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The Hoarders Anonymous Thread #7. Keep On Keeping On!

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Solo · 10/10/2022 22:04

We are a mixed group of likeminded householders that are leading somewhat challenging lives; be that living with too much 'stuff' that we find difficult to deal with, houses that are falling apart (mine included), health issues within the family unit, wider family, or ourselves (myself included) that means sorting out our households is challenging, to say the least. So...

You are all welcome to join us for support, adding your own ideas to help others out, storage ideas, and even tips on actually getting those items out of the house which sounds so simple when you say it, but this part can be so very difficult; we are often attached emotionally to our 'things', afraid of letting things go just in case we need them.
Encouragement and support abound here, and we do not criticise. EVER! We even try not to criticise ourselves as it's not helpful to anyone, but this can be very difficult not to do.

If you are feeling overwhelmed by clutter, mess, disorganisation and generally don't know where to start. If you can't be bothered, but really do want to be bothered. If you think you are a bit lazy, or if you just need to see your highs and lows and everything in between on the screen here, join us, and we will help you. We'll virtually high-five your achievements - small or large, and virtually hug you when the need arises, and if you want a hug, just ask because we are here for you, here for one another because we get it. The art of washing up is sometimes our great achievement of the day, but it's still an achievement.

Welcome to thread #7 of Hoarders Anonymous - Keep On Keeping On!

Thread #6 HERE

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TalkToTheHand123 · 01/08/2023 23:40

Hi all. Went to the recycling centre this afternoon and got rid of a few electricals including a toy quad bike. Done a bit of washing too so quite pleased.

Won't have much time over the next few days for tidying so just try not to make any more mess and keep on top of the dishes!

Miaowse · 02/08/2023 07:30

Well done to everyone who is making progress! None to report here.

moonshaped · 02/08/2023 11:14

I've a furniture collection service coming tomorrow to take stuff away. Need to clear up so there's a pathway to the door....bought heaps of plastic crates to use for packing. Yet to start packing. Presently doing chore avoidance, so much change in a short time

BlueSummerBaby · 02/08/2023 14:42

I've been working on the entrance hall on and off for weeks. It's sorted now, all tidy, space efficiently used, all clean. With the improved space I brought some things from another room that belonged in the entrance hall but there was no room for them, well now there is so this has freed up space in another room. This space won't be used for anything, it was an overly cluttered area and is looking a lot less cluttered now

BlueSummerBaby · 02/08/2023 14:45

I'm also still working on the other room I mentioned before. I've cleared up the fire hazard obstacle course in the hallway and that stack is now re stacked where it belongs, having been gone through and decluttered. I have to do this same procedure twice more for that room

AussieKoala01 · 03/08/2023 02:26

A big well done! to everyone's progress, not much to report here im afraid.
I've made a start on decluttering toys, but my beautiful tornado of a DS is making it very difficult to feel on top of things this week.
So, currently outside in the garden enjoying some sunshine and breathing very deeply!!!!

Elleherd · 03/08/2023 12:04

Well done to all who are making progress or holding back the tide!
Sympathy, strength and energy to those who aren’t.

Last few days: continuation of x steps forward and y steps backwards.

Double launderette run accomplished. Most physical results of hosting friend back to how they were. A couple of displaced bookcase contents still not done.
Friend’s legal issues were got on top of while she was here, and she’s said she’s moving more, eating less junk food, and has started clearing up a bit at home, which makes the disruption of her visiting feel more worthwhile. And, the frazzling spiraling whats-apps and calls have stopped.

Best part of £150 worth of stamps registered and sent off. (Mainly unplanned hoarding as larger part of it from PO compensation paid in stamps.)
All photos, and formal complaint about unfinished work, done and sent.
A required In person identity check done.
More legal paperwork re situation with aunt completed, registered and posted.

Another couple of sacks of greenery removed from both mine and aunts’ gardens, but through the intermittent rain, sun, rain, I can almost watch it growing straight back!
Dropped ivy lopper pole from height, trapping toes between it and wheelchair paddle. Now have purple throbbing toes!

Did thorough assessment of how effective repairs I did on aunt’s flat are. Water’s still getting in somewhere and causing bits of plaster to blow, but I can’t see any evidence of dry rot re-growing which is really hopeful.
Frankly as long as it can be considered fit for habitation and enough repairs done to not lose tenancy, then remedial work can be done with her in situ.

