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Fledglings flutter round the May Pole – FlyLady May 2015

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Greymalkin · 30/04/2015 12:46

First of all, a big thank you to Dogsbum for leading us (for the very first time) through the April thread; fantastic job!

If you are struggling with C.H.A.O.S. (Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (Something That Undermines Family Fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and chat along the way.

The FlyLady link is here Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound!

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in zones of the house which are designated weekly; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with loads more time to do something more interesting instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again!

It's up to you, but we advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 minutes a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.
  • And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.

There are three key points to keep in mind throughout:

  • No perfectionism allowed - this is harder than you would imagine and many of us on this thread struggle with this one!
  • You are never behind - just start where you are and anything you do is progress.
  • It didn't get into a mess overnight, it won't get tidy over night - accept it will take time to get on top of things and you will be happier.

If you are new; then trying to spend 15mins decluttering daily and doing the babysteps is a good way to start. Some of us (mentioning no names!) can have scary looking ‘ta-da’ lists but don't let that worry you! Do what you can, anything is better than nothing, and don't judge yourself against others.

If all else fails, a Brew + the power of three technique + a bit of support on here can work wonders!

Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings.

Don’t let it put you off if we appear a bit cliquey, we really aren’t! Some of us have been on here for years – but all lurkers, intermittent returnees, oldies and newcomers very, very welcome

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Greymalkin · 20/05/2015 08:01

Good morning fledglings. Dragon has volunteered to fly any fledglings out to the desert island and can sort out that campfire for you all too Grin. He can also toast marshmallows too...

So sorry everyone is having such a hard time. SC, you often say that you "shouldn't" complain about feeling stressed with only one DC, but that's just you being too hard on yourself. We all have different stress thresholds, and that's fine.

DEM my mouth fell open at your list apparently "not being enough"! In the flylady spirit, something is better than nothing and I couldn't agree more with your earlier post about progress being better than perfection.

Toffee - great about your DS getting off to school, I was wondering whether he'd be having a science lesson whilst decked out in his Breaking Bad get up?!

Waves to Swan, Blue, WhoKnows, Dogs, Shannara, Bless and everyone else.

I was having a stressy night myself yesterday, hence only the links being posted fecking laptop can go to hell
My family day was ok, but DH needs some serious self-organising. He had to leave early this morning for a business trip, but did fuck all to get planned or ready in advance. Think: no clean clothes, suitcase not packed, not showered, car not ready, not out of bed on time. The only reason for all this, is that he would rather sod about on his iPad/MacBook/phone/Netflix/ or multiple combinations thereof. Then when it dawns on him he has a shit load of stuff to do, he gets huffy, demands to know where all his possessions are, stomps about and leaves a trail of mess in his wake. I want to scream at him sometimes.

Ta da
Recycling put out because DH didn't do it Angry

To do
Put washing on
Change bed sheets x2
Cat litter trays
Pack overnight bag for DS for going to MILs tonight
Do some of this weeks missions in the boudoir
Take DS out for the morning
Hoover living room
And loads of other stuff that I'm trying to ignore.

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ToffeeWhirl · 20/05/2015 09:12

dogs - Like Swan, I love your theory of existence, but I also think you shouldn't underestimate the human ability to adapt - it's what has kept us going all these years, after all. I sometimes look at images of crowded streets in India and wonder how everyone there copes (especially those with ASD), but I suppose it's become normal for them. Maybe your desert island fantasy was a clever way of coping when life became too much. I still have a room in my grandparent's house that I can retreat to (in my mind - it's long gone now Sad).

I am particularly keen on our ability to adapt at the moment because it's one of DS1's therapist's themes and, as always, his therapy turns into my therapy too because I sit in on his sessions.

Anyway, the primitive part of my brain definitely took over last night because I fell asleep on the sofa (again) and didn't wake until DS2 called to me in the early hours. I then fell into bed with him and slept through till 8am. I must say, I quite like waking up already clothed and am tempted to just stay like this all day...

