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6 years?? He deserves life!

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ginmakesitallok · 24/01/2012 20:24

WARNING - DISTRESSING LINK

I can't believe this man only got 6 years??! here Surely he deserves life at least?? I have a 2 year old and just can't imagine how I would feel if someone did this to her - why on earth did he just get 6 years?? Sad

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SardineQueen · 27/01/2012 10:46

The idea of pitchfork waving relates to the type of thing that happened with Jo Yeats' landlord - same as witch hunts - something bad happening and people deciding who did it off their own bat and wanting retribution.

This man has been found guilty of the most appalling crime and to lambast people for using whatever language they can to express how much it has affected them seems off to me. To have a strong emotional reaction to a story like this is normal. Surely no-one thinks that any of the women on this thread are actually going to arrange for him to be attacked in prison, or anything like that? People are simply expressing their dismay at the sentence, talking in strong terms, and then sending an email. What a bunch of self-indulgent rabble-rousers Hmm

SardineQueen · 27/01/2012 10:48

I can't believe people are seriously slagging people on this thread off for expressing their disgust at what has happened and sending an email to [email protected] in the vain hope that it might be reviewed. I don't even know if there is such a mechanism in scotland, but it's worth a try.

MamaMaiasaura · 27/01/2012 11:09

Always?? So it's the mothers fault? Angry ffs

SardineQueen · 30/01/2012 09:29

Reponse from the scottish people. I think this means that they will look at it.

Dear Ms X

Sentencing is a matter for the court.

The Crown does have a right to appeal against a sentence on the grounds that it may be considered unduly lenient - not simply lenient, within the discretion of the judge; but unduly lenient. Before lodging such an appeal the Crown must consider the likely view of the Appeal Court which has indicated such appeals must pass a high test in order to be successful.

As in any case of this nature, Crown Counsel will give careful consideration as to whether the sentence was unduly lenient.

The fact that this is done should not be taken as indicating a view that the sentence is unduly lenient.

Yours sincerely

PS/COPFS

Latsia · 30/01/2012 13:37

Thanks SardineQueen. I will also write to them asking that they review the sentence.

SuePurblybilt · 30/01/2012 13:43

Complaining address again as per Sardine's post:

Send an email about how you feel about this sentence to

[email protected]

SardineQueen · 30/01/2012 13:55

Smile yes please do write, the more that write the more they will take notice I'm sure.

SardineQueen · 30/01/2012 13:56

And any lurkers on the thread - please do email - it will only take a second Smile

Latsia · 30/01/2012 19:50

Bumping again to update evening crowd.

missbunny03 · 24/02/2012 13:27

for the ppl above just to lets use know he is appealing against his sentance which will hopefully backfire on him and he will get longer he deserves to be tortured not prision as its not punishment now adays

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 15:23

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me he wont go into that protected wing.

I am also horrified at 6 years sentance

fuck I wish I could unread that

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 15:38

also emailing, its far too lenient, fucking drug dealers get more

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 15:39

Look, a drug dealer in the same court got, 6 years!!!!!! motherfuckers

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-12840872

droves · 24/02/2012 15:52

Im disgusted that a dangerous peadophile only got 6 years for his horrific attack on a 2 year old baby.

What is wrong with the legal system ? .

Fuck putting up with this ....i am going to write to Hollyrood. We voted them in , now the least they can do is listen to the people and increase the sentences for crimes like this .The more of us protest , the more likely it is that things change for the better.

Id rather shoplifters go free and the scum like JW stay locked up forever.

Protecting our children should be the laws number one priority.

My heart goes out to the poor baby girl and her family . I hope she recovers from her injuries. Sad

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 15:52

Dear Attorney General

I have seen a news report on the BBC which I have linked : www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16701076

I am writing, as I feel very strongly that this sentence was far too lenient for this type of crime. I am also shocked that the same court has been sentencing drug dealers (as an example) for an almost equal time period. (Peter MacLean, March 2011, sentenced for 6.5 years and Joseph Murphy, 4.5 years in 2011). Likewise, for an equally horrific crime (kidnapping and rape) Michal Marchlewski received a life sentence in your courts.

