Dale Farm Eviction

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-15163750

It seems sanity has prevailed. Let's hope there are no more delays and the site is cleared ASAP

glasnot

Just to point out that Un and eu human rights well some of them are bonkers look at people that have been allowed to stay in uk under human rights

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8752704/Travellers-facing-eviction-from-Dale-Farm-gipsy-camp-have-their-own-homes-in-Ireland.html

so will they still be 'homeless'

Ah the human rights argument. As I understand it, the main concerns were:

1. The right to adequate housing which is culturally suitable
2. The right to be protected from forced evictions
3. The right of ethnic minorities to be protected from discrimination.

Well let's discuss the easy ones first. 2). Well bear in mind that they were there illegally in the first place and have been given countless opportunities over a 10 year period to leave of their own accord. If I was a squatter in a house and the homeowner wanted his house back, would it be right to claim its against my human rights to forcibly evict me? Of course not. The right to be protected from forced evictions are protecting the law abiding citizens. That's you, me & the legal side of the site.

1. Well there's no racial discrimination in my eyes. They've broken the law plain & simple. Noone has said "Hell they are only gypo's, let's throw them out of their homes, even if they are legally there"

And lastly the first. This is open to interpretation. They've been offered alternate accomodation, something they've declined because it's not in keeping with their "culture". Ie. Traveling/caravan. At the same time they've been there 10 years so you can't really say they are travelling. Plus many own bricks & mortar homes so again its weakens your own case to argue you can't live in a house when you own one somewhere else.

There are other sites and I'm sure in 10 years they could have worked with the council to find a suitable site rather than trying to circumvent the law.

Yes. There is police evidence, and the businessman saw them drive his van away. As for the death threats, a local farmer, (who is terminally Ill) found them on her land, cutting down her trees FFS. They threatened to cut her throat and kill her animals. Police were called. Why does there need to be witnesses. If a non traveller broke into your house and said they would kill you, that would be used in court wether there were any witnesses or not. What's the difference.

dalefarm.wordpress.com/

A highly debatable infringement of planning law provokes all this high octane emotive media coverage and causes mucho frothing at the mouth. Wonder why? Any excuse to indulge in ugly antiziganism. Ticks so many boxes.

I can't say I'm particularly bothered.

The best you can come up with is to change my name! Very good.

And sorry but I have to laugh at you because you are being completely ridiculous with you assumptions.

You accuse me of not listening to anyone else's opinions and having a go at anyone who disagrees with me. Pot. Kettle. Black. Take a good long look at yourself.

Where's mathanxiety, she was worth listening to.

I can't get worked up about this.

One of the ladies has cursed the leader of Basildon council to die before Christmas. Nice.

Glasnost they've cost people a fortune. Deliberately, wilfully. Twenty million quid. All they have to do is move onto the legal site. Twenty million quid for that.

Honestly they really should have gone peacefully. They went to law, all that money going to law, when they're just going to ignore it and always planned to. They've brought the eviction on themselves and those protestors have brought the police action down on them.

They're taking fire trucks and police from the regular community -- really I would be ashamed to defend such actions.

They have removed the kids

The site cant be put back to green belt anyway so the whole sorry story will start again when they move elsewhere.

I have a legal site in my town which has been there 25 years plus. No one has any trouble from them.

Glasnost, if 'they' hadn't been gypsies, they would have been off the site years ago.
And as for being 'frothy at the mouth' you seem to be the only person getting frothy around here!

"OP why did you start this thread? "

Presumably because, this being the 'In the News' board, and the eviction being a very current & dramatic news story, the OP thought it was appropriate. There was no 'crowing'.

Then why did one of the BBC reporters this morning say they'd just seen a traveller woman fleeing with a babe in arms?
I bet they built all their chalets & brick homes with working toilets inside.

A land grab precedent is being halted here, it's important.

Yep, for the exact reasons Cogito said. Where did I crow?

Do people seiously think that the council have enough houses to rehouse all these people. Of course they dont.

I would be pretty hacked of if i was living with my parents or in a flat as a family with kids then to be put back to the bottom of the list. Emergency cases jump the que.

Give them council houses and someone else wont get one. Thats sensible at a time when people cant get mortgages.

18m could have built a whole new estate to ease the already bulging council list.

Ragged they have moved the kids onto the legal side. They have already said they got no warning. Where should they take the kids. To a layby with a babe in arms, nice

They got no warning? Eh?