that he had been sexually abused by a senior care worker. Former resident of Bryn Estyn.
So unbelievably tragic.

Taken from here

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 19:41

I thought shape shifting was demonic, werewolf type thing but apparently not, its more a personality change and even eye colour dependent on mood.

Anya, that list is truly horrific.

MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 19:48

Wiki agrees with you, beauty and the beast, warewolf's etc.

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claig · 17/11/2012 20:06

I don't think that that police chief was involved in any of these investigations. Have you got a link that says that he was?

claig · 17/11/2012 20:20

As far as I understand it, Icke believes that some of these leaders etc. are possessed by alien species which are reptilian and that sometimes they morph to a reptilian nature (i.e. shift their shape to their true, hidden selves). It's a bit like something out of a 1950s sci-fi B movie. He thinks they are cold-blooded and ruthless due to this reptilian nature.

I think it is rubbish. There are cruel and evil human beings, There is such a thing as evil and it has nothing to do with reptiles.

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 20:25

www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9634344/Family-of-sucide-reporter-blame-BBC-for-his-death.html

*"Peter Joslin, father of the deceased, Russell Joslin, investigated police officers connected with the North Wales child abuse in care homes cover-up."

newsconfidential.com/FS/FS_St...equestID=32921

"Meanwhile, a former police officer, Harry Templeton, had spent 19 years collecting evidence of mismanagement and personal misconduct by senior police officers, including Chief Constable David Owen and his Deputy Eric Evans. He sent his 19 page dossier to the Home Office and this led to two concurrent investigations, one by Her Majesty's Inspectorate and one by the Chief Constable of Warwickshire, Peter Joslin.

"Clwyd County Council then commissioned a report, by John Jillings, former head of Derbyshire Social Services, to look specifically at the allegations of child abuse. The report never officially saw the light of day. Only twenty copies of the report were produced and each one was numbered. The report remains veiled in secrecy - even to those identified as victims within its 300-odd pages. *

The news link from the original page has been deleted as far as i can tell but i will try and find the original source. Its strange because a lot of wiki pages have been changed and a lot of old articles are being deleted from google.

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 20:26

www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9634344/Family-of-sucide-reporter-blame-BBC-for-his-death.html

Sorry always forget to convert links

claig · 17/11/2012 20:27

Of course, where do good and evil emanate from is a metaphysical, spiritual question. We don't know the answer to that.

claig · 17/11/2012 20:33

Thanks, Mrcrumpswife, I didn't know that.

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 20:33

Yay, found it. If you look at the newspaper clipping on the right hand side you will see the bit about Peter Joslin investigating. its almost as though they are trying to cut the links between him and North wales by deleting things across Google.

North Wales deputy retires after inquiry

hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/docs/HOM000034930001.pdf

DontPutBeerInHisEar · 17/11/2012 20:52

Apols to side track a little mid flow, but just wanted to bring attention to this part of JH's speech in the parliament link upthread (incase anyone hasn't been able to wade through it all) and say that I absolutely wholeheartedly agree 100% with these bits in particular:

If a child in the power of the local authority wishes to complain about their treatment, they have to complain to an employee of the local authority or someone funded by the local authority. Where is the independence in that?

The lack of independence in the complaints system is why many cases of abuse are not picked up until the children subject to the abuse become adults?not necessarily at age 18 but when they get the required confidence aged 25, 30 or later. Very rarely, a Gillick-competent child in his or her mid-teens may make contact with one of the very rare solicitors who are willing to take on the local authority, but usually nothing happens at least until the children are adults......

......If an employee of the local authority is presented with a challenge?namely that the care system is not working and is not looking after children?they are more inclined to ignore it. If someone is not employed by the local authority, is independent of it and can take the system through the courts if needs be, without the children having to be Gillick-competent, people will act. The problem has not been a lack of information, but a lack of action.

Parliament has to stand on the side of the powerless. Whitehall mandarins, judges, BBC managers, council bureaucrats and professionals all have their own interests and a desire to hide mistakes. Parliament needs to balance the scales on the side of the weak?those without wealth who are crying out and not being heard.

Mrcrumpswife · 17/11/2012 20:53

I have just seen this on DI. His sister has just tweeted..

Kathy Everard
@LadyEverard
Mum,Gran,Writer,dog lover,G Daughter of Sir Lindsay Everard MP & Aviation Pioneer.Daughter of Tony Everard
Pevensey Bay

Kathy Everard @LadyEverard 1h
@schar53 Well they murdered my cousin Judge Everard 2 yrs ago,he was hearing abuse case, found out names,drowned in frozen water!!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1182091/Drunken-judge-drowns-4ins-water-slipping-stream-walking-home-pub.html

Blimey, i'm glad i'm a SAHM.

MrsjREwing · 17/11/2012 21:00

I hope the Duncrof girl who posted cimes back, I am worried about her after the break thing and this new tweet now.

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AnyaKnowIt · 17/11/2012 21:04

Who is Kathy Everard?

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