BREAKING NEWS: P&G win gold on the mumsnet family awards (which they sponsor)

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Anyone else a bit cynical about this and think that P&G have basically 'bought' the award. My best friend and husband used to work there (how i met him) and I can guarantee they are anything BUT family friendly to work for!!!

Well shirley- they had a thread previously asking MNers their opinion on O2's family friendly policies, on which I seem to recall many posters slated them... yet O2 won a silver award

Goodness knows how mean we had to be about easyjet and matalan!

shirley is so gonna get a smack time out

(I totally wasn't fingering Justine in my last post BTW. I was doing that teeny tiny finger gesture which indicates TEEEEEENINESS)

Thanks, Justine. :)

i should hope you weren't fingering justine anywhere!!!!

i fear this thread is going to take a tangent shortly

If I had a compulsion to defend companies which operated in repressive regimes, polluted water supplies and killed 50,000 animals a year, would you say I had a blue chip on my shoulder?

fingering Justine....

I fear that I will go to bed and by the morning this will have gone

Owing to aforementioned tangent :o

MTG -I am not passing comment specifically on P&G, as I do not work for them. My point was that I take these kinds of awards with a large pinch of salt as, unless you work from them, it is very difficult to understand the overall culture of an organisation - it is easy to have family friendly policies, what is much more difficult to have is a truly family friendly approach.

A very quick tip, look around you at 5.05pm (if 5pm is the normal finish time) and see how many employees are still around, if it's the majority then that's not a family friendly organisation and sadly this is increasing given job uncertainty.

Got to say, it doesn't reflect well on mumsnet. Really ? You can see any single reason why this poster isn't genuine? Really ?

Disclose, LeBof.

Pah, polluted water.

I'm off to bed myself.

Please don't ban me MNHQ

MTG Stop brownnosing MNHQ and answer the question please.

BIllComptonstrouseres Architen isn't a P&G mole, I know her from PN/AN threads.

MTG, I am not cynical, I don't care if P&G hold weekly Unicorn and Diamond parties for all members of staff and their families. I am interested in you and your obsession.

Tell me: When did it start and what was the trigger?

Justine
no-one disputes that Mindthegapp is now a teacher. The thread is about why she leaps to P & G's defence without being transparent about her connections to that company. She obviously used to work for P&G which she won't admit here. But even she has posted elsewhere, "I used to work for a blue chip but retrained as a teacher".

So, nothing she says about P&G can be taken at face value.

Regarding the awards, yes, we'd love to know how the awards were made as many people on this thread have some direct or oblique experience with P & G and found them less family friendly than they make out.

Oh, and will you be continuing the gerrymandered family friendly awards next year?

LeBof - operate in repressive regimes, polluted water supplies and killed 50,000 animals a year

Is all that true about P&G (I am not at all surprised if so)

Perhaps P&Gs apparently unpaid defender would like to explain???

A company is not family friendly if it treats the environment and communities etc appallingly badly

Thanks Justine for explaining the staff audit behind the awards - makes sense - so on balance, P&G have more staff having positive family friendly experiences than some of the other nominees for this award. It certainly doesn't mean that everyone who works there will have had the same positive experience, such as the OP and a few others who have posted. On the other hand, it's really important that all efforts to make workplaces more family friendly are celebrated and publicised, and if P&G are doing a bit better than some others then that's worth noting.

But I still think that MTG has been a bit weird about it all...

Apologies GSY

Night Shirley. If you can't say what you think then I think that rather defeats the object of the board doesn't it?

Here is the thread where Mindthegapp got into a row with other teachers mainly down to her aggressive posting style about switching careers from a blue chip company to teaching. First relevant mindthegapp post is at 12:11:34.

It's all from The Ethical Consumer Guide. Like all many big corporations, their record ain't great.

MindtheGappp what is your relationship to Proctor & Gamble?

so mindthegappp used to work for p&g and now she is a teacher who has loads of free time and never works outside of class.

interesting. veeeeeery interesting

that's pure speculation btw, i haven't just found it out from somewhere