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Wolf Hall discussion continuation thread

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 11/02/2015 13:10

Continuing the thread from Telly Addicts, just in time for episode 4

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/2288038-Damian-Lewis-fans-line-up-for-Wolf-Hall-tonight?msgid=52500336#52500336

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 16/03/2015 10:51

Or ... "Since I am safely overseas, please go after my relatives. Hugz!"

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 16/03/2015 18:56

Today I have learnt that Mary Boleyn's son has the biggest tomb at Westminster Abbey.

That's kinda cool.

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UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 20:16

Is The Other Boleyn Girl worth watching? It's on telly later ...

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 16/03/2015 20:36

Is it? Haven't seen it...

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Trills · 16/03/2015 20:42

It is worth watching if you are happy to watch a sexed-up romp, with big helpings of The Hat Thing.

(I enjoyed it)

BOFster · 16/03/2015 20:47

Ooh, what side?

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 20:49

A freeview channel - True Entertainment. I watch the avengers on it. But now they haven't got Mrs Peel anymore and it's not the same without Mrs Peel.

BOFster · 16/03/2015 20:53

Ohm, i agree. Diana Rigg was awesome.

I can't seem to get that channel- it's greyed out on my vigin media package.

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 21:03

Its 61 on our freeview thing - we don't have any satelite/cable packages.

BOFster · 16/03/2015 21:44

I think our aerial must be damaged- I've had DP on his hands and knees round the back of the telly in the dust switching all sorts of cables around while I bark orders at him for the past 45 minutes, all to no avail Grin

I don't know how the poor sod puts up with me.

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 21:55

It's OK but probably not worth barking at DP for. Grin It's got Wycliffe in it. Hmm

BOFster · 16/03/2015 21:56

Once he's finished building the fire and has put the bins out, I might persuade him to spend a probably fruitless hour on his laptop trying to find a site without a million pop-ups we can stream it from...

Too far? Grin

I've watched the trailer on IMDB, and it looks a cracking bit of sumptuous nonsense. I'm dying to watch it. I think I even spotted Mark Rylance in it somewhere.

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 22:00

It's not the Natalie Portman one. Grin I've finally sussed that.

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 22:00

It's not that one BOF!

BOFster · 16/03/2015 22:17

Oh really? Which is it?

BOFster · 16/03/2015 22:18

I'm getting a fix of breeches by watching Poldark on catch-up now. It's not quite the same, but it will have to suffice.

UptoapointLordCopper · 16/03/2015 22:35

This one.

I don't want to watch Poldark ... Don't really like costume drama. Wolf Hall was a surprise.

BOFster · 16/03/2015 23:32

I found the 2008 version to stream, and am watching it now.

I've also ordered the DVD of Anne Of The Thousand Days. Genevieve Bujold and Richard Burton.

marshmallowpies · 16/03/2015 23:35

There were TWO versions of the Other Boleyn Girl? One was bad enough!

JeannetheRabid your mention of a children's book about Caxton rang a bell with me - the Load of Unicorn? One of my favourite historical fiction books as a child. All that stuff about Morte d'Arthur and chivalry already being a thing of the past, fascinating.

Another vote for APOGS here. It is a tough read but SO worth it.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 16/03/2015 23:37

It seems there was a "real" history book called The Other Boleyn Girl, before PG nicked the title.

AW referred to it a few times in "MB: The Great and Infamous Whore" which was most confusing.

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 16/03/2015 23:40

LOL at imdb's picture of Philip Glennister with a machine gun.

Surely he's too old to play stafford who I think was younger than MB?

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UptoapointLordCopper · 17/03/2015 21:37

Did the church in those days really prescribe what position you must take for sex!? Shock

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 17/03/2015 21:43

Anything other than missionary and you were a bit of a strumpet, apparently, LordC.

It wasn't supposed to be fun, y'know.

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UptoapointLordCopper · 17/03/2015 22:23

So where did Anne learned all those positions then? Was that one of the reasons why she was in trouble?

Still, it seems a bit much for a bunch of supposedly celibate men to tell people about how to have sex... Where did they write it down? Or did they preach it in their sermons - you must lie so legs here arms there etc? Shock

JeanneTheRabidFeminist · 17/03/2015 22:30

marsh - ooh, yes! I love it when someone else has read any of her books ... they're so good. I did indeed mean the Load of Unicorn.

I loved that story so much. And you know the actual manuscript of the Malory stories does have smudged images of Caxton's type on it, so we know that he did really have it in his workroom? How cool is that?!

upto - see, I believe the theory that if you look at what a society takes great care to legislate against, that tells you what everyone is doing all the time. If medieval society was so keen to insist you shouldn't be shagging doggy-style, woman-on-top, in the church porch (!), in the graveyard, with your neighbour, etc., then probably it's a good clue to what people were doing most often.

I suppose a nice private church porch might have been the equivalent to round behind the bike sheds.

So I suspect that while Anne had all these seemingly fancy sexual skills, probably everyone but Henry thought they were no more than vanilla.