Was working this out when a blooming mouse appeared! One of her cats looked at me with a total ‘whatever’ expression, the other didn’t even open its eyes! Have set humane traps and they’re being triggered, but can’t tell if it’s interested mice, or nosy cats!

Waiting for hospital call today. Been hiding on MN! The all clear results are apparently not quite as all clear. It never ends.

Stupidly got flashed doing 25 in 20mph zone. Praying for offer of expensive speed awareness course. Points may lead to disabled driver insurance being withdrawn or becoming unaffordable.

Very small handful of small items have gone in token effort towards getting back into disposal mode/stride... and breathe.

SingToTheSky · 04/08/2023 18:44

Hello fellow hoarders!!!

I haven’t posted in almost a year (and have name changed various times) but I have been slowly catching up on everyone’s posts in quiet moments, I wouldn’t usually do that but I was on the first few threads and this place feels like home even if I don’t “know” more recent posters. 🥰

I would normally be aiming (somewhat in vain) to try and declutter lots over summer - especially now I have a term time only job. But I don’t think much will happen because we are decorating the DCs’ bedrooms and that is such a bloody huge project.

I really haven’t done much decluttering at all since I last posted, other than the odd flurry of sorting Boxes of Random Crap and a few clothing purges. In September I got a promotion at work, which has been brilliant (my mental health and self esteem are hugely improved) but despite only increasing to 16 hours a week it is exhausting and I seem to have very little headspace for anything other than work and study. That coupled with DH having a lot less energy/motivation (for valid reasons, but our relationship is far from solid ATM) has meant the house is much more neglected - I wouldn’t feel comfortable having most people here anymore which is sad as that had really improved before.

Anyway now that I have caught up I’m hoping to at least “mentally declutter” when I can, whether that’s just deciding a few things to declutter (eg things I can’t get to yet) or digital decluttering etc. I do need to save most of my (also limited due to ME/fibromyalgia) energy for the decorating but I can’t let that be an excuse for entirely neglecting decluttering.

I am glad to be back and send virtual hugs to all! 💜

Elleherd · 07/08/2023 12:02

Waves to SingToTheSky 😀Good to see you! Welcome home, seat's still warm.

I found pre deciding mentally what I might get rid of when I was in hospital, really helpful when it came to actually doing it. There was less of the normal indecisiveness and fear of making a mistake.

As you got things to were you felt able to have most people over before, then having done it previously, while time and energy inevitably get in the way, hopefully it wont be too big a reach to get things back to that state again.

Very little to update here other than more greenery out of both gardens but still managing to grow as fast as it's cut back
No joy with mousetraps at aunts, but also no further sign of mice despite a bit of digging.
Copied all the materials needed and then cancelled a subscription that I can't justify any more.
Started dusting aunts where it's built up while I've not been working inside.🙄
Weekly laundry got done yesterday.
Workspace is more cleared. (but still can't complete with others work in way.)
More materials sorted out for September, and a little pre-work done.
Have rested foot a lot and bruising and swelling is going down which might inspire me to do more, but off to hospital clinic for most of today.

Elleherd · 09/08/2023 20:56

Between yesterday and today, five sacks of greenery out of my garden, one small sack of rubbish, and a carrier bags worth of recycling including an empty choclate box and wrappers that I'd held onto because it reminded me of being given the gift.😊

TalkToTheHand123 · 10/08/2023 22:57

Well done to the green fingers!

Sorted a few bags of clothes in the bedrooom while packing for holiday. There will be no progress / more mess / mess to view for two weeks from tomorrow 😂.

Elleherd · 11/08/2023 11:33

No green fingers I’m afraid, TalkToTheHand, just hacking away badly at two semi impenetrable jungles!

Well done sorting stuff while packing. Hope you have a lovely holiday and enjoy having a reasonably mess free fortnight! Hotels or caravan holidays are great for observing what space looks like, rather than stuff everywhere.

Hopefully I’m making the right choices by tackling the gardens now and not just finding another way to procrastinate!
The theory's based on weather predictions say now's my best chance to attack the serious overgrowth at both mine and aunts, as I can be working inside when its wet or been recently raining. (My wheels don't turn on wet earth/grass.)

The rain apparently may return later today. Cutting down gardens from a wheelchair means tackling it by first cutting access paths through the worst of it and then trying to do more from there.

Yesterday was another five sacks of greenery gone from mine, a sack of rubbish and a bag of recycling, but embarrassingly you still can’t see much difference.

