Am I the only HE'er who is glad that the others have gone back to school?

[singingmum]

Having watched the behaviour of local school children over the hols,I am so happy that they are no longer going to be running riot on the streets all day while their parents let them cause havoc.I know that not all parents let their ds's run riot but a large majority have this summer on this estate and personally I'd like to kill them.Harsh I know,but we've had bored dc's everywhere and have suffered from bullying to our dc's and also damage to our fencing.I'm sick of parents(and it's a couple of families inparticular who are responsible)letting this happen.It's as though they have switched off to their dc's behaviour or aren't used to dealing with it as they don't see them enough or something.
Ok so I know that some people will take offence but we have had bored dc's since the second week of the hols and I just am so glad that these dc's are now off the streets and finally will have something to keep their attention.
I'm not saying that all parents who send their dc's to school are like this but the estate I live on was so lovely until someone started letting houses to tenants that the council and others had evicted etc. and now we have to put up with the side effects of this.
Apologies to anyone who is interested in their children but why can't these parents get a handle on these dc's????
Rant over

Ernst Chain MB.

Tut

by fartmeistergeneral:

"My kids are running wild as we speak. They are outside in the sunshine, on their bikes, shouting and laughing and I have no intention of stopping them - even if there's a HE mother crouched in her house somewhere, clutching her poor darlings close to her in case they get any funny ideas about what childhood is all about...."

Halle-farking-luja!!!!!!!

Alexander Fleming MB? Not that he's ever done much for humanity.

And I expect he ran riot in the summer holidays. Tsk.

typo darlink!

Marie Curie not only went to school but she suffered under the additional burden of both her parents being teachers

And poor only bloody mendalaev's mother died after walking him from Siberia to Leningrad to get him into a good school! Obviously she shouldn't have bothered!

and newton went to school

Is there anybody famous from the late 20th century who has been home educated or who is doing it now?

Some people are repeated even on the same list eg John Witherspoon.

Not sure of the point of the list. It is a history lesson not anything that relates to the 21st century.

and William Shakespeare (probably)

The Bedingfields....

serious question here, who are they???

chocolatedot why is it absurd to include people educated before schools were in use? I honestly can't see how that affects things. Please clarify.

I also fail to see why someone can't be said to have been home educated if they attended school at some point...a lot of home educated children these days also attend school for some of their life...surely that makes the list more relevant to the HE community, not less?

I would also be careful about using phrases like "rejection of the school system" I certainly don't see HE in that way & I doubt all HErs do either. By seeing HE in that way you are showing up your prejudiced views about HE & lumping us all into a category. To paraphrase the chap who appeared on the Wright stuff the other day "The reasons for HEing are as many & varied as the families who Home educate". For us it's a positive lifestyle choice...not a reaction to or rejection of the school system.

Stephen Hawking

I'm just randomly googling 'important' people and its amazing how many of them went to school........

ach, that shakespeare, put your windows in soon as look at you.
William Wordsworth's no better. As for that Isaac Newton. Bloody little troublemaker.

MB - they are pop singers

terramum - it that is your agrument both of my children are home educated up to the age of 4 and since, in the evenings.

Home educators are the only ones to work with their children.

Pop singers

(I sound like my dad...)

Ooh, I hear Stephen Hawking used to put fireworks up cat's bottoms, and steal bicycles. Couldn't concentrate for ten minutes at a time.

Bill Gates has an asbo.

some of those HE philiosopher types were little tinkers tho!

'Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, [some versions have 'Schopenhauer and Hegel']

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.'

Well it would be like publishing a list of people who were say, vegetarians before meat was available to promote vegetarianism. They weren't really vegetarians out of choice, there just wasn't any meat available. The vast majority of people on that list were home educated because that was the sole choice available to them due to various circumstances whether they be geographic, financial or class.

Actually I think it's a pretty embarassing list. As others have noted there are very few people on it who have been HE'd in the last 50 years (when in general it really was an active decision) who have made a great contribution to the human condition.

Nicie - Yes I do think i means you were HEing your LO before they went to school.

I shan't be doing anything different with my DS when he turns 5 - just carrying on with helping him grow & learn. He's managed to walk & talk, count, recognise his name and master loads of other skills under DH's & my guidance so see no reason no to carry on like that - just learning through living (aka autonomous learning for anyone interested). Why on earth wouldn't you want to credit yourself with that achievement?

Not sure I understand the seond part of your post - what do you mean by "Home educators are the only ones to work with their children."

....the Chief Rabbi

Sorry - I've misspelt your name - distracted by curry making blush]

Gloria Steinem definitely went to High School.

Love the comment at the top of the list that the compiler feels that Winston Churchill's SIX years at Eton disqualifies him from inclusion. Gee d'ya think?

...Leonard Bernstein