The babysteppers Chat thread

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Please come in for tea and biscuits or and chat.

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oh sweetheart
what has mr scout said?

families are complicated affairs that tend to defy logic.i certainly wouldnt be exposing anyone to measles well or not.

if a family memberinsisted on not imuniseing their children and then exposed them i would find very difficult not to tell them they were bang on bonkers and i would be avoiding them like they were plague ridden frankly

i dont understand this notion that meales is no worse han a cold

imunisation is designed to wipe out dangerous illness and protect the vulnerable unable to have the innoculations so anyone avoding them is,imo,being selfish at the very least

MiL is in a tough position not wanting to be voided from the childrens lives as well as being worried about them and her son at this time.

in all honesty she shouldnt be putting herself at risk either as she cant exactly be a spring chicken and knowing how things are for TS and your health surely a bit extra consideration wouldnt have gone a miss and stayed away,or re arranged your visit for another time

Oh, and yes I know the jabs aren't fool proof. Just like having them once doesn't mean you can't catch them again -- it's rare but does happen more than people realize.

Seriously, I just want to cry.

On a positive, though, Toddler loves Chocolate Bunny (he's been accepted into the warren), it took him a bit but he figured out egg hunting and now he's happily playing with his Brio and his new train pieces (he got a tall crane from MrScout & I for Easter).

thats lovely scout.im soo pleased chocolate bunny has been lovingly taken in.i always love it when the zoolets take a toy to heart.like i said ds has had a sheep 4yrs this easter and it still shares his bed

some briio is a lovley idea for easter.

glad he got the hang egg hunting too[busmile]

these are the things you have to hang on to when its all going tits up.x

Scout Sending {{hugs}} and hope you are all going to be alright.

Good grief! Scout there is not a lot we can say. I sympathise with your PIL predicament and the fact they have such limited opportunities to see their grandaughters if they school them abroad. They should have made a choice though, however rude it might have seemed, and let you go home before they went over.

It is very selfish to expose you to such an infectious disease when they don't have to.

I can only sympathise and offer some Scottish bosies.

This is when we feel so far away from each other.

I am a listening and sympathetic ear [busad] [buangry]

If it cheers you up at all, dd and ds have been training Pup in the garden to go over, under and walk along jumps. He will be on BGT before we know it. [bugrin]

I went off to decorate a second bunny cake. We're about to have a buffet and then it's Toddler's bedtime so won't be around again until later.

Sorry I've been a grumpy puss, scare-monger. It's just this is one of many things with that branch of the family and, quite honestly, I'm terrified of getting ill.

Dinner here is veglicious sausages and oven chips and beans. I just CBA.

We have made Easter nests though [bugrin]

Scout you have been very contained and controlled tbh. I think major grumpiness would be entirely justified. It is such a shame it has also come at a time when you are trying to create happy memories of and for TS.

As zoo says (and I know I need to listen to my own advice) you have to try hard to focus on the positives, like TS and the adoption of chocolate bunny into the fold etc. Easier said than done I understand.

I understand how torn my MiL must feel. She wants to see her grandbabies. And I think she wants my SiL approval (long story). But my SiL and her husband often pull stunts so the extended family can't see their branch. They make it very difficult for them to even see them normally, despite being 3/4 of a block away.

I guess I'm struggling with why she, and the rest of the family, would put themselves that close to a potentially nasty illness.

I realize I must sound very selfish but I'm also worried about my PiL -- they're in their 70s, and while in good health to have some underlying issues. MiL is very active, still teaches (university level and private tutoring) but is, well, older.

Yes, today I did all I could to focus on Toddler. We played, he cuddled new Chocolate Bunny, he napped. We had a lovely dinner then went outside to play with the windmill and hunt for eggs. He had presents, played with his trains, had more food. We called my parents in the States and put him on speaker so he could talk to them (and he carried on a proper conversation).

I still want to go home.

Oh Scout. I don't think you sound selfish at all. You are in a horrible situation. It is also awful to be away from home and just want to go back there. Very, very awkward.

I am glad you have managed to focus on Ts and your day with him.

carrots, how's your DS today?

bessie, how's your DC?

How many chocolate eggs have been eaten today?

scout you don't sound selfish to me, you sound more like a saint! I probably would have flounced yesterday & if not, would have definately had a hissy fit today! What does MrScout think about it all?

DD2 has stopped vommiting, but has been very quiet & subdued today We have been at ILs for most of the day, but she had 2 good long naps & ate breakfast (banana), lunch (mainly potato & cauliflower) & tea (toast), but had a temp of 39.8 when we got home. I hate any temp over 39, but she has drunk alot today & had plenty of wet nappies so am trying not to worry too much.

DD1 (3.5) had a wonderful day playing with her "big girl" cousins (7 & 11yo) - they were so sweet playing with her & helping her find the hundreds of eggs. In the past she has been a very quiet/timid little girl, so it was lovely to see her run off to play with such grown up girls who she hasn't seen for over a year

I have stolen eaten two small lindt bunnies from the DC. DD2 (11m) still has 4 left & DD1 has a bag full of loot all from her grannie. What do you do with your DCs hoard? AIBU to hide it & bring it out one piece at a time? She usually only has one square of chocolate a week (for being well behaved at swimming), we really don't want her to start eating loads of it all the time, but also don't want to not let her have it....

bessie I used to eek it out but ended up with the dcs having chocolate regularly for months and months and it became habit for them.

