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imagine how this little girl is going to feel when sheis old enough to understand

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stitch · 20/03/2006 18:26

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can this not be classed as child abuse?

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TinyGang · 20/03/2006 19:22

Also very upsetting for the girl to learn she was one of twins too I should thinkSad

PeachyClair · 20/03/2006 19:22

Yes, and can you imagine 'but at least your twin died'

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absolutely incredible

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 19:30

Hmm, I'm not sure what I think really. I do think she's got a point re loss of earnings - the lifetime loss of earnings for mothers is a high figure because it often is the mother who loses earnings due to being the main carer. I abhor the fact that we are becoming more litigious though: this idea that no matters what happens it's someone's fault, I don't like it. I don't mean to say that it's no-one's fault, I do think people in general should take responsibility for their actions - but we don't know what happened here. So how would we feel if it was a £1m a year city worker and she sued because of a failed abortion? Would we only then accept the loss of earnings argument, while tutting and shaking our heads about how her priorities were all wrong?

kid · 20/03/2006 19:30

I know someone that had a twin pregnancy terminated. One of the twins survived the termination but was damaged in some way so my friend had to have a later abortion. The baby was delivered and died shortly after Sad

I don't think the mum should be advertising to the world that she has a baby she didn't want so now expects money. Babies are precious and not everyone is lucky enough to have them, those of us that are, should cherish them, not use them to gain financially. Angry

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 19:31

And £250k isn't the cost of bringing up a child -I thought it was a much higher figure?

muma3 · 20/03/2006 19:32

i also think they have a good argument that they were not to blame for her being pregnant and i think that she is angry at herself more than anything due to it being her own mistake and things havent gone her way so she is trying to blame someone for it . also she has had 4 years to get used to mother hood so it seems strange to think that she isnt trying to cash in doesnt it?

Blandmum · 20/03/2006 19:32

would be very interested to know if she tried to protect her potential earnings by practicing effective contraception.

If she did then I have some sympathy for the loss of earnings claim, if she didn't then, hard ched! Personal responsibility and all that.

bubble99 · 20/03/2006 19:34

No operation is ever guaranteed to be successful and abortion is no exception. I assume she's being funded with legal aid to bring this case, as the lawyer will know that he/she will get paid anyway when it fails (and I hope it does) in court.

How the mother can value a potential £250k over her child's emotional wellbeing is beyond me.

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 19:34

True, true Martianbishop, absolutely. I'd love to know too. Presumably it'll come out in court. I feel sure this wasn't what breach of contract legislation was designed for. I guess I'm trying to say it's not necessarily as simple as 'awful woman, a child is ALWAYS a blessing and £250k makes her a gold digger'.

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 19:34

True, true Martianbishop, absolutely. I'd love to know too. Presumably it'll come out in court. I feel sure this wasn't what breach of contract legislation was designed for. I guess I'm trying to say it's not necessarily as simple as 'awful woman, a child is ALWAYS a blessing and £250k makes her a gold digger'.

TearsBeforeBedtime · 20/03/2006 19:35

edam - afaik the courts do award some compensation for the pain/inconvenience of PG and labour etc, but not for the cost of bringing up a child. There was a period of about fifteen years or so where the Courts would make 6 figure awards for children born following negligently performed sterilisation, but the Courts then did a volte-face on the basis, as you put it, that a child was a blessing, and restricted compensation.

very sad case, and shame that there aren't reporting restrictions on it, to avoid identifying the little girl.

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 19:36

Yes, I do think it's sad that the girl is identified. I remember a case where it was accepted that the cost of bringing up a child was high and compensation was paid, is that the same one?

madmarchhare · 20/03/2006 19:37

A case of might be able to make a few bob here as far as I am concerned.

lockets · 20/03/2006 19:38

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Blandmum · 20/03/2006 19:41

Lockets, while accidents happen in the best regulated of familes (dh is one such delightful accident Smile ) many 'contraceptive failures' happen because no contraception was used.

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Blandmum · 20/03/2006 19:50

As my old ma used to say, 'If you don't want to go to Cardiff, don't get on the train ' Grin

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starlover · 20/03/2006 19:55

i was gonna say the same thing!

don't want a baby? don't have sex

fgs.... maybe she should sue herself for shagging someone?

lockets · 20/03/2006 19:56

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starlover · 20/03/2006 19:57

well yeah! or maybe her parents, cos if they hadn't had her then she wouldn't have been able to have a baby?

bubble99 · 20/03/2006 19:58

Or sue him for even looking as though he might have sperm?

Blandmum · 20/03/2006 19:58

Or if you do have sex, make sure you do your utmeost to prevent babies until you want one.

The pill, used correctly is 99% effecient. If you also used a condom, the failure rates are even smaller. I wonder how careful she was?

starlover · 20/03/2006 20:00

well exactly! I know we shouldn't cast aspersions... but i just can't help myself!

this bit also made me laugh

Ms Dow is said to have suffered "distress and anxiety" from the discovery of her continued pregnancy and "pain and discomfort" when she had her daughter by Caesarean section.

well.... don't we all?

in fact... i might sue ds as I had a lot of pain and discomfort giving birth naturally and i have stretch marks too

Uwila · 20/03/2006 20:01

Mean mean selfish woman. She must have authorised that picture of her and her child on the internet. What a disgraceful claim to fame.

Sad