DH forgot to give DS1 his melatonin, so he was up till the early hours this morning. I found him still up at 1am, then woke up to hear him brushing his teeth at around 2 or 3am .

Grey - sympathies on your DH's lack of preplanning. I had similar yesterday. I spent about 20 minutes getting ready for an afternoon meeting at DS1's school: changed into smarter clothes, redid my lippy, combed my hair, etc. Meanwhile, DH was downstairs, relaxing on the sofa. When it was time to leave, I handed him a jacket, then realised he was unshaven and still wearing his work clothes (shoddy jeans, old tee shirt). At that point, he realised that maybe he should have cleaned himself up a bit, but it was too late by then.

I hadn't thought of the link between DS1's tee shirt and his new lab, Grey - that made me laugh. Oh god, maybe he's actually creating crystal meth up there. No wonder he's so cheerful.

WhoKnows - the solution to cats waking you up is to be mean, like us, and lock them downstairs overnight Grin. We lock ours in the kitchen/dining room, where they have everything they need except humans to pester. Good luck with your IL's visit today. By the sound of it, you left CHAOS behind long ago and your house will look fine.

DEM - can't believe your list doesn't feel enough - that's crazy talk. You achieved loads yesterday. Am interested in your recipe book - what form does it take?

SC - so sorry life is so busy and stressful at the moment. No wonder your stomach is bothering you Sad. I suspect you would feel able to cope better if you weren't carrying all that worry about your DD's exams on top of everything. You will be so relieved when they are all over! I can't add anything to Swan's brilliant advice, to be honest. And thank you for asking about my blood-test results. Afraid I still haven't booked a doctor's appointment for myself yet - I took DS2 last week and it just felt too much to have to go for myself too. My tiredness seems to be at a more normal level now, I think.

Swan - your tips on reducing stress are excellent - just remember to apply them to yourself as well! Glad you have lots of food and clean laundry to wake up to Envy.

Had a bit of a 'discussion' with DH about food yesterday. He has started to do more shopping because he thinks I spend too much shopping online at Ocado. That was fine with me until I realised he'd spent just as much as me, but that we didn't have half the things we needed: no bin bags, no fruit for the boys (but lots of biscuits and crisps), nothing for lunches and only a couple of meals. So I have warned him that I will be doing another Ocado shop, but will stick to their essentials range as much as possible. I worry so much about my boys' weight (both so skinny Sad) and yesterday DS1 refused lunch because there was nothing he liked.

Yesterday was non-stop, with DS1's trip to school, followed by a good meeting with his therapist and ending with a long meeting at his new school. The next step of the plan is for him to start doing three mornings a week. He has been allocated a tutor and class (all of six children in it!) and will be going in to meet his new tutor sometime this week.

I now have to order the rest of his uniform, which makes it all feel much more real.

I have a lovely empty day today, which means I need to tackle household stuff and get some chores done in town, like collecting meds. DS1 also needs new shoes.

Steadycampaign · 20/05/2015 11:23

Morning all! [Flutters in from tranquil island oasis having enjoyed delicious cheese bread with pure spring water and toasted marshmallows!]

[Or perhaps the spring water was to put out possible hay bale fire? Grin Either way, it was lovely!]

Thank you for more reassuring words everyone! I don't know how I would cope without this thread sometimes! And thank you for such patient Fledgling tolerance for my ongoing stress-head outbursts!! Thanks

Awake for large parts of night feeling stressed (with stomach ache) but actually felt ok once I got up this morning and have managed to do a bit here and there. Need to do far more but have just taken a 10 min break just now in the garden with dog and sunshine and feel a lot better for it! (Should be dead-heading daffodils but can never remember if you cut in front the 'bump'/seed sack thingy or behind it; and can't find the book where it explains! So have come up to Google.)