I am genuinely staggered that a crime of this ilk, has received such a low sentence. Where can one obtain information as to the rationale behind this decision?

I think the following issues bear consideration:

? Who has a crime of this ilk received a similar punishment to that of a drug dealer?
? Why is sentencing so low, given the nature of the crime
? This individual is clearly a high risk to children, do the court think this sentence will rehabilitate him?

I would appreciate a response, as I am aware that many individuals feel the same, and I would be interested in understanding if a petition could be raised on this topic for consideration.

Sincerely

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 15:57

Here are the website and sentancing, a few robbers got more than him too

www.scotland-judiciary.org.uk/8/0/Sentencing-Statements

mamalovesmojitos · 24/02/2012 15:57

WishI hadn't read that....crying and I don't easily. I think my blood just ran cold. I'll email. God forgive me but I hope he's fucking tortured in prison.

giveitago · 24/02/2012 16:55

I don't wish that he get 'rough justice' from fellow inmates (eye for an eye etc just leads to more shite) but I want is that the criminal justice system is reviewed so that this baby girl gets justice and society is protected from violent and hateful people.

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 16:59

reply back:

Thank you for your email in relation to the above case

Sentencing is a matter for the court and the prosecutor plays no part in it. The legislation applicable to sentencing is a matter for Parliament. While the Lord Advocate has the right to appeal against ?unduly lenient? sentences, the Appeal Court has set out a high test which must be satisfied before a Crown Appeal against sentence will be successful. The court has stated that: -

?It is clear that a person is not to be subjected to the risk of an increase in sentence just because the Appeal Court considers that it would have passed a more severe sentence than that which was passed at first instance. The sentence must be unduly lenient. This means that it must fall outside the range of sentences which the judge at first instance, applying his mind to all the relevant facts, could reasonably have considered appropriate.?

The sentence imposed in this case was in fact an extended sentence of 10 years comprising a custodial element of 6 years together with an extended period of supervision of 4 years. The custodial part of the sentence, of 6 years, was discounted by the judge (as he had to do in terms of the relevant legislation) from a starting point of 8 years to reflect an early plea of guilty by the accused.

Crown Counsel have carefully reviewed the sentence imposed on Jaimi Watt in this case and have considered all of the available material. Crown Counsel have concluded that in all the circumstances of this case the sentence imposed could not be said to be outwith the range of sentences that could reasonably be considered appropriate by the sentencing judge exercising his discretion and taking all the relevant factors into account. Accordingly there can be no Crown appeal against the sentence imposed in this case.

I appreciate that this may be a disappointing result for you but hope that the detailed explanation is of some assistance.

Yours sincerely

PS/COPFS

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 16:59

still dont understand why! anyway.....pray she forgets it but suspect she wont

LulaBear · 25/02/2012 11:28

So they're absolutely not going to do anything?? Will e-mail them when I get home. I haven't read the link, but I think I understand enough.Sad

droves · 25/02/2012 12:31

Not that drug dealing isn't serious crime , but it appears to be seen as more serious than crimes against children . But so is theft / fraud.

We already know that the law is lenient in rape cases . Is that because is mainly done to women and children ?

It's disgraceful .

OpinionatedMum · 25/02/2012 13:58

Perhaps we should start a campaign for automatic life sentances for child rapists?

It's just wrong that people can be let out into society when thay have done something that brutal.

droves · 25/02/2012 14:10

It comes down to money. What it costs to keep them in prison / state hospitals v letting them out.

Peadophilles cannot be rehabilitated . They cannot stop being peadophilles .

Even a life sentence would rarely actually mean life in jail until they die...it's more like 10 years , these days.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 26/02/2012 22:47

couldnt read all of the article I felt physically sick. And so much anger isnt healthy in me. Angry