Teachers' salaries, qualifications and sick leave to be published

[tethersend]

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yes - the ones who have jobs already and dont want whatever you are teaching, or whose parents condone their 68% attendance rate, or who in fact have CANCER and can onl come in on days when they dont feel like vomiting.

Moondog you've posted before that you don't belive that dyslexia exists -just poor teaching. Do you still believe that?

Why don't you teach moondog.

I would have no real problem with the info being published both as a parent and a teacher.

she better tell my db whos is paying about 20 per year for his HIGHLY intelligent son to have a reading age of 8 at 11y

So md dyslexia, aspergers, muscular dystrophy, developmental delay, spina bifda, selective mutism, 'child protection issues', looked after children.. I could go on, those children don't have special educational needs? They would be just fine if only the teachers were better trained? Wouldn't need any extra help or support? All the children from special schools could really function in mainstream if the teaching was better?

Well moondog I teach the ones who perform poorly in reading (well some of them, there are so many at our school) and some come on leaps and bounds with the right support, some have poor reading because their primary attendance was so poor. Some, by the time I get to them are totally switched off and just don't engage. The most severly dyslexic will just never read fluently, they make painfully slow progress. It isn't all about poor teaching.

qualifications -well most teachers have degree plus pgce and sometimes masters. No problem with my qualifications being published.

Sickness? No thanks! I don't want the whole world knowing about the non-work related depression which resulted in a leave of absence and could have happened to anyone. Nor do I wish the time of my miscarriage to become public knowledge. This is private information and I have a right to privacy. Neither of those events make me a bad teacher. They were just very sad occurences in my life. I expect my medical information to remain confidential between me and the education authority.

I have worked in schools where teachers have been employed who are not qualified and I think parents should know.

there is a big difference between not having qts and not being qualified

But would you like to teach reading to the ones who are performing badly in reading. Or would you like to teach them Science? Because that's what we do in my job.

We have some excellent, indeed outstanding unqualified teachers in my school. They are of course well qualified in their own field, if lacking QTS. Parents know they are good teachers.

Or do you mean people teaching outside their specialisms?

I think this is an appalling idea in terms of publishing sick leave and pay. What business of mine is it where a teacher happens to lie on the national pay scale? And how intrusive to have sick record published.

NOt sure why this is OK for teachers - why pick on them? You won't find many other professions where salaries and sick records are suggested to be publicised.

exactly pooka - what about GP's etc

I mean I have worked in schools where there has not been the budget to pay for proper staff and OR they have not been able to attract staff to teach kids that difficult. So they employ someone who is just out of uni beause they can pay them 15K and it is kept quiet that the person cannot teach, is not that interested in teaching and will probably bugger off in a few months after the kids have driven her to a breakdown and the cycle starts again.

I really do not care if people know how much I earn or tbh if I have a day off sick - although they are not going to name individuals. I can't see the point in doing it. As others have said I already know my dd hardly sees her primary teacher - having that confirmed in writing makes no difference to me. I cannot change schools. I aready know my dd primary school teacher is ineffective and has taught her very little other than how to dodge bullies - infact I have taught her that. Again having it confirmed in writing changes nothing - unless it forces the head to take action.

There appeared to be no plans to disclose the salaries of other public sector workers, such as policemen or nurses....The document spells out Coalition plans to reform the central contract dictating teachers' pay and conditions, giving individual schools more power to alter staff salaries. Will they give individual police forces or PCTs the power to alter policemens or nurses or doctors salaries? I don't imagine so.. Do we think salaries will go up or down on average?

here we go again...oh how we laughed and laughed in the staff room at this latest "good idea".

i agree with tethersend, i suspect it is the start of PRP. It will not improve anything for anyone who is a teacher, a pupil or a parent. wonderstuff, i suspect salaries will go down on average and i suspect this will start as our pay freeze comes to an end in a few years time.

I am sure there are people who do get throught this term without getting sick enough to stay off work, most teachers do infact.

WHoever it was that said that they wee a teacher and were being paid £16K. Seriously?. Surely teaching is better paid than that, even at the bottom of the scale? If not then that's bloody ridiculous. These are the people tasked with educating the next generation, that surely needs a LIVING WAGE to do so? There's no way a teacher in my area could afford to even rent a one-bed flat on a wage like that. Please tell me that my dc's teachers (one was an NQT 3 yrs ago) are paid more than that?!

were not wee!

I think that if they were qualified then it must have been a pt wage Loudlass I'm on £18.5k but thats because I work three days a week would be about £32 if I was ft. here

I have nicked this from another poster as I cannot put it better myself

"Thoroughly ridiculous. You could have a first class degree, attend no end of courses and never have a day off sick and yet be the shittest teacher alive."

A teacher starts on £21,588

State school require qualified teachers- many Indeoendent schools do not.

You can be unqualified in a state school under an exceptional set of circumstances if the post is unable to be filled by a qts and then an u qualified teacher can act. This should never happen at primary-at secondary it should be very temporary.

The poster on £16k was on a 0.6 timetable, so not a full time teacher.