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New thread to continue from God those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

and yy to bornsicky on these people retiring with full bens we pay for!

terribletriplets ooh, I wish they would, but i've never heard of a judge actually doing that.

oh and FTR, it was just as bad with all those MPs stepping down at the end of the last parliament instead of resigning during that sitting (due to MPs expenses scandal). they all got nice pay offs (some £500,000) for waiting it out until the end of the parliamentary year. If they'd have gone during their term they wouldn't have got their benefits.

It all bloody sucks.

Sorry, very grumpy today. Losing a job should mean a loss of privileges, not a big fat pay off. The difference between the poor and the rich is in sharp relief for me.

The police have two sets of practices. If you are a normal run of the mill criminal or a posh person they think will run away or destroy evidence they drag you out of your bed at 6am and arrest you. If you are middle class or more and they are really not that certain they have a case against you, and they want you to be very co operative they will invite you to attend at the police station at a convenient time. Once you arrive you will be arrested so the full provisions of PACE apply and there is structure to your detention and less possibility you can wriggle out of it by saying you did not have your rights etc. They also like to arrest people who think they are attending voluntarily to put the fear of God into them.

bornsicky again, totally agree on MP's expenses. but also - wasn't there something recently where they decided they didn't like the new regime so they are basically going to go back to the old one? smacked of assuming we had all forgotten about it and wouldn't notice...

Or judge could look at her assets and fine her that. I agree that it is galling that these clowns just resign to a comfortable life. What precedents are there? Archer went to gaol, no fine.

The right wing of the Tory party don't like Cameron (or Kenneth Clarke; they would have loved to have got rid of him over his ill-judged but misconstrued rape comments).

(would secretly love Boris to be PM. I think he is very intelligent but I would love it for the comedy value. If we are going to be a third world country, at least we would have a charismatic leader)

To think we were so niaive (sp?) to imagine this was about slebs cellulite & shagging! Never suspecting the hideous rat's nest of police, parliament, press festering in a mutual protection/extortion club to prevent us using any of them to control the others. So much for 'of the people, by the people, for the people'.

FFS teejwood you are joking....dear gawd almighty...it's actually depressing.The rest of us are just trying to get by but get lectured by this lot:(

boris?

oh dear god no! would be as embarrassing as having bush junior.

if it has to be a tory, then hague is just about tolerable.

sorry did I say lectured...I meant shafted

I did say secretly re: BoJo

I heard him on Today this morning (bits of) attacking Yates. The interviewer mentioned (something about) his own connection with NI and BoJo interjected, 'I was hackee'. The interviewer took this to mean that he used to be a journalist and BoJo said that he had had his own phone hacked and then (I think) he said that he wanted to see all of those responsible to go to prison for years.

The s key has fallen off my keyboard, so if anyone has a spare key, pm me. Otherwise I have to use a match every time I need that letter. Hence my odd wording to avoid that letter, eg gaol, BoJo. You know that novel that didn't contain the letter e? Well, that author had it not too hard. Losing s is a nightmare. I might try and fubftitute f for s. Af on old graveftonef.

sounds like Yates will be suspended pending full investigation...what's the bet its on full pay
*bangs head off wall

bkgirl some links:
they want to pay more staff bonuses again
Mp's complain to NAO about IPSA
Mp's complain IPSA is too wooly
basically if they can hack away at the changes incrementally we will more or less be in exactly the same position as a few years ago!

"John Yates is going to be suspended "pending an investigation over the phone hacking scandal and his links to Neil Wallis", according to a report on the Daily Telegraph's website. Here's an extract.

The Metropolitan police authority is currently holding a meeting to discuss Mr Yates' handling of the phone hacking affair and his links with Mr Wallis, a former senior executive at the News of the World.

It is understood the authority has decided to hold an investigation into the assistant commissioner. It is expected he will be asked to step down while this investigation is carried out.

A source close to the mayor told The Daily Telegraph: "If an investigation is ongoing he cannot stay in his job." 

Telegraph, via the Guardian live blog.

Suspended on full pay???

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/boris-johnson-news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-codswallop\here's Boris on the 'non-existant' hacking last Sept}

'"codswallop" that "looks like a politically motivated put-up job by the Labour party"'

PM material in the wake of all this? I think not...