Was hoping to get some done at aunts but arrived to unpleasant shock. Vandals pulled down a fence panel and seem to have spent a fair amount of time messing about unchallenged.
They'd taken bricks from top of a loose wall and used them to pelt her fruit trees. I assume to try and get the fruit to fall. They'd also taken a sack of builders sand for fixing the wall and chucked it everywhere. Her bench was moved, and take away stuff and vapes left all over the place. The cats thankfully appear fine, but I’m worried the idiots who did this may have realized there’s no one living there, even though I’ve got lights coming on and off on remote. I ended up doing repairs rather than cutting back garden.

Fixed fence, cleaned up sand, containers and vapes, and cut some of the damaged tree branches. Have managed to move the bench a little, but not back to where it was. It has to wait for help.

Did manage to barricade (the?) mouse into her kitchen with a board that hopefully it cant get over, after watching it calmly stroll past the cats, into the kitchen. Moved humane traps in there.

Miaowse · 11/08/2023 13:35

I have missed so much. My notifications had stopped. Hello to all, and welcome back SingToTheSky

How unsettling about the vandals Elleherd is it worth reporting to the police? It must feel like step forward, many steps back, but you are getting so much done!

I have done a bit of work on my garden too but it’s enraging, when I clear a section of weeds, my ndn’s horrible dog uses the soil as a toilet Angry

I keep stumbling across old photos that show points in time where my house was not quite so dire (even as recently as a year ago, though I expect the photo was carefully framed and the out of shot area was much more cluttered!).

I’m so disappointed in myself that I never manage to maintain progress, it slips back and each time seems to get worse than the previous worst. No motivation, in a terrible slump of inaction.

Enjoy your holiday TalkToTheHand123!

SingToTheSky · 12/08/2023 11:39

Hi all, thank you for the welcome back 💖

I have had a few wins this week. DC2&3’s room is much further on, once the floor went down I felt less overwhelmed. I am determined to make the storage really work in DC3’s half (we haven’t got the other two beds yet! But we have chosen them at least so that’s a worry off my mind too) so I’m taking my time on that. Most toys don’t live in that room anyway but the ones that are need to be easy to access AND put away. I’ve learned recently (from YouTube) that things need to be REALLY easy to put away or they just stay out. I found that fact really resonated!

The house is absolute chaos still but yesterday I went through all the youngest’s picture books and got rid of 107! 17 in recycling and the rest I dropped off at the charity shop (which meant I needed a taxi instead of a bus, but it was absolutely worth it to get them out of the house immediately). The rest of her books fit nicely into three Kallax squares (not crammed in, because again, needs to be easy to put away!).

Then I went through all her play food and got rid of a carrier bag full. Some was easy but other stuff I’d specifically spent ages choosing and was so excited about it. However it’s the sort with velcro, and some made with felt, and they’re a bugger to keep clean, everything sticks to them so they look scruffy. So they’re gone. Another YouTube nugget is that I don’t want to spend time maintaining things, they become a chore not a joy. Anyway DC3 was thrilled to have her food accessible (it’s been in baskets with a load of random crap in front of them for months) so I am really pleased with that.

I feel you on the frustration miaowse 💐 I have to really fight the feeling of “what’s the point because it all goes backwards” - hoping the new decorated rooms will make a difference but I’m dreading the huge amount of effort it’ll take to embed good habits in keeping it clean.

Enjoy your holiday talk hopefully it’ll give you renewed motivation when you come back feeling refreshed. I keep trying to think of our little holiday last month and remember how much calmer my youngest was in a nice clear caravan compared to our chaotic home.

Good luck with the ongoing garden maintenance elle 🌿

Elleherd · 12/08/2023 14:17

Miaowse I did eventually get through to 101 to be met with ‘just kids on school holidays.’ I wasn’t expecting much but they were beyond disinterested.

Sorry to hear neighbours dog. Very disheartening. Is it a fencing problem or are they unfenced gardens? I wonder if the dog isn’t taken out, it's at the heart of similar problems here.

The bottom of our fencing gets literally eaten away by their smaller dog, and the tops are now broken down by huge hefty one trying to pull itself over it. Both aren’t walked much and very bored. I tried putting coated wire mesh over holes which got enthusiastically chewed through, so now trying uncoated wire.
There’s still a huge tree trunk that came down from their garden and landed mainly in mine and my pathetic attempts at blocking the fencing gap. Constantly clearing up debris from their garden thrown into ours. It is disheartening but I know while it’s overgrown it’s just seen as fair game by everyone.
It's the same attitude over the water coming down the back wall from the flats above. Your place isn’t in great shape so it doesn’t matter what damage we do.