Still feel a bit tottery and spaced out but, as Swan advised, just deciding to go with the flow and try and keep up as best as I realistically can. Can't do any more.

Further upset by school last night [gibbers and froths at mouth Grin ] who responded with a rather blunt "children should give their all, no excuses until after the exams" when I expressed concern that the schedule was a bit overwhelming for 11 year olds. I was also told to "have confidence" in my child which I felt rather insulted by (I know I do need to have confidence in her but I don't have confidence in the over-scheduled system!). They have always made a great song and dance about a "parent-school" partnership but yet seem indifferent to parental insight or genuine parental concern when it is somehow contrary to their Agenda.

And yes Toffee you are right about me primarily being stressed out by the exams; as we are trying hard to pretend that they don't matter, but in reality so much depends on the outcome. If only the Confirmation came afterwards not before, I could actually enjoy all the visitors then! But must try and not to be too uptight for their sake!

Snap btw - I just 'lay down' for a few minutes on my bed last night and woke up 1.5 hrs later fully clothed and wearing an apron!! Grin

How exciting about buying ds1's uniform and brilliant that there are only 6 boys in the class!! He did brilliantly well yesterday too! Three mornings a week sounds like a very prudent start too.

Oh and do nab that doc's appt before everyone starts rushing off for the summer Smile

Enjoy your "empty" day today which actually sounds quite busy!

[strokes Dragon ] Greymalkin sympathies re: dhs/dps who only get ready at the very last minute! Tis one of those 'man' things (not that that makes it any less frustrating though). My dh is congenitally incapable of planning more than one morning or one afternoon ahead. To be fair to him, it's because he packs so much in and because his schedule is constantly changing but it's impossible to keep track because he never communicates the changes to anyone else!

Whoknows/Dogs totally agree about their being far too many confusing and stressful choices available in the modern world! And I truly believe that we all need to be around a bit of nature from time to time for good mental health.

Blimey O'Reilly DEM that is one hum-dinger of a list! I think 3 hrs spent clearing floor of junk qualifies as a huge achievement on its own, never mind everything else! (And I must follow suit and clear junk off boudoir floor now too, so thanks for inspiration, your tenacity will make me work harder!) Trying to visualise your zombie btw!! Grin

Swan arf at your crafty cat Grin

Ta da:
morning routines inc animals, dw, wm, dining room table hotspots
moved garden sacks full of clippings through house to front door for collection
dusted and hoovered and cleaned entire downstairs inc 'good do' in kitchen
spoke to friend on phone
wrote lists

To do:
quick supermarket shop
school run
chemist run
boudoir
prep supper for tonight
prep school meeting
entertain friends

Have more time than I thought because dog-trainer is coming tomorrow not today as thought! (Seems I actually do need Flylady's lesson on how to use a calendar Blush) Actually, this always happens when I am stressed, I speed up and think I am two days ahead of the current day!

Hope everyone has a good day today ... meet you back at the island tonight?

DarkEvilMoon · 20/05/2015 12:18

Wrt the list that was why i wrote it down, it felt a bit better seeing it written down but I was still looking at the pile on the floor and getting frustrated at yet again having to leave a job half done. I am a perfectionist and an all or nothing kinda person. I find it hard to not be - even more since i appear to be collecting ds' perfectionist tendencies and obsession to precision, timing and details. Guess that is always the case when you are having to work to other peoples restrictions. I have no feelings about yesterday's list as now that i have done some productive procrastination I NEED to get on and get everything sorted for Friday's trip. Not helped by the fact that internet, phone and television signal has been very intermittent recently. Beginning to drive me batty. However, as ds was not in school again today (48hr rule), I had a lie in and have had a proper night's sleep. Just need to stop at 3 cups of coffee today so I can get a good night's sleep tonight as I won't sleep well Thursday night. Too much excitement and anticipation Wink. Hoping that once May has shifted I will be able to chat and engage more properly, I have nearly a week of rest planned. Complete and utter rest.

