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Teachers' salaries, qualifications and sick leave to be published

156 replies

tethersend · 08/11/2010 22:46

Here

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BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:03

Contextualised value added educational achievement (rather than raw outcomes) is most influenced by:

quality of teaching
quality of formative marking
something else which I have forgotten

BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:03

Pointy - because I have nothing to hide perhaps?

bettymoody · 10/11/2010 19:04

..good memory? Wink

BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:04

:)

wonderstuff · 10/11/2010 19:05

Yes but when they give us -all pay cuts-- remove the national pay scales and give heads the power to decide what we get paid you won't know.

wonderstuff · 10/11/2010 19:06

Darn, nearly worked Confused

bettymoody · 10/11/2010 19:06

£2.30

TheFallenMadonna · 10/11/2010 19:07

I mean the educational achievement of the teacher and the quality of their teaching.

pointydog · 10/11/2010 19:08

Me: a 3rd
£50k
Sick leave: four months 3 days

pointydog · 10/11/2010 19:09

oh, I see! har

bettymoody · 10/11/2010 19:09

oh very little i think .
specially if degree result was abberation
god i haev seen some FUCKING dull teachers you wouldnt talk to at a party forlonger than 3 minutes, let alone engage your kids for a year.

Why they let instrinsically dull people train i dont know.
Ones whose voices drooooone on, who arent animated, funny, or imaginative
GODONLYKNOWS

TheFallenMadonna · 10/11/2010 19:11

God yes. It should be one of the Q standards or whatever they're called.

bettymoody · 10/11/2010 19:12

" can you tell a story in a funny and engaging way raising and lowering your voice and mentioning ONE thing about popular culture"

TheFallenMadonna · 10/11/2010 19:17

I was saved by MN today re popular culture, because there was a thread last night about Black Ops, so when my year 11s asked me whether I knew what they were talking about, I did. They were Shock

BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:21

Sorry Pointy - I wasn't implying that others did have something to hide. Ignore me - am feeling crap.

moondog · 10/11/2010 19:22

'contextualised value added educational achievement'

BG are you seriously able to articulate claptrap like this and keep a straight face?

bettymoody · 10/11/2010 19:22

her post was tongue in cheek

BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:23

Clearly I am Moondog because I am completely poker-faced at your comments tonight. It must be so lovely in that bubble.

londonone · 10/11/2010 19:25

moondog - do you believe that the context of educational achievement is irrelevant?

pointydog · 10/11/2010 19:28

s'ok ghoul. Am only joshing.

pointydog · 10/11/2010 19:31

ghoul, you get yourself away from the thread, lady. No good will come of this. There's no intelligence behind these sorts of comments.

moondog · 10/11/2010 19:34

I don't blame teachers who are below par. The fault lies with their poor training, particularly in the fields of literacy and numeracy and what you might term 'SEN' (but what is actually the result of poor teaching.) Training courses are dominated by peopel expounding woolly theories as opposed to people who know much about evidence based practice.

Also, teachers are expected to be social workers and solve society's ills which is ridiculous.

BelligerentGhoul · 10/11/2010 19:34

You are right. We've had OFSTED; I'm knackered; I need to go to bed! Wanders off shaking head again. Thanks Pointy. :)

BoneyBackJefferson · 10/11/2010 19:35

moondog Tue 09-Nov-10 21:07:27

"Performance related pay?
Fantastic.
Bring it on.
I look forward to the culling.

I'd love to be in a job where I was paid according to what I deliver."

come teach bottom set year 11.

moondog · 10/11/2010 19:36

I'd love to teach and I'd love best of all to teach kids performing poorly in reading.