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Shit, it's really kicking off in Egypt....

270 replies

headfairy · 28/01/2011 12:22

watching reuters footage coming in, they've got tear gas and the police are shooting protesters now. Bloody terrifying!

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slim22 · 02/02/2011 14:53

wonder what you'd say about fisking fisk?
informed or paranoid?
IMHO John simpson does have the best credentials as a foreign correspondent.
PS: I am however pleased to hear that that you are listening to local jouralists. Its about time. Ou should read Israeli newspapers too for a balanced "local" perspective. Yerodot and Haaretz

slim22 · 02/02/2011 14:55

sorry, late and apologies for typos.

BeenBeta · 02/02/2011 14:57

CNBC had an Egyptian reporter physically in the square about an hour ago on his mobile phone. The level of violence is extremely high. Dead and injured are being carried out.

No one is sure what is happening but some suggestions of police in plain clothes being bussed in and entering the square.

slim22 · 02/02/2011 15:06

Extremely scary.just spoke to a friend. Having cold sweats

MummieHunnie · 02/02/2011 15:33

BeenBeta, WHAT? NO!! The Egyptian protesters were so peacefull for a week! They army was onside!

DeOilyCart · 02/02/2011 16:17

I have heard through friends there that the police have been taking people away and shooting them in cold blood for a few days now. A friend's son was present when a student protester was shot in a police compound in front of his very eyes.

DeOilyCart · 02/02/2011 16:31

Serious clashes between demonstrators and pro-Mubarak crowds - see Al Jazeera live stream. The pro-democracy demonsrators have found gvt id cards on the pro-mubrak crowds, and have showed them to cameras. Obviously engineered by Mubarak and the police.

MummieHunnie · 02/02/2011 16:48

We just turned on sky news, there was one poor bloke on fire!

LittleMissHissyFit · 02/02/2011 16:57

This from an Alexandrian Police Officer, they were ordered back to duty today, in plain clothes.

They commandeered cars, private cars and since opening a prison, are going around the streets picking up people and chucking them in jail. No trial, no reason, just lifting them and locking them up.

Yesterday there were army patrols stopping anyone armed entering the square. Today pro-mubarak supporters, with professionally printed banners and posters, have been allowed in, no frisking, with daggers and knives.

Camels? In metropolitan Cairo? Only at the pyramids and Police camels.

Horses are wilfull buggers at the best of times. Camels take it to an artform. Egyptian Camels.... let's just say, they wouldn't be easily convinced of anything...

There is not a civilian horse on this earth, that would have gone into Tahrir square, and certainly not a camel. Camels are not easy to manoever at the best of times, under stress and at speed - to ride as those riders were riding today? ONLY Police/Army Camels..

Read this today - thought to share it Why it's wrong to believe Mubarak

Anderson Cooper/CNN said today from the square that there is no way this situation is not orchestrated by the regime.

LittleMissHissyFit · 02/02/2011 16:58

Sorry paid no attention to my spell check there, sorry if I made any mistakes...

Ripeberry · 02/02/2011 17:00

They are even lynching people and now attacking foreign people Sad

LittleMissHissyFit · 02/02/2011 17:03

Who is lynching, which foreign people are being attacked? by whom? Not by the pro-reformers, they were side by side with the protesters yesterday...

When this thing ends, and it will. When Freedom comes, cos it HAS to, nothing can stop it now, the Police and Army better realise that they are going to be at the beck and call of the people, going cap in hand for funds to a democratically elected government. It'll take decades for their reputations to be repaired.

MummieHunnie · 02/02/2011 17:04

You are right there were only camels by the pyramids, I never once saw a horse! When you posted earlier about professional signs and the police going missing again, I thought it may be the police, it must be horrific for the regular Egyptian!

I was thinking about those poor ragged clothed, kids that were after spare bits of tourists lunches, and I keep thinking of them and their little faces, and how people like that are going to survive now!

The press say that after everyone has met up on Friday a proper plan can be made, it looks like there is may be a dreadfull few days until then!

MummieHunnie · 02/02/2011 17:05

BBC news site reporting journo's being attacked a camerawoman, and some arrested and accused of being spies!

LittleMissHissyFit · 02/02/2011 17:20

Horses are used, certainly in Alex for Huntours, the carriages, and everywhere for transport of goods, they are the Ford Transit of Egypt.

MummieHunnie · 02/02/2011 17:23

I have been thinking about all those people who sell their nick nacks to now non existant tourists, what are the families of those working as coach drivers, people cooking in hotels, cleaning hotels, serving in restaurants, in shops etc. I have been thinking about the people in that office that Nice Guy has told us about, those normal average every day people who have no income and no job now as who is going to go to Egypt on holiday? What the hell are people and their families like that going to do now? I keep thinking of the real people that I have seen, those men seem so proud of their jobs and when you spoke to them they would tell you all about their families etc. How do people like that manage to live when things like this happen?

YakkinTosh · 02/02/2011 18:14

Some very interesting observations on the Guardian Live Feed - witness accounts of the police making preparation for inciting violence, equipping the pro-mubarak mob, and setting the streets on fire.

here

firstforthought · 02/02/2011 18:22

English speakers can watch live coverage Sky channel 514 Al Jazeera English (live stream not always good)

TwoIfBySea · 02/02/2011 18:30

LittleMiss, I think after 9 days of peaceful demonstrations it is probably very clear who is behind the attacks on the foreign press.

Desperately sad.

The protesters have held themselves with such dignity and respect.

firstforthought · 02/02/2011 19:20

what else can we do to help? Email of Ban - ki moon is [email protected] if you want to petition him.

MmeLindt · 02/02/2011 20:25

It is strange to read this, and see the reports on TV about the violence, when DH's colleague is telling us that everything is calm, and that it is only a small amount of protesters.

slim22 · 02/02/2011 21:15

Yes mrs lindt, same feedback here.
but very edgy. Imagine knowing your dh and teenage son out at night doing neighborhood watch in this atmosphere.

MmeLindt · 02/02/2011 21:40

Slim
Ah, I missed that you have family out there. God, you must be frantic.

DH's colleague was very relaxed, positive that it would all blow over soon and there was no danger to his family.

slim22 · 03/02/2011 00:23

No not my family, friends. Yes it's all for the best and with such vast crowds some violence was to be expected.
Same scenario as Tunisia. Mubarakka sent a little militia to stir it up and instill fear.

firstforthought · 03/02/2011 11:02

overnight clashes, mubaraks militia shooting people now. situation spiraling out of control..
protests were peaceful for 7 days whilst mubarak rounded up a few peeps he could pay to cause trouble/ hurt protesters.

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