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Les Tricoteuses part three

249 replies

Terribletriplets · 22/07/2011 18:27

maj

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AwesomePan · 22/07/2011 19:29

oh this isn't good is it? Have you all been arrested and are at Paddington Green 'helping the police with their enquiries'?

LucaBrasi · 22/07/2011 19:36

Apparently Jude Law is saying that his phone was hacked at JFK Airport.

Not sure how he would know this....

aliceliddell · 22/07/2011 19:43

Was nobody else Shock at dc on R4 news Wa1 when he said the 'management' of NI had to clear up the mess and would be held to account by their shareholders? This is a major scandal involving press/police/politicians variously colluding/backstabbing each other in a rats' nest of corruption and the Prime bloody Minister (not a totally clean pair of hands) delivers responsibility to a group who happened to invest in some shares? You might conclude that alone indicates some sympathy with NI as an organisation.

BornSicky · 22/07/2011 19:45

Not scheduled to be arrested until the twelfth day of never. Murdoch senior's appointment is on the thirteenth...

aliceliddell · 22/07/2011 19:45

That might have been said already on the other thread?

claig · 22/07/2011 19:46

Didn't hear it, but good point. Isn't Murdoch the largest shareholder?

aliceliddell · 22/07/2011 19:46

X-post with Born, sorry!

aliceliddell · 22/07/2011 19:47

And again with claig. oops

ImpyCelyn · 22/07/2011 19:48

(marking place)

BornSicky · 22/07/2011 20:13

Xpost. Agree completely Alice. It is looking very suspect, espevially since nixson was fired yesterday.

AitchTwoOh · 22/07/2011 22:39

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Ponders · 22/07/2011 22:40

just seen a tweet that another Sunday tabloid is about to be exposed re hacking

Shock

shall we place bets?

Ponders · 22/07/2011 22:41

was Newsnight

BBCNewsnight BBC Newsnight
Coming up at 22.30 - latest on the Oslo terror attacks, plus we reveal new evidence of phone hacking at another Sunday tabloid. #newsnight

oh, is it on already???

AitchTwoOh · 22/07/2011 22:51

any news on which one it is? can't have tv on right now.

AwesomePan · 22/07/2011 22:52

Sunday Mirror

claig · 22/07/2011 23:01

it just seems like there is such a lot of hypocrisy about the use of private detectives. If we are to believe the ex-Sunday Mirror journo, then everyone has been at it, and presumably everybody knew that everyone else was at it.

AwesomePan · 22/07/2011 23:02

Mensch came across as bad as the journos she is ,rightly, enquiring into i.e. influence (from the safety of parliamentary privilige) without accountability i.e. to the public. Real shame.

HedleyLamarr · 22/07/2011 23:02

Can you spot one of our esteemed MNers in this article. They have changed her name slightly to avoid a massive swear. Still, made me smile. Wink

AitchTwoOh · 22/07/2011 23:05

ContestedSainsburys?

AwesomePan · 22/07/2011 23:06

cupcakes?

claig · 22/07/2011 23:07

Cupcakes?

mrsdonkeybucket · 22/07/2011 23:13

Hedley

Cupcakes and bunting. I spotted it !

Did you also spot the other mn 'reference' ? I am sure someone is reading our threads/posts and pinching things we write.

I'll give you a clue......name is part of a film. Wink

LucaBrasi · 22/07/2011 23:39

Oh Goodness, I don't know right from left
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8655106/Im-starting-to-think-that-the-Left-might-actually-be-right.html

claig · 23/07/2011 00:04

Very good article, LucaBrasi. I agree with most of what Charles Moore says, but have believed it for years and years, unlike his recent conversion to it. Of course the Left are right on lots of things. But he has thrown teh baby out with the bath water. It's not capitalism and free markets and free competition that are wrong, it's crooks and cheats who corner teh market and create momoply power. That's why capitalism needs regulation to stop the crooks.

He is also wrong about the News of the World. In a free country people should be allowed to read what they like, not what Charles Moore in his ivory tower thinks is good for them.

He is also wrong about the EU banks, when he says

'As for the plight of the eurozone, this could have been designed by a Left-wing propagandist as a satire of how money-power works. A single currency is created. A single bank controls it. No democratic institution with any authority watches over it, and when the zone?s borrowings run into trouble, elected governments must submit to almost any indignity rather than let bankers get hurt. What about the workers? They must lose their jobs in Porto and Piraeus and Punchestown and Poggibonsi so that bankers in Frankfurt and bureaucrats in Brussels may sleep easily in their beds.'

It is the left who back the EU now and right wing Eurosceptics who are against it. He is right that teh power is centralized into a European bank, but it is the left that supports teh bankers and wanted us in the EMU, it was teh right that fought for independence from teh central bankers and teh central statism of the EU. It is the left who do teh bidding of teh bankers, just as they were the ones who bailed out teh bankers, while right wingers like Sarah Palin were against Obama's bail out of the banks and pro the bail out of the US motor industry.

You have to ask if Charles Moore means what he says, because if he does then we should expect teh Daily Telegraph to start being left wing. But don't hold your breath.

What is he really telling us?
Is he really hinting at the end of democracy?
He rightly says that the people have lost faith.
It started with the Daily Telegraph's reports on MPs' expenses, then it was teh bankers, now it is the press, the police and teh politicians. What's left?

He says he prays that conservatism can be saved. He says teh left's remedies are useless. He says there may not be much time left.

Our faith in our institutions has been undermined. Why were we shown what is behind the curtain?

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