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Chatting and (Baby) Stepping, (Baby) Stepping and Chatting.

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Scout19075 · 26/06/2012 12:38

A place to have a chat, drink Brew and relax from Stepping (or not). All chatters are welcome, Stepping or otherwise.

Come on in and enjoy the company!

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Scout19075 · 18/07/2012 09:15

I fear I love Pinterest a bit too much. Blush

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CatsInChaos · 18/07/2012 09:22

YAY! Computer working again this morning (Keeps fingers crossed x)
I think sometimes it just has an off day! --getting old-- Or it has information overload and I have to clear the temporary files etc.

I am having a Brew --my 3rd coffee today-- Blush
--need it to stay awake--

Thanks for the ideas for school hols. I will have to have a look at pinterest --not completely sure what it's all about--
I guess it's to do with pictures ??

CatsInChaos · 18/07/2012 09:48

I started a thread in chat so if you want to add anymore to it please, join in.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1520409-Summer-hols-from-school-starting-soon-how-are-you-going-to-keep-the-little-darlings-busy

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 10:35

I have added a few thoughts Cats.

Our caterpillars have arrived!! The dcs are sooooo excited, especially ds. They are now at home on the sideboard in the kitchen and ds is getting stuck into the activity book that came with it. We will research Painted Lady butterflies in a little while but they are happy crafting and colouring just now. Grin

Scout19075 · 18/07/2012 11:13

Stupid rain. We were going to release our butterflies today with our HE friends. They definitely need to be released but it's too cold to.

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carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 11:20

What a shame Scout! You will have to make one room of your house tropical and see if they can wait for a warmer day.

I am close on to having a breakdown. My lovely girl has been spoilt and pampered to the unbearable. She is being a total pita. She can forget going to Granny's again in a hurry I can tell you. I am seething.

Dh asked her to make a hairy biker apple pie. (Thanks dh) which she is doing but by torturing me. She seems to think she owns me and can DEMAND my attention and get it. Grrrrrr!

Scout19075 · 18/07/2012 11:49

Oh dear, carrots. Too much two-to-one at Granny's?

Toddler's having an "I can't concentrate for more than 47.3 seconds at a time" day. Very unlike him as he has a great attention span on things he's interested in. On plus note, though, he's suddenly interested and able to do his jigsaws (not a slot-the-piece into the shape ones but actual 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 piece puzzles that put together make pictures).

I didn't know butterflies could get aggressive, or maybe they're feeling frisky, but I think five butterflies in their observatory close quarters are getting a bit much. Yesterday was decentish -- I should have let them go yesterday instead of trying to hold off so the other kids could see them.

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carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 12:09

I think it was three to one Scout and now it is back to one to two. I think she knows she is doing it and is trying to stop herself but she is really shouty, stressy, demanding and obnoxious. Sad

In future dh can ask for complicated baking things when he is here to deal with it.

The first lot of pastry has gone in the bin because she couldn't wait five seconds to scoop the blind beads out and tried to pour them out.

I know she has to learn but really?

Scout the jigsaw stage is fun. If you buy jigsaws in a box that has several then put a colour dot on the back of all the ones that belong to one picture and a different colour dot on the backs of the ones that belong to other pictures. Otherwise you end up having to do them all to hand the dcs the right pieces for one puzzle or they end up confused and frustrated because Maisy mouse is on 6 pieces and only in the picture once. Does that make sense?

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 12:11

for Scout

I know this is too much for TS just now but I was looking for reasons why they might be territorial/frisky.

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 13:42

Cats I have just put a link to home made playdough on your holiday ideas page. The kids from our street have all gathered here today and they are having a ball with it! Grin

educatingarti · 18/07/2012 13:58

Afternoon all.
Scout - I'm guessing you have the Very Hungry Caterpillar book! I like this idea learningparade.typepad.co.uk/learning_parade/2010/04/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-new-story-resources.htm for practising story sequencing!

Carrots - sorry you are having such a time with dd. Can you "walk away from it" if only mentally (not advocating you actually abandon her - even if you are tempted) for a while and leave her to strop by herself? How does your peg chore chart work by the way?

