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Fledglings flutter round the May Pole – FlyLady May 2015

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Greymalkin · 30/04/2015 12:46

First of all, a big thank you to Dogsbum for leading us (for the very first time) through the April thread; fantastic job!

If you are struggling with C.H.A.O.S. (Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (Something That Undermines Family Fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and chat along the way.

The FlyLady link is here Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound!

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in zones of the house which are designated weekly; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with loads more time to do something more interesting instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again!

It's up to you, but we advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 minutes a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.
  • And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.

There are three key points to keep in mind throughout:

  • No perfectionism allowed - this is harder than you would imagine and many of us on this thread struggle with this one!
  • You are never behind - just start where you are and anything you do is progress.
  • It didn't get into a mess overnight, it won't get tidy over night - accept it will take time to get on top of things and you will be happier.

If you are new; then trying to spend 15mins decluttering daily and doing the babysteps is a good way to start. Some of us (mentioning no names!) can have scary looking ‘ta-da’ lists but don't let that worry you! Do what you can, anything is better than nothing, and don't judge yourself against others.

If all else fails, a Brew + the power of three technique + a bit of support on here can work wonders!

Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings.

Don’t let it put you off if we appear a bit cliquey, we really aren’t! Some of us have been on here for years – but all lurkers, intermittent returnees, oldies and newcomers very, very welcome

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ToffeeWhirl · 24/05/2015 11:02

Morning, ellie. Have a lovely Flying-free holiday Smile.

Woke up at 6am - very annoying as I could have had a lie in. At least I was able to put the washing on early and hang it outside. Also did a long 'to do' list for next week.

Meant to be going out for a country walk with friends today, but waiting for the phone call or text to confirm.

Hope you all have a relaxing Sunday.

Steadycampaign · 24/05/2015 11:08

[SC tiptoes in to thread sporting slippers lightly dusted with icing sugar] The entire household is sleeping, except for me and the dog who has just enjoyed a bit of quality time curled up on a blanket in the sunshine on the terrace (alongside me drinking tea on a bench) whilst looking mournfully at my breakfast.

DD is exhausted from school fete yesterday (I love the way pre-teens run around excitedly creating mini-dramas about lost bits of costume, or people who haven't turned up yet, get in to huddles, then run around again, then come over to you and explain the situation excitedly with great urgency and great relish without waiting for a reply, then rush off with their friends again ... for five hours Grin Grin Grin)

Dh is completely whacked having very nobly done 7 round trips to school yesterday ferrying balloons, drinks, cakes, and various people.

Everything went really well though (last one at this school so quite sad [dabs corner of eye with handkerchief] ) and much fun was had by all (and hopefully lots of money raised). Rested my stumps at home afterwards watching a bit of Eurovision but gave up half way through and went to bed!

Friday was fairly challenging with last minute fabric buying and sewing to do plus the making of 68 portions of cake, + managed four loads of washing + cooked healthy supper as felt we all needed a vitamin boost.

House was a complete tip when we got home last night. I've done the first clear up of downstairs this morning ie mopping up of blobs of glacé icing sugar and stray cake crumbs etc off the floor combined with clearing away last night's takeaway and bits of fabric and cotton from last minute costume making, stacking the dishwasher, loading the recycling, tidying up stray cups and plates and chucking away rubbish and any general surface detritus.

Still have to do bits of hand washing up, a load of ironing for next week and general planning for another mega weekend next weekend and houseful of Confirmation guests. Plus it's a holiday here tomorrow.

But really want to sort boudoir today (or make significant in-roads) if I have the energy/time.

Thanks for links Grey [chucks half a pkt of custard creams at Dragon scratches his scales nonchalantly and sends him to track down Bless among her pile of statistical analysis books ]

Dogsbum enjoy your chaise longue Smile.

Yes, we are starting to feel a bit iffy about previous owners too tbh. (Regretting the baby presents and thank you letters we sent them with photos about a fortnight after his arrival!)

If I'd known then what I know I would have sent them a very different letter I think because the dog arrived in what appeared to be fairly good nick, but on closer investigation, his condition was obviously not good, he'd obviously had a very dubious start in life and has been neglected since. We realise now that he had been taken to a grooming parlour just before we got him (he smelt of some sort of scented soap) which masked some of the signs of neglect but couldn't hide the long-term maintenance issues such as ears and teeth and, most importantly, under-feeding and neglect to administer mandatory injections etc.

The trainer made the rather chilling observation that some people under-feed dogs to diminish their energy and make them more amenable/controllable.