If I’m not careful it’s easy to internalize it as deserving it. I think about other people I’ve helped clear up and this has been done to them too.

I’m sorry you’re feeling low about progress. Flowers I really do get it. TBH I generally block out my previous failures for my sanity! It’s a battle I’ve been fighting a long time, and I do fear it will eventually win, but I know it will if I stop fighting it. So…
I don’t know if this is any use to you, but my strategy kit includes giving myself permission to not do things for x time/days, (especially when in too much pain) accepting procaffination as just part of the process, music, watching hoarding programs just beforehand, (surprisingly effective) seeking out easy wins, accountability here even when the lengths of my posts embarrass me, and sometimes just rather weary enforced self-discipline when absolutely zero motivation.
The fall backs here are: Every day is actually the first day of the rest of our lives. & Motivation follows action. (eventually!)

SingToTheSky Well done on evicting stuff! 107 books in one hit is a lot!
Thank you for the YouTube nuggets. The really easy to put away really resonates here too. Along with for us, easy to see still if possible. Another reason for things not getting put away here is adult Ds can never remember where things are if he can’t see them no matter what systems we try to create. It creates another reason for multiples of things being brought in, which used to ‘only’ occur previously because things where in storage! I’ve found embedding habits in myself is plausible, apparently embedding them in others is much harder!

Yesterday was a token inside job of sorting out the beginning of wallpaper b peeling in the kitchen before it got worse and getting a missing aerosol can cap into the box the can is in, if not actually onto it! A mega eight sacks off greenery out, and one smaller bag of rubbish. Feeling a bit guilty that I’m rather hogging available disposal systems, but it feels like needs must when the devil drives.
Today is more back breaking outside.

moonshaped · 12/08/2023 15:01

Hello everyone
packing up here ready for the building work. I'm finding it very difficult, my organisational skills really tested I seem to need a break every 5 minutes. I just don't know what to do next, am surrounded by boxes and detritus and random stuff that I don't know what to do with. I can see why people get packers when they move, I feel defeated

Miaowse · 12/08/2023 20:04

Thank you for the flowers, motivational tips and empathy Flowers this is such a lovely thread.

It’s a front garden and not really possible to fence off unfortunately. I don’t think it gets taken out for many walks but their garden is pretty big and it seems to roam freely.

Oh moonshaped it has been very many years since I last had to pack up a house, but I remember the horror. By the end you might find yourself just chucking stuff so you don’t have to pack it. One of the few times I became temporarily ruthless. Good luck! Are you fully moving out while the work is done or do you just need to clear one or two rooms?

Elleherd I can’t believe the police were so dismissive Angry I really hope you have no more trouble. 8 sacks of greenery is incredible! The stuff grows so fast especially with the mixed rainy/sunny weather we’ve been having.

107 books out must have made a huge difference for ease of putting away SingToTheSky Star
I think we’ve talked about book collections before on a previous thread - we have so many bookcases double stacked and wicker baskets of books and random piles of books. I’ve got rid of tons of mine but can’t let go of children’s ones just yet.

AussieKoala01 I always have grand plans but never get much accomplished in the school holidays. Then school starts and I still don’t seem to have the time. Enjoy the sun and your beautiful tornado!

Elleherd · 12/08/2023 20:49

Moonshaped you're bound to feel somewhat overwhelmed. It’s a big thing you’re doing.
Do you know what you don't want to pack up? Sometimes putting that to one side or even into boxes temporally (labelled!) can help.

For my sins I box up stuff in and out of storage quite often and am an over organized hoarder so hopefully something out of what follows might help. If not please just ignore.

Photographs, labels and lists are my friends, along with a special place to keep a folder of lists and important documents. Find a place where it lives for now, and stick to it. Regardless of it you make lists on a computer, or paper, photograph them. Whatever goes down there’s a good chance you’ll have your phone.

