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imagine how this little girl is going to feel when sheis old enough to understand

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stitch · 20/03/2006 18:26

\link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4826148.stm\abortion bid mom}
can this not be classed as child abuse?

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Caligula · 21/03/2006 15:01

She tried to take responsibility though didn't she - by having an abortion.

speedymama · 21/03/2006 15:07

My 14 year old cousin who got pregnant is now a midwife plus she has 4 other children. She just got on with it. It was her choices that got her into that position and with the help of her family, she has done well. Having a baby does not stop one from realising their ambitions. This girl has family support for goodness sake. If she really wanted to train as a nurse, as she claims, she would.

I'm off!

madmarchhare · 21/03/2006 15:49

Yes Caligula, you are right. I suppose it does put another slant on it, these things are never so black and white are they? Maybe I should rethink my original comment about her been in it for the money (although I would be the first to say I told you so if I had further info Grin).

flutterbee · 21/03/2006 16:09

Stich I would never want you to change your opinion just because I disagree with it, I just think your opinion would be worth more if made without calling people killers, as I said in my original post if your daughter or son grows up to play a part in an abortion I shall fully expect you to refer to them as killers and they of course will understand becasue you are entitled to your opinion.

I just pray that the young girl behind all this doesn't come on mn and neither do any of her family.

mykidsmum · 21/03/2006 16:16

I disagree, she has suffered, as I said before she made a decison to terminate a pregnancy, her surviving twin will constantly remind her of that decision. Whenever her child reaches a mile stone she will be reminded that there should have been two of them reaching that mile stone. Many women move on from abortion, in her case her circumstances will never allow it, imagine that?

flutterbee · 21/03/2006 16:22

good post mykids

sparklymieow · 21/03/2006 16:30

well according to this \link{http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=438412005\news report} she was 33 weeks pregnant when she returned to the doctor.
I stand by my views that she should have had her adopted if she really didn't want her daughter.

FioFio · 21/03/2006 16:59

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expatinscotland · 21/03/2006 17:06

She signed a form. NO matter what people tell you, the court ALWAYS goes by what's in writing. She signed a waiver, as you do w/ALL medical procedures, which states that you understand there's no 100% guarantee of success.

This whole compensation culture is sickening.

She's opted not to continue her education, despite having support from her family w/childcare, which is a FAR sight more than some single parents who pursue further education have. That is her choice. Why the hell should the taxpayer have to pay for it all? Haven't we paid enough for her mistakes already?

helsi · 21/03/2006 17:08

heartless bitch! Sad

PeachyClair · 21/03/2006 17:18

I stil thin it's a cruel thing to do, but I do have some sympathy after reading the article- 'Jayde’s father had been Miss Dow’s boyfriend since their third year at school, and he had maintained close contact with his child. However, two years ago, he died suddenly at home.'. She's very young to be effectively widowed with a child, and the relationship was at least a long term one.

My only real gripe is, if you keep a child you have to protect it- and this si not protecting it.

FioFio · 21/03/2006 17:23

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misdee · 21/03/2006 17:35

the dates dont seem right to me.

misdee · 21/03/2006 17:38

33 weeks after abortion she returns to GP to be told she is 7 weeks from due date. 33+7= 40 does it not? so unless it was a very long pergnancy........

FioFio · 21/03/2006 17:40

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jacobsmummy · 21/03/2006 18:17

If the hospital are found to be negligent, then yes i do belive she should have a case against them.

However I am aghast that she has allowed her daughters identity to be revealed, it's just so selfish and cruel.

sparklymieow · 21/03/2006 18:27

But every operation has its failure %. I was made to sign a form last week to say that the op. DS was having might fail and I was aware of that. Unless she can prove that she wasn't told that it might not work, then she has no leg to stand on.
Something else that I have just thought of, is it possible to see twins on a scan at 6 weeks??

nutcracker · 21/03/2006 18:31

I have had a termination and can honestly say hand on heart that if it had failed I would have been shocked yes but certainly wouldn't have blamed the hospital.

It was explained to me before hand that the operation has no garuntess and even more so in my case as I have an odd shaped womb.

Even if it had failed and I had still not wanted the baby, I would have given it up for adoption or kept it and got on with my life not spent every minute obsessing over what I hadn't been able to do with my life because of it.

Her little girl is the innocent victim in this and the poor things identity is being dragged through the media to one day be dragged up for her to read about.

The mum should be ashamed of herself.

Caligula · 21/03/2006 19:27

Do all you people who think people who give their babies up for adoption just "get on with their lives" afterwards?

Because if so, do you never watch TV, read magazines, listen to the radio? There are so many stories out there of women whose lives have been ruined by having made the disastrous choice to give their children up for adoption. To say nothing of the stories of the children. How can anyone sit there and say so glibly that "she should have given it up for adoption"? It's like saying glibly "she should have had an abortion" or "she should have kept it". Any of those decisions are incredibly tough ones to make. I just can't understand how anyone can be so simplistic and glib about it. Bizarre.

peopleinrlknowmynickname · 21/03/2006 19:27

flutterbee, my first pregnancy was one i had to have terminated. yes, i know i killed my baby. i had my reasons, but i didnt do it under the illusion that i ws doing something right. i will burn in hell for eternity for it. but my reasons were important enough for me. and i believe a compassionate God will eventually forgive me for it.
but i know what it was. and it was murder. and the responsibility for it is soley mine.
so if i came out as being a bit harsh, well, i know what i am talking about.
please dont refer to this with my usual nickname as i have no desire to publicise this fact

Angeliz · 21/03/2006 19:31

The bit that gets me in that last article is about how she no longer plans to further her education.
She had the baby at 16-17 so that means that she's in her very early 20's and her dd is in (or soon to be) full time education. Why should she not better her life herself now?
I am Gobsmacked at this.
She must accept SOME responsibility!!

madmarchhare · 21/03/2006 20:03

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Caligula · 21/03/2006 20:20

ooh, she sounds like that Emma Carter from the Archers, Fio!

Blandmum · 21/03/2006 20:21

Now that Emma carter really is a slapper! Grin

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