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Jobless refugee in £1.25m house?

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janji · 14/08/2012 12:39

Sorry cant link and is in the dreaded dm, but am astonished at this story and the tenants 'rights' to live in a nice home? With the government seemingly taking every extra bit if hard earned cash from those of us who are struggling day to day, how can councils paying rents in excess of £5000 per month be justified?

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LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 17:33

seriously if they're case hasn't been addressed in a decade they are not the real villans here! that is far too long to wait! I can't think of an excuse for people waiting that long!

Alameda · 14/08/2012 17:33

oh if a family member has broken the law AND there are unsubstantiated claims of damage to the property then that is obviously the end of the world as we know it

surely this is the sort of thing that happens up and down the country every day, all the time?

even privately owned houses inhabited by white people who were born here have torn wallpaper and drug dealers in them sometimes

Leithlurker · 14/08/2012 17:34

BlackIce do you imagine that living your life in total limbo leaves you with much in the way of self determination?

claig · 14/08/2012 17:37

'claig yes, it would be "ghettoisation" to not do any social housing in nice areas, and only make problem poorer areas more over stretched'

So is there social housing in Belgrave Square and Mayfair?
The taxpayer has to pay for it. The taxpayer was already paying for moats and duck houses of MPs, so the Daily Mail questions the amount of money being spent to house people in upmarket areas where homes are worth over 1 million pounds, when the majority of teh country can't afford to live in those areas.

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 17:45

claig have you never heard the phrase "false economy"? well that's what shipping all social housing occupants out to the cheapest area would be! its not rocket science! the consequences would be longer lasting and harder to tackle!

Alameda · 14/08/2012 17:45

I regularly ride round the back of a country house and garden that we have all paid for - new roof, mole/jackdaw/insect removal and it really really pisses me off, I just want to gallop across the lawn that was maintained at taxpayer's expense and churn it all up

yet somehow am finding it hard to give a fuck about this family in fulham

is just not even nearly slightly a bit as outrageous is it?

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 17:46

we marginalise people in society, making it so for a decade they cannot plan beyond tomorrow or do normal things that the rest of society can do like seek legal employment.. then act [shocked] that they don't act like sterling members of the society which they live in but are not included in!

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janji · 14/08/2012 17:47

Leithlurker, don't worry about the biscuit or goat; am off now for a well DESERVED glass of bubbly....and yes I am entitled to it!!

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BlackberryIce · 14/08/2012 17:47

Where does it say they are still waiting for their case to be heard?? Did I miss that bit?

Also, no mention of a ninth person living in the house. 7 kids, one on prison, and mum

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 17:49

err.. if they still are refugees.. and have lived here for at least 9 years....

presumably the one in prison lived in the house before prison?

claig · 14/08/2012 17:50

'claig have you never heard the phrase "false economy"?'

I think I have heard about that. Wasn't that New Labour's economic policy?

Alameda · 14/08/2012 17:51

maybe someone has confused status of refugee with that of asylum seeker?

MaryPoppinsBag · 14/08/2012 17:54

Why has it taken so long to make a decision? If it hadn't taken so long then they'd be able to work and remove the temptation of crime.
(personally I don't believe there is any excuse for dealing drugs)
I am sure this family have been in the news before - I remember flat screen TVs and games consoles being totted up.

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 17:56

don't get your response Claig, I am not a labour supporter Confused?????

Lucyellensmum99 · 14/08/2012 17:57

Now you see, when i saw the title of this thread, i knew it was a DM link. Hence im not going to read it. Or the thread. YABU

claig · 14/08/2012 17:58

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claig · 14/08/2012 18:00

'I am not a labour supporter'

Yes, their numbers are dwindling after the mess they bequeathed us. It was just a joke.

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 18:01

mail doesn't report on the families waiting in Bnbs that they are not allowed to eat in or access during the day awaiting housing, only to be given damp flats that make their babies so ill they have to go to hospital.. with shared toilets on the landings...

they're hardly looking at the bigger picture

LackingNameChangeInspiration · 14/08/2012 18:02

I don't get it, I'm not one of their dwindling ex supporters either

EdgarOlymPic · 14/08/2012 18:03

the thing i enjoy about reading the DM is spotting the twisting of the truth.

they state the value of the house as 1.25 mill - a house is worth what someone is willing to pay for it anyway, and it hardly matters what the value is for the tenant, as they don't own it.

they quote the people as saying things like 'i have a right to a nice house' as though this is ridiculous entitlement.
to be accurate, they have a right to adequate housing. UK policy/ law agrees - not ridiculous over-entitlement.

the people don't sound much like people i'd want to live next to, but that's nothing to do with the story really. antisocial/ noisy neighbours are hardly news.
being a twat doesn't remove your right to housing. still less having children who are twats.

if the council paid half of £76k on that house, what the actual fuck did they spend it on? was it refurbed from scratch? or are there some expensive modifications necessary for someone with disability that they haven't mentioned? Council over-spend would hardly be the tenants fault, or even the governments...

..loads more to spot I'm sure....

claig · 14/08/2012 18:06

'mail doesn't report on the families waiting in Bnbs that they are not allowed to eat in or access during the day awaiting housing, only to be given damp flats that make their babies so ill they have to go to hospital.. with shared toilets on the landings...

they're hardly looking at the bigger picture'

I bet they do, just like they report on the young and elderly dying of dehydration and lack of food in our hospitals, subjects which are often ignored by the so-called 'highbrow' papers.

BlackberryIce · 14/08/2012 18:07

Article mentions the refurbed kitchen and a roof

claig · 14/08/2012 18:07

'I don't get it, I'm not one of their dwindling ex supporters either'

The public didn't get it either, that's why they switched to support the Coalition.

lissielou · 14/08/2012 18:11

The public didn't get it either, that's why they switched to support the Coalition.

Actually, they didn't. That's why we have the coalition. Because despite being jaded by a labour government, there still weren't enough tory voters to win them an election outright.

Trazzletoes · 14/08/2012 18:14

They aren't asylum-seekers, they have been given asylum and are therefore refugees and allowed to work...