Now, having learned from sensible friends, I partially let them gorge themselves and get it over with. It seems to put them off a bit and that is the end of it. I don't let them go totally ott with it but I do let them have A LOT more than I normally would. The only other time I allow that is Christmas.

When the dcs were the age of yours though, we ate a vast amount of it ourselves (out of the goodness of our hearts of course) and just let them have wee bits. If they don't know then it is better for them not to have iykwim. Parenting does have some perks.

We let them start the eggs they knew about, then ate heaps of it for them, then let them finish it.

Scout ds is still a bit tender today but happy and bouncy etc so I think he is ok. Fx.

carrots That is my worry, that eeeking it out will make it become more of a habit (I have learnt this from the one-square-after-swimming!) I am obvs very tempted to eat it for them , but tbh I would rather just dump most of it in the bin. DH says it would be a waste, but I didn't ask her to buy it, so why should I feel guility about dumping it?

When DD1 gets loads of crappy sweets in party bags I usually leave it (out of sight) in a cupboard for a few days & if she doesn't mention it, I just bin it so I guess I will just do the same with this.

She came home with 1 easter egg (which she doesn't know about), and about 20 small lindt bunnies/small choc eggs, which would seem like a ridiculous amount of chocolate for me, let alone a 3yo! (AIBU?)

I know my MIL thinks I am an evil bitch a killjoy for not giving them chocolate all the time, but DD1 would honestly be more pleased to get a punnet of strawberries than a chocolate bar & I want to hang on to that while it lasts!

bessie at her age I would either bin it or donate it somewhere. That is a crazy amount for a child that age. It is harder if they have older siblings who do know what they have and are asking for it but, for now at least, you can get away with it.

Is there somewhere locally it could be donated? I struggle with the idea of some dcs going totally without while others have so much it gets binned. I would agree it is better binned than all down her throat though.

My dmum donates a lot of Christmas chocolate to youth groups at the church but they are not really "deserving" iykwim. I would be on the look out for a section collecting in a supermarket or similar for dcs who wont get.

I thought about donating it, but am not sure if they would take it as it is unpackaged? (the bunnies are wrapped in their foil, but out of their plastic boxes)

I am quite relieved you also think it is too much! I also think I am a bit pissed off that we (the four of us) haven't been able to have the egg we bought for us to share as DD1 has had so much other choc. (MIL is lovely, but )

I think I need to think of & start a new family Easter tradition next year. I read somewhere that the Easter bunny brought one family new pants instead of eggs!

Was that zoo who did the pants?

That is why my dmum and dad and why we gave gifts instead of eggs. There is just too much of it otherwise.

I have a similar problem with my dmil. My dparents are very healthy and their treat for the dcs is usually some melon or pancakes etc. My dmil sees the dcs much less frequently so I understand she wants to treat them but she gives them family packs of jelly (ie not vegetarian) sweets EACH.

I am already growing concerned as dd is spending a week with her during the summer holidays. No matter what we say before these events dd always comes back visibly fatter and it takes her months to shift it. (you can't put a child on a diet).

Dsil and dh had terrible weight problems growing up which dsil still struggles with. Dh keeps himself under control but it takes a lot of effort and has "learned" a capacity for junk food that astounds me.

We have tried the "chat" and no matter what we say it is totally ignored.

Our only hope this time is that dd is more self aware nowadays and may not do it to herself even if dmil offers it.

Sorry for the essay - I was just trying to express that I sympathise bessie and that it is very difficult to get some ideas through to other people.

All that said, my dcs have had LOADS of chocolate since Friday but today will be the last day of it. [bugrin] That's an evil grin. Wah ha ha!

I woke up with a sore throat (which seems to be getting worse) and a bit "blah" feeling. I know it's too early for symptoms of that dreaded thing but my mind immediately jumped -- I'm so paranoid now!

Toddler can take or leave chocolate. Usually if offered he looks at the offeree, and sometimes the object, with confusion like "why would I want that" but if you offer it to him in the context of a picnic lunch (especially if it's a Twix) he's all over it like white on rice. His hunt yesterday was all empty plastic eggs and two foil wrapped chocolate ones which I offered to give back for when they do the hunt for the other kids.

Morning all, We are letting our DC have half an egg in the morning then if they want it a bit more later in the day, we let them have a bit more.
We are being slightly more strict with DD than DS. If left to his own devices, he would eat a whole egg in one sitting.
They were given about 5 eggs and some money so we let them buy a toy with the money.

Scout I hope you are going to be o.k.
When do you go home?

Scout that sounds like the stress has got to you. Do you have any camomile tea? That might help.

morning everyone.
ds slept til gone 8....then came down with temp and sneezing
my voice is going...i cant wait til warmer weather comes and all these bloody colds chuff off[grrr]

it was me who does easter pants[bugrin]

i also got them each a new top

mine will have half an egg each today

Yes, definitely must be the stress. Throat still hurts and feeling a bit blah. Not going home until tomorrow.

carrots I remember you said you made some nests yesterday.
Did you put them in the fridge to set?
Did you use Shredded wheat or Rice crispies?

We have just made some with rice crispies but didn't know if they would just set at room temperature.