goodbye Kate Moss (& good riddance)

[sansouci]

Kate's been dropped by H&M. She was filmed snorting coke.

i thought the swinging with jude law and sadie frost was old news?

HTTKOY?

Bugsy, by taking a job with H&M, she is automatically holding herself up as a role model.

Interesting discussion about role models. I think the issue is very similar to advertising - nobody is going to be affected by one person's behaviour, just as nobody (normal) is going to be affected by one ad.

But a range of behaviours (or ads) from a range of different sources, "normalises" behaviour and re-inforces a certain image.

yes but bugsy2, KM is a role model whether she wants to be one or not!

Can I just say that Hunker & Munker would like to apologise for any upset caused by dropping her from the ad campaign. She's got a fat arse, it's nothing to do with the coke thing.

Mum2Girls, Why by modelling clothing for a clothing store is she being a role model? Probably a very thick question but I don't get it.

anyone megafamous (although for what, exactly, in KM's case has never been that clear to me) and associated with pg mothers and children's clothing is an effing role model.

ie there is a chance, however remote, that little girls will model themselves on KM.

I disagree Sansouci. A role model for whom? Who is projecting Kate Moss as a role model?

I think most people are only influenced by her style not her personal habits

i started this thread after hearing on the beeb that km had been "caught" doing coke on film and would likely lose her contract with H&M as a result. nothing to do with tabloids.

Bugsy, she must be fairly business-savvy and even if she's not, her lawyers would surely make her aware that modelling for a shop that is frequented in the main by teenagers, will automatically make her a role model.

I mean, they hang huge photos of her up in their shops, which are saying 'hey all you spotty unkempt yoths, buy your clothes here and you will be buying a slice of me and my lfestyle'

That's the way advertising works.

I can't decide now whether to pity KM or feel repulsed by her. Taking drugs with some seedy smackhead in front of your own 2 year old child has got to be pretty vile by anyone's standards.Yet I also feel she must be very lonely and directionless.....just shows how money really doesn't bring happiness. So it won't matter if all those lucrative contracts are severed then!
On the question of whether she is a role model - she may not actively promote herself as one, but by virtue of what she does and where she appears, her target market is young girls and teens ( rimmel, h&m etc) so she becomes one.
On the question od drugs hurting/ not hurting anyone else but the user....get real. How many drug related murders are there worldwide every year? how much misery and poverty is created by drug use and dependency? even the occasional user of coke is responsible for doing their little bit in propping up the cartels in Colombia and elsewhere.Just because you are at the end of the chain does not mean you are not a link.

The media is, to young women.

Kate is talked about with approval by young women's mags

"she doesn't let motherhood cramp her style" etc.

That sort of message is being rammed down young women's throats (motherhood is boring - avoid it for as long as poss and when it does happen, don't change your behaviour, otherwise you'll be a boring old bat - do like Kate and keep on partying)

It's not La Mosses fault that they choose her to represent the zeitgeist, but there's no denying that she is a role model of sorts, whether she wants to be one or not.

Am i the only one who understands that KM is a role model, no matter whether she wants to be one, or we think of her as one, whether she is a good role model, a bad role model, a normal role model...

oh, i give up. never mind. let's go back to slow cookery.

It would seem to me that the media have alot to answer for here.