Apart from good boxes preferably the same size/s, Pound-land labels, brown tape, permanent marker, and colored felt tips are really helpful. Bubble wrap or lots of newspaper if possible. Label 2 corners of each box so that no matter which way round the box is placed, you can always see one of the labels. Bit of brown tape with a thick arrow, so boxes stay the right way up. (possibly a bigger deal when moving place)

Writing everything on labels and lists, feels slow, but it saves so much time and stress later. (please remind me to listen to myself!)

I also colour code categories on labels with felt tip pens. So all Kitchen stuff - yellow, Bedroom -pink, bathroom - blue, garden or plant related - green etc.

For most people packing rules are don't mix things from different rooms, but for some of us that doesn't work because things weren't in the right rooms in the first place, so IMO putting like with like is a far better method.

Think about weight ie if you have a lot of books etc, pack them up first so they are the bottom stack. This can cause issues if other things are in front of them, but although it’s double handling, sometimes just moving stuff out of the way, packing books, then putting the shifted stuff onto the shelves to make space, until you’re ready to allocate them to boxes, can work.

Clothes and bedding, if you’re expecting to still be packed up in late Autumn, think about what you’ll need then, and pack it together clearly labelled and kept near the top of any clothes/bedding stack. Hot water bottles/electric blanket, gloves, thicker socks, might want to go in this box too. You may want a specific box for tinned packet goods with short expiry dates.

If you have to use sacks, double bag contents and tape. They get damaged moving around.

One way of thinking about random stuff is what category does it go under?
So is it decorative, entertainment, specifically Christmas, deeply sentimental (the stuff you’d grab in a flood or fire) or spares and repairs, tools, maintenance, practical comfort (ie cushions, lamps, hangers) stationary, cleaning, household gadgets, projects, art, sewing, 'office,' gift box, possibly even donate box, etc.

Follow you’re heart rather than how you think a thing should be thought of, because that way it’s easier to retrace were you would have packed it.Ie: a framed photo might be decorative, but it may well actually belong in the deeply sentimental box.
A rubbish sack, and a recycling sack, close by always helps even if it’s just for old envelopes, or dead sticky tape.

Which room/cupboard/hall/corridor would each item live in if things were organized as you'd like them?
So you might well have an office area in your living room, and jewellery would probably live in the bedroom, but might go in the specials box, but hair care or sunscreen could be bedroom or bathroom, dependent on individual choice.
This way if you end up with smaller boxes on top of stacks, they will hopefully be correctly colour coded to the right room (as well as contents listed) regardless of category.

If you don’t have an office, shed, garage,or cupboard under the stairs, etc, for now imagine you do.
If you can’t decide on a category, maybe ask on here, or create a ‘totally random’ box. I hope all that makes some sense.

Elleherd · 12/08/2023 20:57

Miaowse don't know how true it is, but allegedly vinegar, cayenne pepper and chilli powder deter dogs from seeing a toileting place, along with citrus peel, lavender and rue. Have never tried tbh. (though have considered dog-napping for the sake of the pooches involved!)

Elleherd · 12/08/2023 21:08

Today's offering is another six sacks of greenery, and two small dead trees down, de branched, and reduced to thick poles.
Also managed to clean out the fridge, but
the cumulative pain, bites and prickles are beginning to be a bit much.

Miaowse · 12/08/2023 22:23

Top tips there, both to moonshaped & me, thank you Elleherd. Someone else recommended using hot spices, lord knows I have enough in the pantry, so might just give that a go…

I noticed earlier that a vicious wild rose (all thorn no flower) I hacked down to below soil level a month or two ago is now resprouting in various places - one shoot is about half a metre away from the main section but I’m sure it’s the same plant. I wish my purchased plants were half as vigorous!!

Elleherd · 14/08/2023 16:45

Miaowse how annoying to have roses that bite but dont flower. Any idea why? What succeeds and fails here seems random.
I may have the world’s most vigorous blackberries. They manage to form thickets across the ground and canopies in the trees if I so much as blink. Tbf they also provide huge amounts of large blackberries, but it’s a battle to stop them suffocating the raspberries out.

Yesterday saw laundry done, lots of clearing and three sacks of greenery out of aunt’s garden. Would have been more but ended up in a standoff with what I assume are the lot that damaged her garden before. They’d shoved the fence panel down again and made themselves at home when I arrived. Also pulled up and been chucking bits of garden edging board at her fruit trees.
Ran off laughing when disturbed, so I put the panel back in and started work intending to put wedges in later. Heard noises a couple of hours later and realized the fence panel was being levered out, and got to it in time for two teenage girls to just push their way in past me. Cheeky pair were visibly paradng a joint, and I only got them out after they’d taken themselves to the end of the garden to see if their mates were there! Me saying they weren’t there, and that they were trespassing was apparently irrelevant! Reported again to 101.