Furry one is definitely a bit bouncier, a bit more barky now he is filling out, and we had another unfortunate agression/guarding incident the other night when he nipped my hand (didn't break skin, tiny pinprick but still) when I tried to move him off the sofa in playroom and in to his bed in hall when we were all going upstairs to sleep. Spoke to trainer about it the next day and she explained how to overcome this and said that dogs who have been mistreated and underfed often become very territorial over the things they do have. Cannot risk this behaviour developing though with dd and her friends in the house and we often have very young dc here too, so absolutely cannot take any chances.

(I'm making the dog sound really awful here - he isn't - he is incredibly friendly 99.9% of the time. We just have to be very, very cautious with how we handle him, particularly so because of his high intelligence.)

To be fair to previous owners though, if they had been thoroughly unscrupulous, they could have charged us for him (teckels fetch about Euros 425 here) but gave him to us free. (I know, I know, we were hugely naieve too!)

Also to be fair, the male half of the couple seemed genuinely sad to see him go, (the wife not so much) - there was a second marriage situation with new baby. Life situations change unexpectedly so one shouldn't judge really. And we are in this for the long haul now (and anticipated and expected problems) so it makes no difference. But I still don't understand why they would underfeed him or neglect his veterinary care though, one never knows, but they certainly didn't seem impoverished in any way. It's all a bit of a mystery... like with your sister's dog Swan. If only they could talk eh?

And trainer does think that there is hope btw, just that it will take a lot of time and patience - and family consistency - which is more of a challenge where dh is concerned tbh!!

Swan Grin at silent, gesture-based child training Grin Sounds as if you need a rest today too after your action packed Saturday!

Well done with your long ta da list Toffee! And so sorry to hear that your dmum is going through such hard times. They do say it is best not to make any serious decisions (such as buying and selling property) for six months following a bereavement but of course can understand why she wants to move nearer to you as soon as possible; must be terribly bitter sweet for her. I hope the GP was helpful wrt her headaches anyway.

Oops - I can hear bodies stirring - had better stop typing and get going!

Enjoy your Bank Holidays weekends everyone!

Steadycampaign · 24/05/2015 13:18

Forgot to report dd's reaction to Eurovision last night (think it was the Spanish entry) which was, "Mummy, her pants are showing"

BlueEyeshadow · 24/05/2015 14:59

Have a good holiday, ellie.

Sorry to hear about the dog saga, SC. Poor thing. But well done you, for picking up the pieces. Grin at DD's reaction to Eurovision!

We watched the whole thing to the bitter end - annual ritual, with takeaway. :) Definitely need to put the results announcers on a strict time limit though - all of them milking their 30 seconds of fame!

Unfortunately, just as we were getting ready for bed, DS2 was copiously sick, so it was a very disturbed night. And the boys were awake at 5.30 this morning!! DS2 is now crashed out on the sofa, but seems much better in himself.

As for flying, did gardening yesterday, and hoovering today, so that's something. We are now seriously looking into putting this place on the market, events at school having speeded up our urgency about moving house, so there are going to be lots of little DIY jobs to do, and will need major decluttering and keeping tidy. [weeps]

Greymalkin · 24/05/2015 20:17

Hi all, sorry I haven't had time for personals. Busy weekend here, will catch up properly later.

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Links for tomorrow, Bank Holiday Monday 25h May.

Link to the flight plan for an overall summary of the day

As we are starting a new week, here is our overview of all the upcoming missions: sneak peak for the week

Tomorrow’s baby step is Reflect on how well you have done, and read another testimonial

The Daily focus for Monday is Weekly Home Bleugh

Our habit of the month is Moving More

This week we are in Zone 5: The Living Room. Declutter in here for 15 minutes each day.

Our mission in this week’s zone is [[www.flylady.net/c/sp.php#missions
stand and stare about in your living room, looking for clutter and things that no longer bring you joy]]

The detailed cleaning list for this zone is here for the more experienced Fledglings

Launch pad is here and is full of all the info you need each day, well worth a look.

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Steadycampaign · 24/05/2015 21:22

Forgot to wish Ellie a happy holiday!

And sorry to hear about puke fest Blue (wonders if it was induced by the UK Eurovision entry) but glad to hear your ds2 is feeling much better now!

Day didn't really work out as planned but actually managed to pin down dh and did a fair bit of prep re: next weekend so feeling much less panicky about that, then went to lovely friends for spontaneous supper and chat. Boudoir did not get done again but will have to crack on tomorrow.

Slight concern about dh who is beyond tired today and didn't come out with us (very unusual). Hope he is not going down with something.