Cats - I hope you are getting lots of good ideas for what to do with the DCs over the summer. From experience on holidays with my friend and her two I would say:
Try and get them outside for a bit when you can, even if it is just to the park or in the garden - are they old enough to enjoy garden "camp" making and cooking on campfires ( supervised of course) Wrapping potatoes in foil and putting them in hot embers ( and still eating them hard because I wasn't patient enough to wait two hours) is a great childhood memory for me. You can also slit the skin of bananas, push in squares of chocolate, wrap in foil and bake these in embers (much quicker).

Really restrict computer games, Nintendo DS, playstation etc. From my observation, behaviour deteriorates in direct proportion to time spent on DS! Maybe allow 30 mins in an evening?

Don't expect them to entertain themselves indefinitely. Give them clear times and expectations - eg "Until 11 o'clock, I need to go on mumsnet get jobs done so you need to do something by yourselves. ( Then get them to decide what they want to do - reading/lego/crafts or whatever rather than leave them randomly "roaming" the house). At 11 o'clock we will all got to the park/cafe/ice cream van/library or whatever.

Try and emphasise being "team (family name)" including yourself. So you might say: "Today I thought it might be fun to make a family camp in the garden. I've got some jobs to do first, so why don't you two work together as a team and see if you can build a really good den (hand over old rugs/sheet, clothes airer, clothes pegs, string, old carpet tiles, large pieces of cardboard or whatever you have to hand). At "time x" I'll come and see what you've done and if you have worked well asa team, we can make a camp fire and cook our lunch on it ( baked pots in embers 2 hours before lunch, plus heating up baked beans and sausage (either in kitchen) or in old saucepan on fire! (build fire in between 2 bricks that you can stand pan on!) If fire is a step too far, you could cook meal in kitchen but eat out in den!

Plan ahead when possible. If you know that tomorrow you can go to an activity in the library and on Friday you will go swimming it helps and I think the children benefit from having an idea of the schedule too!

Another great garden activity is making an obstacle course (crawl under rug weighted down at ends, balance on bricks/plank/ flower pots, carry jug of water for a few yards without spilling, hop between 2 markers etc etc) and timing each other doing it. Add up all your times to get a "family" score rather than individuals and try and decrease your family score rather than getting into the "it's not fair she can do it faster because she is older" type situations! There is as much fun in making the course as doing it imo!

Adora - on the "mummy is stressed" theme: When my friends two children were about aged 5 and 3, the 5 year-old asked her when they were travelling in a packed train carriage "Mummy are you still stressed?" She assured him that although she had been stressed ( about car breakdown) she wasn't any more, at which point her 3 year-old said very loudly to the amusement of the whole carriage "but Mummy, you are dressed, you are dressed!"

I'm having a bit of a disorganised time. It's my last few days of teaching before a holiday and I'm getting a bit of pre-holiday "do I really have to still keep going" syndrome. Plus I'm supposed to be sorting out clothes/packing etc for a family wedding on Saturday followed by a few days visit to a friend and feel like I'm not really organised for it. Also changes in routine and especially going away from home do sometimes trigger increased anxiety for me so I've got a bit of that going on. Plus I'm sharing a hotel room with my mother over the weekend which will not be easy as I won't feel I've got any personal space (I may need some very long baths!!). Fortunately I'm visiting a very understanding friend afterwards who will understand if I need to lie down in a darkened room for a while!!

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 14:45

Arti I kept trying to walk away from it (to the other end of the room to quietly do some craft) but she followed me, being vile. It follows the same pattern as yesterday - she has improved as the day has gone on.

Anyone any ideas what might be up? It's not like her and it's not nice. Sad

Having been overwhelmed by a wave of 5 kids diving around with playdough, they have all gone to another house to cause chaos there for a while.

I have baked banana muffins incase they come back and have juice and water and cups on the table. I will need to be more organised about healthyish snacks, that won't cost a fortune, if the kids are going to roam as a crowd. Any ideas there would also be welcome. I love to bake but I am low on ingredients and cash right now. I only have one egg left until I sort it out.

