Teachers' salaries, qualifications and sick leave to be published

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Why did you put 'ill' in quotes moondog?
Did you think your child's teacher was moonlighting, or lying about her illness?
Or wasn't it a real illness in your eyes?

:) @ Mamo

I should imagine our infant schools "sick" statistics looked pretty bad the last few years. About 1/2 of the female teachers have had at least one baby in that time, and I know some of them didn't have straightforward pregnancies so had to take time off.

Mind it's managed well at the school (helped by tthe fact I think that there are 6 classes in the school - and 9 qualified teachers (4 are part time), plus I've known the head to step in when needed for a lesson or two as well. So "supply" teachers are rarely used.

This is the Coalition preparing to introduce performance related pay IMO.

They are looking to get rid of teachers' payscales and allow schools to set their own salaries- which will be published along with sick leave and qualification data. You don't need a degree to see where that one's going.

Performance related pay?
Fantastic.
Bring it on.
I look forward to the culling.

I'd love to be in a job where I was paid according to what I deliver.

Performance-related pay? Like in a sausage factory?
Can we have a veto over the quality of the initial ingredients and suppliers then?

"Can we have a veto over the quality of the initial ingredients and suppliers then?"

Love it.

moondog- you know about measuring. What will be an accurate measure of teachers' performance?

What will be the measurable criteria for success?

Moondog, I'm sensing some hostility towards the profession...

lol can we start rejecting the kids if we can't make them into decent sausages?

Maybe different as I am in Scotland but our salaries are widely available on t'internet- free to anyone who wishes to google, can't see why a Govt team would be needed...

You can google teachers' salaries in England, no problem.
What you might find harder to access is what point on the scale Mrs Tick in your school is at.

Caz, you joke, but with more schools able to set their own admissions criteria by becoming academies, they most certainly will be able to reject kids who can't be made into decent sausages.

Teachers already have performance related pay scales.

Many schools, esp at secondary, already list teachings quals in their prospectus. Nowadays most teachers will have a degree and a PGCS, and will have QTS, Even with firther info they really are unlikely to publish full qualifications and career background, neither should they. the basics showing they are a fully qualified teacher should be sufficient.

Sick leave as a general for a school - fair enough. Forr individual teachers - no. Had I still ben teaching (am now a TA) int he past few years I have had a lot of sick leave. Most of it was for the same, personal reason - linked to infertility, but more than just fertility IYSWI and caused by a previous c section. I was then off for 7 weeks at the beg of this year with a nasty case of pneumonia that wouldn't clear. Should my medical health really be up for scurtiny? Shuld I be in a position to have to explain that to parents? Surely if my school and LEA are satisfied with the reasons for my sick leave that should be enough for parents.

Well, if it's good enough for the independent sector...

The payscale will become a thing of the past if all goes to plan I think, Goblin.

Oh God, I'll have to start moonlighting as a lapdancer..and wear make up.

Thanks for the tip Tether (and adding a suitable note of levity to proceedings.)

Re measuring, I could tell ya but having spent hours today discussing this, brain is fried.

Academies??
Bring them on to.Fantastic.
I'd be the 1st in line to get my kid in.

Don't fall for all that socialist claptrap.

Keep everything shit and everyone crap.

Are the Academies an academic triumph then?

Hell I've nothing to hide;

2:1 BA in Primary Education, with Qualified Teacher Status

Salary: Main Pay Scale Point 4, (0.6) works out about £16k

Sick Days last academic year: 3 - Pregnancy Related Illness.

I don't really care about where teachers trained or how many sick days they had off. I hope a headteacher can spot a bad teacher a mile away and if a teacher is not doing their job they should be retrained and then fired if they still can't get with the program. If the headteacher can't manage their school ofsted normally picks up on it pretty quickly. I don't see how making this sort of information public adds value.

On the otherhand I wish they would publish where doctors trained and when they qualified.

"I'd be the 1st in line to get my kid in"

But your kid is likely to be rejected if there are SEN issues likely to lower the school's GCSE pass rate and position in the league tables...

Well best hope your kids don't have any additional needs or SEN then Moondog as IME many Academies won't consider themselves a "suitable" placement for your child.

PS Salary and sick/parental leave for the past three years if you don't mind.

Aah we don't have the threat of academies - but little would-be private school sausages are certainly rejected all the time.

I see your point re points on the payscale - but can't see why parents would care much!

3 years?! Now your asking, can I even remember?