We Believe You - continued

[Frontpaw]

The old thread was full. It was the first of a few I think.

I believe her.

A friend got very drunk at her 21st birthday party. She went for a lie down in her bedroom and pretty much passed out. Woke up to find some man just finishing up, thank you very much. That is RAPE. (She got pregnant from this too :( .)

they are not doing him any favours. If they had left the victim alone, who knows how his appeal would have gone. I would say the outcome is fairly clear now though. They must be awfully thick not to realise how much they are damaging his case.

I wish this hadn't happened to this girl, but from society's point of view, I'm glad that the toxic attitudes are getting a decent airing now and everyone can see what feminists have been saying for years - we live in a rape culture where the crime of rape is minimised and the victim is routinely blamed. I've seen so much denial of this, but now it's all out in the open we can tackle it remorselessly.

Just remembered that this also happened to another friend of mine, this time at a party at her boyfriend's house! Neither of these friends reported the rape, as is the case with so many rapes.

The jury must have had overwhelming evidence to convict this footballer. In this hero-worship culture, I would imagine that sadly there would have been plenty of the jurors who would not have believed her otherwise.

www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/aug/12/layla-jailed-after-reporting-sexual-assault?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038

This is not a new story but one I've only just read. I am speechless :-(

www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/aug/12/layla-jailed-after-reporting-sexual-assault?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038

I believe her.

I posted "I believe her" on that horrible FB group calling for Ched Evans to get a retrial. My post was deleted quite quickly, but not before I received lots of nasty messages from women (!) supporting him...

Goodness I just read the story posted by Longtime I am also utterly speechless. Poor girl.

Longtime, you seem to be happy that the footyball player was sent down, but unhappy about the layla case?

Surely if you beleive the justice system to be wrong in one case it could be wrong in the otehr?

I don't know enough aout either case to comment upon them directly, but in my eyes the cases of viscious women claiming rape is as abhorrent as rape itself and should be dealt with accordingly.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1003683/Jailed-The-evil-21-year-old-seduced-soldier-accused-rape.html

What would have happened to the bloke in this instance? Sent to prison, dodgint the other lags, doging boiling water and sugar, the 'black mark' against his name...

Morning all.

We thought you might be interested to hear that the police have now arrested 13 people in connection with the naming on Twitter of the woman at the centre of the Ched Evans' trial.

It's been in the news. I hate these imbeciles who feel the need to trawl her name in public.

yay! Great news.

Have just plastered: I believe her #IBelieveHer over that rancid FB page.

Good news on the arrests!

Still waiting for a turn-around from the PFA though... The FA seemed to be outraged by the Sun's headline from yesterday. I assume this to be moral outrage. Couldn't be bothered to read the story. They care more about sun headlines than rape convictions...

Wonder if moral outrage will hit the PFA some time soon.

I believe her

I believe her.

I've signed the petition asking the PFA to remove him from their honours list and liked the Facebook page.

I've given my reasons for signing the petition as being that it isn't good enough for the PFA to say the votes were cast before the guilty verdict. It was irresponsible (at best) to vote for him knowing that a case was pending or a trial was ongoing. And you cannot separate the rape from his profession as they used their status as footballers to pick up women and to claim that women want to have sex with them because of the job they do. Even to claim that that is what this woman did.

Not good enough PFA. His status as a footballer is very much bound up in this case and he does not deserve to be professionally honoured in any way because of that. To keep him on the list dishonours every other person on that list and any decent sportsman on it should ask to be removed from it if YOU keep Ched Evans on it because YOU ARE condoning what he did to this woman.

And sorry if this has already been posted but these are the contact details for the PFA if anyone wants to email them directly to request his removal from their honours list.

I believe her !!

I can't believe this has passed me by for so long. Must have been hiding under a rock.
I believe her!
And have signed the PFA petition.

Guardian reporting on an international echo - ugly response by a so-called journalist (perhaps he is, perhaps he is not, apparently they wish to protect his anonymity) on the English language kremlin steered Russia Today:

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/02/russia-today-ched-evans-rapeRussiaToday

sniff. I can do links, really I can

here

at least have the guts to use your name

I believe her

I believe her.

20 thousand signatures now asking for Ched to lose his place in the team of the year.