Arti I get wound up about packing and changes in routine too. I like the holiday I do with my parents as, although I get wound up about the packing, I know the building and likely activities and where the shop is etc. I wasn't like this when I was younger or even when dd was small. It is since I have had ds. I don't know if it is lack of sleep or the constant medical woes we have had with him or because he is such a live wire or just age... Anyway, you are not alone in it.

educatingarti · 18/07/2012 15:07

Carrots - hormonal changes maybe? She's the right kind of age for hormones to start kicking in!
Thanks for reassurances about not being alone!

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 15:13

I thought hormones too but was thrown by the time of day issue.

These kids are still off somewhere else. I am a bit worried they are making a pest of themselves somewhere they aren't wanted.

educatingarti · 18/07/2012 15:56

Perhaps she just is able to get better control as the day goes on. Perhaps the production of hormones is following a daily cycle, perhaps she is just more of an evening person than a morning one so finds it harder to control herself in the morning?
If the kids are making a pest of themselves, it is the other person's responsibility to say so and ask them to go home so don't worry!!!

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 15:59

If I pick up any beads they will reappear instantly won't they?

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 19:34

Arti the peg chore chart is an idea pinched from Pinterest. Each of us has a cardboard board with our name written on it. We got a packet of cheap wooden pegs and wrote lots of chores on them eg emptied dishwasher, put on washing machine, hung wet washing, hoovered etc. When someone does a job they peg that peg to their board. The person with the most pegs at the end of the day gets £1.

It still seems to be working except ds seems to see that dd is miles ahead today and has stopped trying. I don't want to flog it so I am letting it go. Hopefully when he sees the £1 handed over it will motivate for tomorrow [hopeful]

Poor dh. I am so grumpy. I took another sleeping tablet last night and I have been groggy and confused all day. I accidentally insulted a friend too. I can't really focus my eyes etc. I don't think they are for me. I was better yesterday on 2 3/4 hours sleep than I was today on much more but chemically induced sleep.

bessie26 · 18/07/2012 20:27

carrots do you think you have to take them for a few days in a row for them to be effective? There might be a different type that suits you? Perhaps you should go speak to your GP again?

Your DD was away from her home routine for nearly 2 weeks so perhaps that's not helping her getting "back to normal"?

arti - you really should write a blog or book or something! Could you write a list of everything you have to do before holiday so you can see yourself making progress, or would that be a bit too overwhelming?

I have had a very very crap day at work. I am drowning my sorrows in Hot Chocolate & am considering opening some Wine, but should probably go to bed early instead.

bessie26 · 18/07/2012 20:48

cats - when you get on Pinterest, look here (carrots & scout have similar lists)

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 21:02

Awww! bessie (((((hugs))))) I am sorry you have had a rubbish day.

I have always done what I am told and taken the medicines my doctor has advised but in this case I don't think I can. I think I am better off trying to relax and eat healthily. I would rather have the twitchy face than feel like this to be honest.

I think you are probably right about dd bessie. I think hormones, being a little under the weather, not being the centre of attention and the exciting stuff being over are all combining to make dd very tricky indeed.

Scout19075 · 18/07/2012 21:29

carrots, what time do you take the meds? Can you take them earlier in the evening so they wear off by morning? That happened with my needles -- if I took it just before bed, no matter how late, I felt like crap until about midday the next day but if I took it in the evening, say just after I put Toddler to bed, I slept off the rubbish feeling and felt "human" when I woke up in the morning.

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Scout19075 · 18/07/2012 21:35

bessie, can I offer you some Chocolate or some Cake?

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CatsInChaos · 18/07/2012 21:37

Thanks bessie for the link,

I'm not quite sure if I get what Pinterest is all about. I guess it's something about pictures you like etc. Confused I do like some of the pictures but I'm not sure if it's something I --know how to do-- would have time to do.

I have just been shopping with DS at around 7.30pm and spent a bit more money than I would of if I had gone alone! Hmm I was only meant to be buying picnic food. Shock

carrotsandcelery · 18/07/2012 21:42

I could try that Scout. Thank you. The main reason for them is to try to get me to sleep until later in the day but this is awful.

CatsInChaos · 18/07/2012 21:43

Arti Thanks for all your school holiday ideas.