Thanks for links Grey! G'night all!

Dogsbumhair · 24/05/2015 23:21

Made me feel really sad hearing more about your poor dog SC, I can't feel quite so positively about previous owners, under feeding a dog to keep it quiet/well behaved is beyond shocking.

Glad to hear that the trainer feels things can be sorted or at least get a lot better and I'm just so pleased that he now has your family, especially as you are so committed to getting the professional help that he clearly needs to get through his past experiences. Give him a fuss and a cuddle from me please.

Have been in cellar today trying to identify where the hell in the mess we can put the new freezer. Still it needed some sorting and it never would have reached the top of the priority list without the push of the freezer coming on Tuesday. Don't worry I only worked out what needed throwing and then got DP to carry those items out of the cellar, no crazy antics from me Grin

Now lying on chaise longue clutching hot water bottle..... it's a hard life....Wink

Steadycampaign · 25/05/2015 10:06

Waves to Dogsbum and plumps up cushions on chaise longue

[Glad to hear you are not doing any heavy lifting] Good luck with cellar purge!

Doggy pats and strokes and tickles duly administered - thank you!

To be fair to previous owners, that was only speculation about the under-feeding but I still don't understand the way they went about things. It could be they were just very busy and the dog's priorities fell to the bottom of the pile, and they weighed him when he was young and then didn't up the dose of food, ditto follow up injections etc.

Happy to report that dog's coat now a lot softer and glossier and he's lost the scurf on his tum Smile

Oh dear, I've faffed about enough this morning, need to face the boudoir now ...

Swanhildapirouetting · 25/05/2015 13:24

I am tidying my bedroom!

The usual torture deciding not to throw away things in case I fit into them next year WinkHmm Should I just accept the inevitable.....

Dh has moved new drawers into ds2's room and put the labels on every drawer so we have less of the screaming I don't know where my socks are etc.

Dd is now living in a genuine Oxfam shop - literally piles and piles of clothes and possessions. I think I hope she is beginning to panic and might do some tidying soon.

Ds1 has done some revision and then off to Mad Max 4 (or 5 - whatever it is) with dh

And ds2, bless him, is making a model runway with lego and planes Smile

otherwise we are in tipville central and no possibility of any guests over or expeditions because we need to sort it out or I will implode.

Greymalkin · 25/05/2015 19:32

Good evening everyone, hope you're all well (I still haven't caught up on the thread, hope I haven't missed any major news)

The Grey household has been having lots of Family Fun so virtually no flying, and I don't care! < flounces off to the naughty corner with Dragon >

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Here are our links for Tuesday 26th May:

Link to the flight plan for an overall summary of the day

Tomorrow’s baby step is accept that you are never behind with the FlyLady system, just jump back in where you are

The Daily focus for Tuesday is Planning Day write your shopping list, menu planning, weekly activities, master plan for world domination etc etc

Our habit of the month is Moving More

This week we are in Zone 5: The Living Room. Declutter in here for 15 minutes each day.

Our mission in this week’s zone is go rummaging under the cushions on your sofa, down the back of chairs and clean out all the bits than get stuck down there

The detailed cleaning list for this zone is here for the more experienced Fledglings

Launch pad is here and is full of all the info you need each day, well worth a look.

Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake

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Dogsbumhair · 25/05/2015 21:20

Thanks Steady for plumping up my cushions, much appreciated. I'm now back on chaise longue, feet up, DP fetching me things, all is good...

Thanks for passing on affection to adorable dog and hope he continues to blossom with your family's love and affection, bless his little cotton socks!!

We had another go in cellar today and we've cleared loads out. Again I just said what to shift and sorted through small items and DP did all the work so he was knackered by the end and drenched through with lifting wood, me, not a bead of sweat, so that has to mean that I behaved myself! Grin Wink

I think we are both pretty pleased about how much we've got rid of. DP has taken a car load to the dump it site and we've got two more car loads worth ready to go in the garden. Feels like a real sense of achievement and there is now tons of space for new freezer, hooray!

Sounds busy at your house Swan hope it feels more under control soon. I find trying to throw away clothes that I would love to fit back into almost impossible so I feel for you there. I'm a million times better than I used to be at throwing almost anything else away but that is my Achilles heel, I can not overcome my denial it appears, I always hope/believe/fantasise that I will one day fit back into the clothes, however unrealistic that is!!! Blush

Grey glad to hear that you had a family fun day, much more important than flying anyway, enjoy!

