Tia Sharp

[LadyBeagleEyes]

Is this now a banned topic on MN?
With the new arrests, and nothing being posted, I'm assuming it is.
Fair enough if that's the decision, I'm just curious.

Why have they apologised to the mum?

For a 'human error' that occurred during the searches I think.

I' live in such a different world from Tia.
My mother, and my Ds's grandmother was already getting old when I had him as I had him late in life.
My niece was practically brought up by her as my single parent sister worked.
She was the perfect, sweet lovely granny, just what you want for your kids.
And then I read that Tia's grandmother and partner are being questioned.
It's just so wrong, and yes I know that nothing has been proved but having just recently lost my mum, I feel so sad that little Tia didn't have that in her life.
Sometimes life is so unfair.

Oh right. That makes sense.

Nobody has been charged or convicted.

I hope that Tia's GM is released without charge, Natalie has enough pain.

The grandmother and step grand father and their neighbour have all been arrested on suspicion of murder.......

Surely we have no idea who was "on the money" (and FFS, this isn't a betting game). And we won't know who is responsible for what until after charges are laid and the case tested in court.

What is so bloody difficult to understand about 'don't post speculation because MNHQ don't want it here'!

I thought the neighbour was being questioned about assisting an offender not murder?

posting opinion is not libelous

WidowWadman -' You may be wrong, in which case you heap more grief on innocent people who are in a horrible point of their life.

you think the fellow in question is sitting worrying about what i posted on MN?

Evening. Just to be clear, we don't want to stop discussion of this (or anything else) but we do have two quite big ishoos with this particular story.

First - and most important of all - a mother has lost her daughter, in the most terrible of circumstances. And a family have lost a child. It's a situation every parent dreads, and we really don't think it's the time to point fingers/blame anyone.

Secondly, though people have been arrested, no one has been charged. And the body has not yet been identified. As things stand legally, naming anyone as Tia's murderer, implying anyone is Tia's murderer or saying anything about anyone's involvement with her (alleged) murder is potentially libellous. And leaves you, as the poster, and us at MNHQ liable for prosecution.

Those are the two key things we're bearing in mind when we decide to delete posts/threads about this.

Hope that's made thing a little clearer.

"a mother has lost her daughter, in the most terrible of circumstances. And a family have lost a child. It's a situation every parent dreads, and we really don't think it's the time to point fingers/blame anyone." Well said!

it does thanks

I posted a comment about who I thought was guilty, but I hadnt a clue this could lead me to court.......the internet is a lot more powerful than I realised

Thing is, a lot of people forget that actually, no matter how cosy and familiar a site like MN is for chatting and discussing and all that, it is NOT the same has having a yack down at the pub about a newsworthy/contentious subject. The difference is that anything you post online, in a public discussion forum, can be read by any number of people and it's there forever, unlike spoken words which can be forgotten or denied if necessary.
So online discussions about criminal cases can lead to miscarriages of justice, libel actions, etc. If you want to go on about how youknow whodunnit because you are fucking deluded psychic, do it on Facebook to your equally dimwitted mates. Or, indeed, talk about it down the pub.

The only person or people to blame are those who are established to have commited a crime. In discussing this case or any other I think it's really important to focus on the fact that violence is the responsibility of the perpetrator. In this case and every case there is no social system, no personal choice, no financial or other greed based motive that ever means violence is the responsibility of anybody other than the person who carries it out.

Thanks-could i just point out then that I think the thread about Federer has a lot more potententially libellous comments.i suggest you have alook at that

If you see posts which you think are libellous, then I think it would be better to report the thread and let MNHQ decide, rather than raise on an unrelated thread.

Even the Daily Mail isn't accepting comments on this story.

so many self-appointed moderators!!

northern, I couldnt follow what you were saying there, could you say it again but a bit clearer?

Post mortum will continue tomorrow, so no cause of death yet. It must be so difficult for Natalie to take this all in.

Yes, it is often said that MN is largely self-moderating. It is usually considered a strength, for rarely is there sufficient unity - but there does seem to be on this topic. And the MNHQ view is crystal clear.

If you don't like it, there are many other sites out there.

Mumsnet, I think ye have an inflated sense of your own importance here, yes it's very sad, but nothing anybody says here will bring her back. Even the family must be speculating, so to try and control speculation is like trying to push water uphill.

And yes, the self-appointed moderators sitting at their computer typing their opinion giving out to other posters sitting at their computer always makes me go a bit cross-eyed.