The plan to lure the mouse trapped in aunt’s kitchen into a humane trap hasn’t worked. It’s simply gone up to the board blocking it’s exit and chomped a hole in the skirting board dragging out lots of fluff and plaster and I assume, disappeared behind it!

When I got home, I decided removing all ripe fruit from aunts garden might be sensible, and designated today a cooking day.
So, moved plastic storage units out of our kitchen temporally and gave kitchen an extra clean. Then went out back and harvested all my fruit, veg, and herbs that looked ready.
Dug over courgette, dandelion, and spud beds, and cleaned vacated dandelion pipes. Unfortunately, some of the wood on the beds desperately needs replacing but will have to wait, and discovered big plastic greenhouse has developed it’s first hole. (repaired)

This morning went to aunts (all ok) and harvested all the ripe or nearly fruit (apart from blackberries which I can’t get to) brought it home.
Looked at weather and decided idiots probably wouldn't be hanging out in the wet, and cropped lots of mine and the rest of my veg and herbs that looked ready enough. Also collected seed heads, just before the heavens opened.

Kitchen is currently a factory and I’m exhausted already (hence the break!) but feeling quite virtuous.

Large quantity of jars and bottles sterilised, and today’s been and still being, spent cooking chutney, sauces, and bottling a fair amount of blackberries, raspberries, plums, damsons, rose hips, apples, courgettes, tomatoes, spuds, beetroot, garlic, shallots, dandelions, mint, rosemary and lavender. Hopefully it’s all going to really help over winter and aunt will appreciate her cut.

Lots of other things were planted, but they’ve not been as successful. Well apart from the cabbages which did well but got enthusiastically gobbled by cabbage white butterflies!

Elleherd · 15/08/2023 08:34

Putting this here to try and settle myself and to be able to reread the next time I go into sudden overdrive and find myself questioning my direction.

Poor nights sleep and feeling weirdly unsure about yesterdays actionss.
By the time dinner got factored in I didn’t actually stop until midnight and got up extra early this morning to finish the worst. Very mixed feelings.
Really pleased and a strange sense of relief to see and have so much food stocked, and earlier in the season than normal, meaning there’s a potential for more. But part of me is worried about it and the compulsiveness behind it.

Food is always needed. It will all get used, and acts both as basic food security and some of it as adding a bit of luxury to life. Some of it sorts out Christmas.
The jars and bottles were already taking up space, they’re now just earning their right to it better. So far so good.

But the decision to do it all early, was driven by wanting what was going on in aunts garden to stop. I justified doing it yesterday because it was going to rain, bringing reducing overgrowth in both mine and aunts garden to a halt.
But thinking it through, now I'm unsure if the fruit was what drew teens in, and if it was, whether it was part of the reason they were still coming.
Also wondering if suddenly stopping pushing myself to cut back the gardens is why I'm suddenly questioning what I maybe should have been doing yesterday.

A suspicion that this is all driven by hoarding behaviors and unsure if I’m sensibly channeling it, or effectively feeding it and encouraging my poor behaviors!

Am going to take the filter out of the wet and dry hoover and thoroughly clean it out – a horrid dusty job, then have a bath and try and restart my day!

TalkToTheHand123 · 18/08/2023 14:20

Hi all. Hotel room getting a bit of a mess 😯 so going to try tidy before dinner later.

Elleherd · 21/08/2023 13:52

TalkToTheHand Hope you got your hotel room back to order.

Last week's been on and off all over the place. I got a little bit of much needed temporary work which has kept me busy. Too many hours for the money, but every little is needed right now.
Have been dropping in at aunts regularly, trying to break teenagers nasty habits, and had a couple of run ins with them, but apart from rubbish and the fence, no more vandalism at least. Fingers crossed that now they know they're likely to be disturbed, they'll find somewhere else.
No signs of activity from mouse that went into the wall. Hopefully it's left the building, though that seems too good to be true.

Managed a dump run yesterday to get rid of a satellite dish, large metal tube and a 2 mtr long thin box from here, and hit Wilko's to buy up some reduced seeds.
Just need to stop procrastinating now and get out in the garden. It's only been a week but it's managed quite a bit of regrowth.