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Are there any benefits of Primary school that HE can't usually provide?

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carolinecordery · 03/06/2012 19:52

Hello all, I haven't registered my DD for Reception, which she would be eligible to start in September.
I was just wondering if you thought there were any benefits of primary school that HE can't provide. What things are good about primary school that are only available through attending?
I'm planning to HE and am convinced of the benefits of doing so, but want a rounded picture. It's easy to think of loads of things that would be, relatively, a bit crap about primary school, but is there ANY really good reason to go? DD's non-resident dad would rather she went.
Thanks, Caroline

OP posts:
exoticfruits · 08/06/2012 09:58

You will never get understanding if you don't debate it it will be left -them v us.

Marjoriew · 08/06/2012 10:09

I'm not evangelical in the least about anything. At 64 and the life I've had, it doesn't come into my vocabulary. There are days when I don't feel like doing anything with grandson because I know if I try, we both come out feeling like shit. But it's better than being in a classroom, being ignored by someone who is paid to do the job regardless of how crap they are at it, headteachers who have selective hearing where parents/carers are concerned and my grandson having to mix with little thugs who can't keep their hands and feet to themselves.
So, this morning, I will just put my feet up with my mug of tea, large bacon sandwich with brown sauce liberally spread on it, watch Jeremy Kyle while pointing to the screen and thinking 'Well, I would never behave like that'' and pat myself on the head because I'm not like that and then polish up my halo.:)

teacherwith2kids · 08/06/2012 10:23

Marjorie,

As I said further up ther thread, I have HEd, I teach children who are removed from school to be HEd, and have children who are now at school - so I can bring a variety of perspectives to this.

My son's first experience of school - in School A - was very much as you describe "But it's better than being in a classroom, being ignored by someone who is paid to do the job regardless of how crap they are at it, headteachers who have selective hearing where parents/carers are concerned and my grandson having to mix with little thugs who can't keep their hands and feet to themselves.".

However, through experience of a wide variety of other schools - both my children's current school (School B) and the ones I have experience of through teaching in them (Schools C through F with visits to a variety of others) I have come to understand that that experience wasn't typical.

So I would not say that HEing DS was 'better than being in a classroom', I would simply say that it was 'better FOR HIM AT THAT MOMENT than being IN THAT PARTICULAR classroom WITH THAT PARTICULAR TEACHER AND A MINORITY OF HIS PEERS'.

I am not evangelical about school, or about HE, and as long as both provide an education suitable for the child's interests and aptitudes I see both as viable options. Which one is better depends on the child, the school and the home environment, and may well vary with time. I would therefore try to steer clear of generalisations like the one you appear to have made (the 'his particular classroom in the only school he could go to, in particular subjects with weak teachers with a minority of his particular peer group' may have been implied in your post but to miss out those qualifiers does risk putting people's backs up - even for those of us who try very hard to see things from different perpectives in reasonable balance.)

notatschool · 08/06/2012 10:30

Envy @ MarjorieW Grin

So far have got three children dressed and breakfasted and sorted out a fight and cleaned up breakfast from the kitchen floor, now to round everyone up to brush their teeth... Would kill for a bacon sarnie and a bit of tv-judgy-pants time! Enjoy :)

Marjoriew · 08/06/2012 10:36

Well, you ain't having mine, notatschool. I've eaten all of it except the bit that dripped on my t-shirt which I'm keeping for later.:)

Colleger · 08/06/2012 10:39

My son spent four hours practicing music yesterday and ten hours on the computer. I really need to resolve the latter! Hmm

notatschool · 08/06/2012 10:55

It's half term! (If you do that kind of thing.) That's what I tell myself when the kids are on wall-to-wall telly Blush

You're so mean Marjorie Grin DM's having kids for lunch, will get my bacon fix then!

seeker · 08/06/2012 11:00

Just so I know, collager, are you intending to reply to my 9.43 post or not?
I'll repeat it just in case you missed it.
"So, you can say anything you like to anyone- but at midnight a line is drawn under it. You were rude to me and you accused me of making derogatory personal remarks about other people. But because that was yesterday I just have to take it?"