Steadycampaign · 20/05/2015 13:18

Don't be so hard on yourself DEM a job half done is a job half finished (in a good way!!) Hope prospect of Fri trip is a bit less daunting than it was earlier in wk and that preparation for it goes well this pm, although must be more difficult with your ds at home (hope he feels better soon). Hope technology repairs itself in time for you to sort stuff too! Good luck with everything! And wishing you good quality shut eye for tonight!

Brew Biscuit

elliepac · 20/05/2015 19:33

Errrrrrrr.......,sheepish shuffle into the Fledgling room......hoping that the power of absence forgiveness is a babystep somewhere along the line...

Hi everyoneSmile.

ToffeeWhirl · 20/05/2015 20:21

Ahem, ellie. I've been wondering where you were....

(Good to see you, though Wine Thanks ).

elliepac · 20/05/2015 20:39

Does that mean you forgive metoffee....pretty please.

elliepac · 20/05/2015 20:47

So...I am going to assume because you all love me so much and have missed my witty repartee so much that you will welcome me back to the fledgling fold. I will still be shit at flying but that will provide entertainment...I like to help. I have no reasonable excuse...life has been busy and exciting but no excuses, just shit as usual. Big waves to all those who know me and equally big waves to any who don't. I luffs you all EnvyEnvyEnvy

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 20/05/2015 20:59

Ellie - welcome back! Long time no see......

ToffeeWhirl · 20/05/2015 21:00

Of course, welcome back, ellie. How are you?

elliepac · 20/05/2015 21:09

Waves to whoknows Smile.

I am super good thank you toffee. Still at my mum's. But things have settled with the dc's. Work is good as ever. And have possibly been dating again..,and have possibly met someone a little special...all good in the elliepac hoodSmileSmileSmile.

BlueEyeshadow · 20/05/2015 21:53

Hi ellie - nice to see you, and good to hear that all's well. :)

Soothing Brew for SC and a decaff one for DEM.

Glad to hear DS1 doing so well, too, Toffee.

Not much going on here. Work still ploughing on. Author still driving me mad. I'm also narked with school over something that was supposed to be happening at short notice tomorrow, for which I rearranged other stuff, and which has now been postponed. Grr! Angry

Still, have been to Zumba and burnt off a bit of frustration.

DarkEvilMoon · 20/05/2015 22:02

Urm not to rain on your parade Miss Ellie but are you have us to believe that this year will be different in the history of fledglings and you won't be so snowed under with work you barely know what day it is?!

We still need Nettie back though. Miss Nettie, but she is off taking over the rl. ShockWinkGrin

elliepac · 20/05/2015 22:28

You miss the point miss name changer dem. I think you will find i did admit i was shit at flying a couple of posts back. So to summarise.,,,piss offGrinGrinGrin. You know you've missed meGrin

DarkEvilMoon · 20/05/2015 22:43

Think i might have found the cause of the internet connection problems. Only downside is that I don't currently have a new cable that will allow me to sit on the bed and work on the computer so I am going to have to stand at the chest of drawers to work. Which will annoy me enough to get a new cable when I get back but it will do for now.

Fledglings flutter round the May Pole – FlyLady May 2015
DarkEvilMoon · 20/05/2015 23:21

Oh and Ellie it was never your flying skills that I was questioning, just the number of hours in the day and your ownership of magic wands... tis nice to have my swear buddy back though

elliepac · 20/05/2015 23:28

I am a veritable witch...just ask the kids I teach. And glad to know that my main contribution to this thread over the last 6 years is bloody swearingGrinGrinGrinGrin

Steadycampaign · 21/05/2015 08:33

Morning!

Yay! Welcome back Ellie great to hear things are going so well for you and for the dc! (And no sheepish shuffling thank you! Grin)

[You can see that things haven't changed much here; I am still whinging on in a stressed manner and everyone else is being very kind!! Grin)

Thanks for cha Blue! Here's one in return Brew

No time to write long lists but yesterday is over thankfully. Another big day of ticking off tasks lies ahead. That's it really! Big waves to everyone else!

