goodbye Kate Moss (& good riddance)

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Kate's been dropped by H&M. She was filmed snorting coke.

No recreational drugs here - not even a fag.

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gglimpopo, would they automatically go onto the at-risk register, though, if there was evidence that they were using? (albeit maybe not "in front of the kids")

Actually, I'd love to post that 'my body is my temple' but in all honesty, it closer to 'my body is my sack of tatties'

Paula Yates crossed my mind as well, gggl.

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interesting, ggg.

ggglimpopo - isn't that supposed to be confidential information?

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Not realy sure what i think about re media on this so will spout some random thoughts.

I suppose it is where we draw the line as to what we should know and what we shouldn't. If KM were a child abuser would we have a right to know . As we have already seen from this thread there is a huge difference between what we all think is acceptable behaviour and thus what we feel we have a right to know.

In some respects i suppose the question the press is posing is-'should she be a role model? YOu are right it was fine before we all 'knew what she was doing - however the point is she was still doing it and in the full sense of the word was not a good role model as a result whether or not we knew about it.

One part of me says if you are famous to some extent you take on a responsibilty to your fans and behave accordingly. That said you do not automatically loose the right to live as you please. But neither can you expect to live without intrusion.

So anyway after all of my circular discussion and inconclusive argument - the question I would ask is - do we have a right to know anything about anyone? If so What? If not, why?

I have one question - what would the world look like if there was no sex, drugs and rock and roll?

it would be full of people who think that norman tebbitt is ace.

monkeytrousers - like the Isle of Wight

drugs are at the root of 80% of all crimes committed mt

But not IoW festival

no-one from the IoW has ever been to the IoW festival
fact

ggg you can add me to the list of mumsnetters who have never done any drugs, not even smoking and I haven't had booze in the past few years. I saw how quickly drugs could destroy really good friends of mine and that was enough for me never to be interested ever.

If that makes me boring then so be it but rather that than loose everything important to me. I know that social services don't automatically take the children but I think it ridiculous that something extreme needs to happen before they do. The neighbours I mentioned, their dd1 gave their then 3 month old dd2 a "tablet" resulting in them being taken away for a few months. Tellingly when the paramedic took the little horribly lifeless body into the ambulance the mother had prescence of mind to pop back in the house for her ciggies. Drugs make the user selfish and that is why their children suffer.

I guess KM is counting the cost now that she is getting dropped by the labels.

Does that include alcohol Bundle? I'm not trying to be funny really (for once) but these drugs are a part of life for many people and have been for centuries, nay millennia. People like they way they make them feel. It gives them a high, just like booze.

Kate Moss shouldn't be a role model for young people because she takes drugs but because the whole industry she stands for is a moral cesspit. If she needs to bury herself up to her ears in drugs to get through the day then that's her problem. The rest of us are lucky if we can afford a weekend away once a year to get off our tits and shag each other senseless and she gets to do it every week...how shallow! It?s not a life anyone with a child should be living, but that?s a slightly different issue to what?s being discussed here.

Seriously though, I doubt any more kids will take drugs than are going to already. It's a rite of passage for many kids and the majority will come out of the other side having learned something and grown up a bit. Others do get swamped by it, it's true. There's no way to stop that from happening as there's no way to get people to learn from someone else?s mistakes no matter how much we harp on at them. We can just try to inform them of the choices they have and be there for them if they mess up.

no, mt, that's burglary, car crime, muggings etc committed every few seconds to fund crack (etc) addictions. man who burgled my friend's home was stupid enough to phone his dad (in northeast, we live in london) on her mobile that he nicked.

The AA will tell you that addiction is addiction whatever the substance. Addiction makes people desperate and desperately callous and selfish, but that covers the whole spectrum of addictive drugs including alcohol and prescription drugs. I'm not defending illegal drugs cos I think they're great and babies should have them, just that there is a hypocrisy at the heart of any debate about drugs when it tries to be said that some are worse than others (leaving out crack cocaine and heroin which are in a league of their own)..Right, some don't contribute to the economy the way tobacco and alcohol do basically. Governments would love to legalise these drugs and get the duty, it's just not a vote winner as the debate is so woolly.

agree, mt, but that's a whole separate issue. the impact of alcohol on society is constantly underplayed