Marjoriew · 08/06/2012 11:05

We don't usually do school holidays, notatschool. Days like today don't make me feel guilty as we usually do stuff throughout and don't have term boundaries. I set the work every day so grandson can get on with it on his own. Researching Samurai at the moment.

Colleger · 08/06/2012 11:06

After music practice is done we are off to the London museums, which I find utterly boring and a nightmare in school holidays but my friends can only do it then. Sigh...

MoreCatsThanKids · 08/06/2012 11:39

Im still in my PJs Shock

DD is still asleep Shock

Spent all day yesterday shopping learning about retail pricing policies, economics and biology (why do my feet hurt so much but DDs dont? Answer - i am very old and had forgotten to wear any socks - DD is young and much more sensible than her mum)

Grin

Have a lovely day everyone - pass the Brew

nelehluap · 08/06/2012 13:49

Have had a brilliant week here too...loads of fun and laughter, camping, countryside walks, quality time spent with the kids....and today DD1 has done some more maths (set by her Dad using KS3 workbooks) and some history about the Battle of Hastings....and once finished she said 'that took me just two hours but would've taken a whole week at school'....and even though I don't HE DD2 she asked to do some maths and has done loads of time table work, three figure additions and some story questions to change into sums. All the work has now been put away and now we're off out to walk the dog in the lovely British weather!....

So there you have it....one child who is HE and loves it and feels she's learning more, remembering it and covering it more quickly and one child who is still going to school but keen to do work at home but is looking forward to going back to school next week.

HE works for one child, school works for the other. Both work for me. :)

MoreCatsThanKids · 08/06/2012 14:30

Thanks neleh

( - thought you might have got washed away - glad to hear it went well :))

Marjoriew · 08/06/2012 14:47

Well, I nodded off in the end. Grandson rummaged in the cupboard and found a robot to put together with a motorized mechanism and he's done the Maths on 10ticks I left out for him and some work on his Titanic model.

nelehluap · 08/06/2012 15:11

morecats....tbh this whole thread bores me!...but thought I'd throw in a post that shows that we can have the best of both worlds with two children, one HE and the other going to school. Suits us perfectly. :)

seeker · 08/06/2012 15:49

If it bores you, why the fuck do your read it/post on it?

notatschool · 08/06/2012 16:35

Maybe because questions that have been debated to death still need answering for people who are new to HE/this board.

There's a large amount of people who have learnt a huge amount about HE due to the time and effort that Julie et al put in. Thanks

Marjoriew · 08/06/2012 16:39

Agree there, notatschool. Julie has worked tirelessly to support other HErs and would-be HErs.

nelehluap · 08/06/2012 18:56

seeker.....firstly you must apologise for swearing. It's not nice and hugely disrespectful.

Secondly this particular thread was very interesting, to begin with, which is why I have read it and posted on it before. But then it became a HE -v- school argument which has droned on and on and in places become quite nasty which is completely unnecessary. I sit on both sides of the fence with one child HE and one in school so see both sides of the debate.

Each to their own opinions and should I wish to post on here that this whole thread has become quite tediously boring then so be it. But atleast I don't swear or insult anyone along the way.

seeker · 08/06/2012 19:02

Absolutely. I apologise unreservedly for swearing. I very rarely do- but I was exasperated beyond belief.

I got so fed up with being deliberately misunderstood, misrepresented and downright insulted when I actually feel as if I have something interesting and possibly even useful to say that I forgot myself.

nelehluap · 08/06/2012 19:14

Thank you seeker :)

Perhaps its time you walked away from this thread if its causing you too much grief and unhappiness.

seeker · 08/06/2012 19:22

It's not causing me grief and unhappiness. It's causing me a certain amount of exasperation and anger. Not least because it paints many HE ers- with some honourable exceptions- in such a bad light. Which I find very sad.

morethanpotatoprints · 08/06/2012 19:23

Hasn't the OP been a H.eder for a week now, lol.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 08/06/2012 19:28

Can I ask a question about HE as I am fairly ignorant about it.

how long do parents HE for - what happens at senior school level when the subject matter becomes harder - how for expample would a parent with no language skills teach a foreign language.

Emandlu · 08/06/2012 19:35

Anothers - if you are thinking about teaching in the conventional sense then you can get distance learning KS3 courses similar to the way the open Uni works.