Also, a bit concerned about dog who went as if to bite me this morning but didn't. He's usually the friendliest dog on earth (well, for the month or two we have known him). No warning or anything. (I was straightening out his blanket on the sofa.) Perhaps he is ill? Rather concerning ... (esp given we had small children here last night - all supervised but still). Dog trainer coming today so will ask. He is normally so tolerant of anything and anyone, I don't understand it. Perhaps our household is proving a bit loud and unsettling for him ... .

Heigh ho, onwards ... .

DarkEvilMoon · 21/05/2015 08:41
Grin

Morning, a good nights sleep so i feel like death. Hmm another busy day. Still need to sort travel insurance so that is the 2nd job after the school run (first being to collect various medicines/prescriptions)

hope you all have good days!

Greymalkin · 21/05/2015 09:42

Morning everyone, sorry for the late links. Laptop and connectivity failure Angry

Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake

Links for today, Thursday 21st May

Link to the flight plan for an overall summary of the day

Today's baby step is Ask FlyLady a question or better still, ask the Fledglings here a question, it could even be related to housekeeping...

The Daily focus for Thursday is Errand day

Our habit of the month is Moving More

This week we are in Zone 4: The Boudoir aka the Master Bedroom. Declutter in here for 15 minutes each day.

Our mission in this week’s zone is clean off and tidy your bedside table

The detailed cleaning list for this zone is Zone 4: www.flylady.net/d/zones/detailed-cleaning-zone-4/here for the more experienced Fledglings

Launch pad is here and is full of all the info you need each day, well worth a look.

Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake Brew Cake

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Steadycampaign · 21/05/2015 10:12

Good luck with it all DEM

Thanks for links ¨Grey so sorry I didn't notice they were missing last night Blush you can see how assiduously I am following my Flying schedule Blush

DarkEvilMoon · 21/05/2015 11:27

Bloody hell who would have thought that travel insurance would be so difficult to get sorted?! Shock Just waiting to hear back from the underwriters now.

Steadycampaign · 21/05/2015 13:44

Dog-trainer has just left after a 2 hr session in which our furry friend was appropriately badly behaved but at least now she has seen the worst Grin

About to start cake-baking, hair-dyeing, laundry and boudoir-clearing ... .

Greymalkin · 21/05/2015 13:47

Hello again everyone.

Glad you got some sleep DEM

SC hope your DDog isn't showing a dark side? Maybe he was getting a bit territorial over his blanket?

Ellie !!! welcome back. Have you met Dragon yet? He likes custard creams and a scratch behind the ear.

Blue - I'm curious about this author you work with. What is the material they write? Fiction / reference / escapist-dessert-island-retreat-travel guides Grin

Toffee Arf at your DH thinking he can do better with the food budget! We generally find we save money by doing shopping online rather than going to the supermarket.

So, I've had a really good morning:
Ta da :
Fed cats and snuck in their crushed up worming pills, then stood guard to make sure they ate it all

Called debt collection company after having received payment demands through the post for the people who lived here before us (very, very sad story)
Sold some of DS's outgrown toys through Facebook
washing x2
hung up washing x2
Dealt with cat litter trays
Swept entrance hall
Hoovered living room, three bedrooms and both landings
Stripped and remade two beds
Flipped the mattress on our bed (that f@#ker was heavy!)
As I had the mattress off the bed, I used a broom handle to poke and push three years worth of detritus out from under the bed. It was scary! I also used a hoover attachment to hoover the bed frame, all the slats, and as much of the floor under the bed I could reach. In the process, found some more stuff the eBay

As a reward for all that, I had an 'at home' facial with a green Lush facepack, exfoliator and lots of moisturiser.

Off to make some lunch and going to start reading Stephen Fry's autobiography for a bit.

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