I'm enjoying Marvel Avengers Assemble on chaise longue and thinking about what snack to have as I feel a bit peckish.....it's a hard life! Wink

BlueEyeshadow · 25/05/2015 22:30

Have been working hard all day, but seem to have only mess to show for it. Having decided that moving has become more urgent, we now have a 4-week deadline to get the house decluttered and redecorate the hall, stairs and landing. Been moving books around all day, and packing an entire bookcase-worth for storage. What's left looks tons better, but there are boxes everywhere and oh, the dust...! Also managed to clear the utility room for the first time in months, and that looks amazing now, and the kitchen is properly clean, so I guess something is achieved. And have written lots of lists...

And DS2 still isn't completely better. Erk.

Swanhildapirouetting · 25/05/2015 22:59

bedroom is nearly tidy
still have to find a place for the ski-ing clobber though (loft might swallow it up but I think I'll never find it again)
have thrown black sack's worth away of rubbish
hung up my clothes
some clothes decluttered
dusted one surface
threw away 4 books
made nice pile of clean bath towels

still hoovering to go

Blue moving -how exciting - although it always sad to see how nice one's house looks when you are about to sell it Confused Is it a school related move or just pastures new?

SC glad fete was such a sparkling tonic to all especially dd

otherwise
washing
cooking
dw
swimming
gym
dealing with dd strop
teaching ds2 about the Pontillists
and a very very late start (lazy lie in)

Steadycampaign · 26/05/2015 07:47

Morning, morning! Bit of a grouchy one in the SC household. The sort of morning where one feels like packing a suitcase, exiting the front door, and leaving everyone to it!

DD is tired having been mucking about late at night, after going up to bed two hours previously [sigh]. And is answering back something rotten.

Dh is tired and very very snippy and very abrupt and rude.

I did not get boudoir done yesterday either - certainly wasn't idle - but there were loads of other urgent things that claimed my attention first, and we had loads of unexpected social meet-ups - then I felt really tired - utterly hopeless!

None of our weekend house 'to do' list got done

And guest deadline (by when the house must look ship shape) is fast approaching [yikes]

And dog is off his food this morning ... something more to worry about ...

You lovely fledglings on the other hand have been impressively and mahoosively busy! Well done Blue Swan and Dogsbum on your decluttering and organising extravaganzas!!

[Sorry ds2 is still under par Blue] You did well to get all of that done and look after a sick child.

Glad you are taking it steady Dogsbum

Wow to labelled drawers Swan!

And a big yay to family fun Grey!

Hope you had a good trip DEM!

You too Ellie!

Bless hope you are finding a path through those book ...

Meant to say Toffee thanks v. much for your concern down thread but was so busy this weekend, wierd feeling in head completely disappeared!! (And am regularly monitored for heart thing so v. much doubt anything serious!)

Right, want to go back and hide in my duvet but had better get on ... .

Swanhildapirouetting · 26/05/2015 09:16

[hugs] to SC if that's allowed in Belgium (I'm sure it is)

dd was behaving so rudely yesterday evening too [sigh] She slammed her door twice on me and uttered the immortal words I can never do anything to please you Shock )has she learnt this from a soap opera I wonder?

I am so pleased you had a memorable weekend and today is bound to be a bit of a collapse. Have a nice cup of tea don't try and do anything for an hour perhaps.

grumpy husband approaching better dash

Greymalkin · 26/05/2015 09:35

Good morning fledglings, I have finally caught up on the thread.

Ellie and DEM - hope you are having nice trips away

Blue how is your DS this morning? I know yours is much older than mine, but I've always found puke far, far more revolting to deal with than nappy incidents. Envy

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Greymalkin · 26/05/2015 09:37

Oops, I forgot Bless - is that because you got buried under all that paperwork you were sorting?!

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Greymalkin · 26/05/2015 10:01

We had a great long weekend doing family stuff. One day we caught up with DSs godparents, then went to a local history museum. It had lots of natural history, including an indoor, Perspex bee hive so we could watch the bees up really close. Also lots of Roman archeological finds including several hoards of gold coins that had been found in the village I grew up in as a child! It was brilliant, and DS was so excited running round looking at all the exhibits.

Then another day we met up with BIL and SIL for a day out at the beach - much fun had by all.

Last night DH and I spent several hours going through his business accounts and book keeping, I still have loads left to do this week.

DH is having to spend most of the next few weeks working away. It's quieter and less messy when he isn't here, but odd at the same time. DS misses him and hates it when he leaves.