(shame, because he is very clever & very funny, but he is tainted now)

'Pressed about his being "a victim or potential victim" of hacking he refused to "go into detail about what seems to be a case that has been very substantially investigated by all sorts of bodies. I don't think the question of whether or not I am a victim is in any way new. It doesn't seem to me to add to the weight of evidence."
Johnson said he would "have to look back at my notes" in order to recall how much detail he was given about any intrusion at the time he was alerted, but doubted he would find much to add.'

my italics (I do love retrospective nit-picking )

HA!

ponders maybe "BoJo" had a change of heart when he realised he had been hacked (either when the police told him or when the media started to talk about him appearing at functions with a lady-companion-who-is-not-wife-shaped)

Boris makes me laugh but PM - dear heavens, no...

at Triplet's keyboard woes.

Cannot believe what happens on a Sunday anymore.

First that RB was arrested, although by appointment. That's dodgy in itself.

Then nearly fell off my sofa last night reading teletext to see that Paul Stephenson had resigned.

Liked the dig at Cameron, I have mentioned before that I do wonder if all of this that is going on is what DC meant by "We're all in this together". It must be some kind of 'in' joke, that has spectacularly backfired. He sure as hell didn't mean it to include 'us' : the general public.

I think John Yates will go, and as for Boris, he makes me so cross, every time he opens his mouth he puts a bit more of his foot in it.

I think that DC will go after a vote of no confidence. There is no way he will stand down/resign by himself. I think also a term of him going will be that Clegg goes too, and then I think we will see a General Election ?

They have announced an extra day in Parliament, they were supposed to be going on Summer Recess tomorrow afternoon, I wonder if we will get an announcement sooner rather than later ?

Is anyone still shocked at the depths all this goes too ? Each new bit of news seems to be being met with anger, and sadness, but not shock so much. Did we all realise how corrupt our Politicians and Police were, but felt that nothing could be done ?

if clegg goes who gets the libdem leadership? cable turned it down once before. huhne - who lost out to clegg - has little if any credibility left after the speeding points fiasco. also his personal life probably rules him out!

simon hughes?

give it back to menzies?

Well my goodness, just heard Ed Milliband who up to now I thought was bland. He made sense and I love the way he even explained that concentration of power in any organisation was bad and he highlighted the fact we have 6 energy companies. Ok he has renewed my hope this mess can be sorted.
Why has Cameroon said so little, he does seem to be hiding all the time? I want the politicians to work together but am really worried Cameroon is tainted.Does Rupert own him or something? Also gossip about ownership of a racehorse is on twitter....if so Cameroon would really have to go.Is there anyone clean that could take over?

The lawyer of RebBro:

?"Outstanding track record" (Legal Business)
Selected matters in which Stephen has acted:

?Advised the Prime Minster, Tony Blair, and all the No 10 and Cabinet Office witnesses in the Hutton Inquiry
?Advised former Prime Ministers Margaret Thatcher and John Major and former Deputy Prime Minister Michael Heseltine in the BSE Inquiry
?Advised a key witness in the Iraq Inquiry
?Represented developer, in a judicial review challenge to the report of Sir Robin Auld's Commission of Inquiry in the Turks and Caicos Islands.
?Represented Sir Ian Blair and other officers in the IPCC investigations arising out of the shooting of the Jean Charles de Menezes
?Represented Sir Ian Blair in the Flanagan investigation for the MPA.
?Part of team representing soldiers in the Baha Mousa public inquiry.
?Represented clients in the loans-for-peerages investigation.
?Represented clients in the BAE/ Saudi corruption investigation.

mrsdonkey i think in good times too many were minded to turn a blind eye as long as the wheels kept turning.
with economic uncertainty, not enough money to fund pensions, unis, the nhs, care, more people are re-examining their contract with the state (i work, toe the line, trust the government and police to run the country, pay my dues and the state will look after me and mine) and finding it wanting...

of course that only goes for the public - i am intrigued as to why the media decided to go for broke these past weeks having effectively isolated the Guardian/Private Eye on this topic until now...