Rabbis call for extermination camps

[Kurkum]

imemc.org/article/60435

And this is nothing new. Watch this: .

Imagine the outrage if Christian bishops or Muslim imams demanded the mass death of Jews in concentration camps. So where is the outrage when leading rabbis call for death camps and genocide for the Palestinians?

"To those of you who doubt that these are leading rabbis"

Rabbi Rosen is a relatively low profile nutter.

When the Pope visited the middle east the Rabbi said that Jesus was a false prophet who got what he deserved, and that wasn't exactly a high profile event either.

Even the Palestinian Authority don't seem that worried about him, [[www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3945117,00.html "Even in Israel they stopped paying attention to him"] they said after those announcements that you link to.

Yes there are nutters who claim they have a God given mission to kill all the Palestinians.

However there are religious nutters the whole world over who say all sorts of rubbish and giving them too much attention is very self defeating. I won't give that Rabbi any more thought than I would the Holocaust Deniers or Gay haters who preach equally silly bobbins the whole world over.

Sorry, the PA quote and link should be

"Even in Israel they stopped paying attention to him"

BadgersPaws,

Is the former Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel a low-profile figure, in your eyes?

Chief Jewish rabbi justifies Gaza genocide

OK now you're shifting the goalposts....

You're original post was about the extreme view that the Palestinians are Amalekites and that therefore there is a God given order to kill them all.

You're now talking about a statement made by a former Chief Rabbi, after he was the Chief Rabbi and about the conflict in Gaza.

And as if that wasn't separate enough he doesn't seem to say that the locals in Gaza are Amalekites and therefore should be killed anyway, so he doesn't appear to agree with the nutter you were originally talking about.

If you want to start a new thread discussing the Israeli behaviour in Gaza then go for it and you would probably find me arguing on your side. But this has absolutely nothing to do with the original genocide chasing nutter, if anything it shows that the more high profile Rabbis don't agree with that at all, which is the opposite of what you were originally claiming.

BadgersPaws:

"You're [sic] original post was about the extreme view that the Palestinians are Amalekites ..."

No it wasn't. My original post was about the fact that many top rabbis openly call for the extermination of the Palestinians and now they are even talking about death camps.

"My original post was about the fact that many top rabbis openly call for the extermination of the Palestinians and now they are even talking about death camps."

But that's why they're talking about extermination and genocide, because they claim that they're Amalekites, who God ordered them to wipe out. And it wasn't "many top rabbis" but a handful of, as even the linked article admitted, extreme nutters out of tune with conventional thinking.

Where as you're now talking about military operations, civilian deaths and a Rabbi who seems to disagree strongly with your original post.

So, Kurkum, in the interests of balance, I'm looking forward to your next thread on the many nutters who have publicly stated that all the Israelis should be killed, pushed into the sea etc.

But you're not going to do that, are you?

Can't think why not.

My 80 year old Grandmother travels to Palestine a couple of time a year to volunteer as a teacher. Having hear first hand reports from her and having watched Louis Theroux last night who apparently tried to be as unbiased as possible the situation is disgusting and this would not surprise me at all.

But yes the only thing she found incredibly difficult was that a lot did deny the holocaust. But maybe there just slightly pissed of that it is being used as n excuse to persecute, kill and force out palestinians.

I also have Jewish friends who agree the situation is abhorrent, and that most Israelis feel Palestine should be theres by way of compensation.

The oppressed in this case have become the oppressors.

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

Doesn't forcing children from there homes, cutting of basic amenities, destroying what building they do have left and killing young children in there bed fit the description pretty well?

granted: You are referring, maybe, to the brazen mistranslation of Ahmedinejad's statement on the end of the Zionist state? Or someone else? Perhaps you could be more specific.

they already have a massive extermination camp though. It's called Gaza.

btw proton you sound a bit rabid to me....calm down dear.

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donnie - don't patronise me just because i don't share the same views as you, you make yourself look a complete twat

Donnie, Gaza is not an extermination camp. Please.

Both sides need a good slap. The Israelis have the upper hand due to superior army/weaponry etc. I can't help but feel if the power was suddenly reversed then the Palestinians would show less restraint than then the Israelis have over the years. Understandable given their deplorable situation. There are no clear good guys/baddies in this.

proton - I am a little concerned at your constant swearing and name calling. It's a bit hysterical.

i agree with begonyabampot. one thing i have always wondered though, where are all the many surrounding wealthy arab states in this, why don't they pour money to the palestinians. i don't think they care tbh, lebanon haven't exactly treated the palestinians well either

Rhadegunde: yes perhaps concentration camp is a more accurate description. Having said that it doesn't really make it much better does it?

Why haven't neighbouring Arab states poured in money to help the Palestinians someone asked? I wonder this too. In particular those very wealthy ountries - look how their leaders throw money about when it comes to their own lifestyle, no luxury is too much it seems. I suppose the reason may be that if they did, the Palestinian's plight would no longer be acute and then possibly there would be no real impetus for anything to change. So if the Palestinians were to be offered new homes and help elsewhere in the Arab world or were enabled to live comfortably in the areas they currently self-govern, who would take up their case re regaining land etc? Possibly that is behind it: the wish to keep it a drastic situation and therefore one which demands change?

How do religious leaders get away with calling for hatred and genocide? I can never understand this. Surely they immediately discredit themselves amongst their flock? Seems not though, seems people everywhere are really keen to be swept along in a call to hatred, depressing really to think about. For instance I don't understand why religious teachers who presumably are so caught up in their religious studies and trying to understand God etc that I would have thought they would be exempt from this kind of thing or at least on their guard against it get into hate preaching. Don't really understand this mechnaism at all.

Jordan haven't treated Palestinians well either. My take on it is that it isn't really about israel, the arabs have pretty much always hated jews certainly long before israel came along. jews have been in the middle east as long as they have. the palestians cause unites the arab states together in their hatred and use the poor sods as a tool. i think the whole thing is terrible sad.

I don't think that Arabs have always pretty much hated Jews. I don't really know but Jews lived as smallish minorities in Arab countries for many yearswithout being hassled AFAIK. Read recently something about Arab protecting their Jewish neighbours from prosecution during the Nazi madness in WWII. Forget now where I read that but definitely happened

I don't think that Arabs have always pretty much hated Jews. I don't really know but Jews lived as smallish minorities in Arab countries for many yearswithout being hassled AFAIK. Read recently something about Arab protecting their Jewish neighbours from prosecution during the Nazi madness in WWII. Forget now where I read that but definitely happened

In all things media one rule rings true...consider the source.

An obscure palestinian right arab news source claim outrage that "leading" Israeli rabbis want extermination of palestinians....their source? An obscure far right jewish publication.

So two extremes trying to score points off eachother rolls eyes. And surprise surprise, the palestinian journos trying to stir up anti Israeli sentiment by sensational haeadlines. YAWN.

The truth, as always, lies somewhere completely different. We do not believe all the crap we read in the red tops do we? Presumably these two publications are not even in the same league as a red top, and cater, like the BNP publications, to people who already hold extreme views.

Do not believe everything you read.

Try looking on a decent news site - aljazeera or BBC world service are two that come to mind - for a less biased and better informed analysis of the situation.