Ta da
DS up, dressed, fed etc
Cats fed, litter trays dealt with
Three loads of laundry sorted
One Washload on
Dishwasher loaded and on
Kitchen table wiped down
eBay parcel wrapped
30mins of book keeping

To do
Take DS to the park, do glass recycling and trip to post office on the way
Make the beds
Hang up washing outside
Do more washing
Repair DHs ripped trouser seam
Unload dishwasher
More accounts / book keeping
Get some more eBay listings ready
Declutter and dust at least one of our three book cases

I could add loads more to that list but won't as it will just get disheartening.

TTFN

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Steadycampaign · 26/05/2015 10:08

Thank you for the encouragement everyone!! Thanks

Swan it is usually three kisses - no less!- here in Belgium (mass greetings take a long time) but thank you very much all the same!! Smile And, yes, [sigh] to stroppy girls and soap opera language, although I always try and say to myself that it is good when teenage girls aren't too polite and submissive (despite being very trying when stroppiness directed at oneself) because they are going to have to stand up for themselves when they leave the nest and the world being what it is etc etc, I don't think a girl could survive nowadays with the level of submission/politeness/people pleasing that was inculcated in to us (me and my sisters) at school.

Grey not good with puke here either and dog is retching a bit now. [Please thank Dragon and tell him I will save Biscuit for when dog is feeling better.]

First ever pointillist (little dots!) painting here!

Is it awful of me to put him on the terrace do you think? He has a little kennel with soft blanket, water bowl and another fleecy thick rug thing outside kennel to lie on, and it is warm but not overly sunny and he seems fairly content (and obviously I am doing regular checks). Just don't think I can cope with puke in house along with everything else this morning. Much more familiar with dealing with sick horses and rabbits ... .

Right, having taken your advice Swan and eased myself in to the morning with dw and wm and easy stuff ... I am now going to going for broke in the boudoir ...

Have a good day everyone!

Steadycampaign · 26/05/2015 10:12

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your weekend sounds fab Grey and hope you'll give yourself a reward at the end of your 'to do' list!

BlueEyeshadow · 26/05/2015 11:52

DS2 seems almost back to normal now, thanks Grey. Hoping he'll be well enough for the activities with friends/family planned for the rest of the week, so they're having another take it easy DVD kind of day today.

Swan the idea of a nicer house at the end is exciting, but at the moment I feel dispirited and overwhelmed! Moving was always going to happen eventually, but precise timing is school-related. Some of our fears seem to be coming true after all. :(

This morning I've scrubbed all the walls ready for painting, but they need sanding and filling, and doing it properly is going to be such a big job that I'm wondering if we can get away with patching up the worst bits. Sigh.

Now need to tackle the craft-drawers of doom, having been reinforced by Brew.

BlessThisMess · 26/05/2015 13:48

I'm still here - I haven't fallen under a pile of papers nor has doing statistical analysis killed me ..... (not quite yet anyway....). I didn't get as much of the desk cleared as I had hoped as DH wandered in and we ended up having a long (much-needed) conversation, and then my course colleague dropped in for help with her clinic portfolio. She is very lovely, but she talks and talks and talks! So 3 hours later .....

Anyway, the worst teetering piles on the desk got put/chucked away. I have abandoned that desk for the time being and am doing my dissertation work out in the caravan where I have a kettle, and a toilet, and I don't get so disturbed!

SC You do remind me of one of the great bonuses of horses - they cannot vomit! (OK, so they can die of colic, but still ..... no vomit is a great blessing!)

DarkEvilMoon · 26/05/2015 15:33

Morning. Am back, utterly exhausted.

ToffeeWhirl · 26/05/2015 16:00

Have spent ALL DAY (no exaggeration) trying to cobble together my CV and a covering letter for a job that has come up locally. Very depressing trying to think of what I've achieved in previous jobs, as I can't remember anything at all! However, I have nearly finished it now and am shortly going to email it and then wait for the deafening silence. Was in a complete quandary about what to do about all my career breaks, but finally decided I had to be honest about it and admit that I'd had 'caring responsibilities'.

DS1 has been sadly neglected, as DH doesn't attend to him like I do, I've been too busy and DS1 forgets to eat if I don't remind him. He did eventually grab himself a plateful of chocolate-chip muffins - hardly healthy, but at least he won't starve. Will cook a big meal tonight.

Greymalkin · 26/05/2015 21:33

More Ta da's

Took DS to the park
Glass recycling
Posted eBay parcel
Made the beds
More washing
All laundry hung up on line, folded and not quite put away
More accounts / book keeping

Too tired to do anything else. Dishwasher still needs emptying, sink is overflowing. Meh.

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