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Les Tricoteuses part three

249 replies

Terribletriplets · 22/07/2011 18:27

maj

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sayanything · 28/07/2011 11:37

Just marking my place - sorry, I have nothing to add.

BornSicky · 28/07/2011 16:59

and it's all kicked off again. This time, NI have hacked Sara Payne's mobile - a phone given to her by Rebekah Brooks. Article says Sara Payne is understandably devasted.

guardian article on Sara Payne

noddyholder · 28/07/2011 17:27

CNN have suspended Piers Morgan Come on I loathe him!!!

limitedperiodonly · 28/07/2011 17:37

I loathe him too noddy. It goes back to that Viglen share business and then the faked squaddy pissing photos.

Of course, he didn't know anything about those regrettable incidents and had the utmost respect and sympathy for his readers who either expected a proper investigation into real abuse of Iraqi prisoners or increased the prices of shares after his paper ramped them.

Ponders · 28/07/2011 18:48

CNN might have suspended PM as much as anything because his viewing figures are shit Grin

justaboutWILLfinishherthesis · 28/07/2011 18:54

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TheCrackFox · 28/07/2011 19:02

Apparently he hasn't be suspended, that is a fake story.

Arse.

I was so excited.

BornSicky · 28/07/2011 19:10

me too! crackfox

gutted.

nvm though. he is such a scumbag that wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't all spill out for him at some point.

Rebekah Brook's faux sincerity about sara payne is sickening and she's given a clever little clarification about the phone as well: apparently it wasn't a gift, but was a campaign phone... so of course that means it's ok for mulcaire to hack it for her newspaper, doesn't it? Hmm

AwesomePan · 28/07/2011 21:24

it's tricky, isn't it?

PM (now which shiney-faced individual do we mean?) has been notably quiet since this new exposion has happened. I am pretty sure that Piers position is that "I know lots of things, but nothing you could nail on me, and now I am fabulously rich, and a bit old, I have noooo interest in helping anyone, other than myself." Sort of thing.

Piers has a very limited shelf-life now in the entertainment industry. He has no morals as a trigger to 'reveal' anything.

reelingintheyears · 28/07/2011 22:08

And now we hear Sara Paynes phone was 'hacked'.....

Given to her by Rebecca Brookes.

Surprise,surprise.

edam · 28/07/2011 22:11

OK, so this wasn't unexpected but it's still bizarre. Sara Payne was working with the NOTW - they could have asked her anything they wanted to find out. WHY hack her, ffs?

reelingintheyears · 28/07/2011 22:15

I suppose because untrustworthy people don't trust anyone else.

Maybe they just wanted private stuff from her?

So they could sell a few more papers.

AwesomePan · 28/07/2011 22:17

it's the culture at the time, isn't it, edam?

Ponders · 28/07/2011 22:21

Sara is Sarah's mum, Pan

I heard tonight though that until 18 months ago she never had any voicemails on that phone???

AwesomePan · 28/07/2011 22:25

oh. Thanks Ponders. Memory relapse is confirmed. I only remember the badge being spouted as "Sarah's Law" as a NOTW campaign. Which was dubious at the time.

AwesomePan · 28/07/2011 23:10

Have we seen Mr Watson explain that within 90 mins of the revalation re Sarah's phone being hacked a NI preprepared satement was issued??
Is the Met enquiry as tight as it is supposed to be? How can they (NI) be cued in advance to respond so quickly if eitehr 1. they were tipped off by the Met, or 2. they knew that her phone had been hacked all along.

bkgirl · 29/07/2011 00:06

Er read this
10.37pm: Chief inspector Martin Underhill from Sussex police, who led the investigation into the death of Sarah Payne, has told the BBC that he thinks his mobile was hacked.

Underhill contacted officers from Operation Weeting two weeks ago to say he thinks his phone may also have been hacked, according to Newsnight.

His concerns relate to an occasion when he was contacted by a senior News of the World executive about a story that he now believes was gained from listening to his messages.
www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-scandal-live-coverage?CMP=twt_gu#block-14

You know if it were me hacking a policeman/womans phone especially during an active investigation I would expect to be doing time and not having dinner with the heads of the police/mps/prime minister.

AwesomePan · 29/07/2011 00:33

of course you are right re the "if it was me." bit. But I have a horrible, sneaky feeling that after all of this horror show, no-one but no-one is going to get convicted of anything at all. Not Murdoch, not Mulchaire, not anyone from NI, or the Met.
If there was conclusive evidence worth a CPS charge, it would have come out by now. All we have are arrests and release on bail, or, not even that. Barristers are earning a fortune, we all get excited and waste our fingers on the knitting thing, but no heads will roll. They are all too inter-dependent on each other. The Met is corrupt and has been ever it existed, and the HoC Select Cmtes are not designed for the purpose. Judge Leverson's enquiry is a classic deflection by the vested interests - nothing judicial at all.

It's all a bit like watching a wrestling match on tv......(who is Giant Haystacks, or Kendo Nakasaki, or Mick McManus?....)

Nancy66 · 29/07/2011 10:46

Mulcaire WAS convicted - he went to prison.

Ponders · 29/07/2011 12:01

mm - that was for the "one-off, rogue reporter" incident - he & Goodman were the fall guys.

Maybe Mulcaire will be the fall guy again for all this Hmm

Jugglingjemima · 29/07/2011 12:54

It seems that Mulcaire is going to be the fall guy again. But didn't JM say that he had only just found out that NI were paying his legal fees? As I understand it, he is not going to get any more financial help from NI. So, does he have to carry the can for everything without any more money? (unless in brown envelopes) And (I think) that he has signed a confidentility agreement.

Ponders · 29/07/2011 16:43

\link{http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8671046/Phone-hacking-Glenn-Mulcaire-says-he-acted-on-the-instructions-of-others.html\A firmly-worded statement issued by Mulcaire's lawyer today stated any suggestion that he may have acted ''unilaterally'' was ''untrue''}

if he goes down again he'll take them all with him...

noddyholder · 29/07/2011 17:21

I never thought I would ever sympathise with someone as odious as Mulcaire

Ponders · 29/07/2011 18:42

me neither, noddy

I hope he shafts the lot of them Angry

Jugglingjemima · 29/07/2011 19:06

I thought he was bound by a confidentiality agreement with NI?