Oxbridge graduates who can’t get a job

[AquaLeader]

Interesting article in The Times this morning.

Meet the Oxbridge graduates who can’t get a (good) job -
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/education/article/oxbridge-graduates-cant-get-good-job-d9ddj9dff

It is unlikely to be a coincidence that the graduates highlighted all appear to hold degrees in the humanities.

Theology because he was interested in it.

“LOL”, who’s subjective here? Slowly again: IQ testing is. It was invented in the very early twentieth century and has never been recognised as having a rigorous scientific basis. The vast majority of experimental psychologists won’t even touch it as a topic, never mind think it offers any kind of real quantitative basis for measuring “intelligence”.

And hello there, do you actually think in the seventeenth century someone was measuring Newton’s IQ? How charming 😆 Experimental psychology didn’t even exist. There was no standardised IQ test that everyone made Einstein, Tesla and Newton take. Their supposed “IQs” are all just conjecture.

Seems like you have zero idea about either science or the humanities, to be honest. And you’re still continuing to argue even though it just makes you look even more of a fool 🤣

Run along now, and stop bothering the grown-ups.

How do you know it is invented? I would think it is statistically (close to) the truth depending on how many significant figures the actual number is rounded to.

I bet your little humanities mind is blown, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, LOL!

stop bothering the grown-ups

This poster certainly doesn't want to reveal whether they're an Oxbridge graduate or not, so you may well be on the money there Miriabelle.

But I really hope that they're not applying for Oxford and Cambridge STEM with an attitude like that, because they'll be shown the door of the interview room pretty fast.

I know it is not close to the truth because I am not an ignoramus. You, on the other hand, come across as someone who knows neither rhetoric nor how to construct a scientific argument.

Just because you scored low in IQ tests doesn't mean IQ tests are to be discarded LMAO, the audacity of humanities students.

Is it just a coincidence high IQ people always gravitate towards quant fields, maths, physics, computer science, engineering, AI?

Is it another coincidence that high-achieving scientists have the highest IQs known to mankind?

Keep coping with your little humanities brain. Maybe ask Albus Dumbledore or Santa Claus for a higher IQ score as your Christmas present. LOL.

Is the list of great authors including JK Rowling intentionally meant to be like the Blackadder joke about the great universities? Or , perhaps more likely, the PP can't name another writer from the last 125 years.

I can Google or ChatGPT that in a couple seconds but chose not to.

After all, it is unfair that I could learn it in a couple seconds whilst humanities, arts, and social sciences students need to spend 3 years to learn it.

I can name Cauchy-Schwarz, does your little brain know what that is? Hmm?

Hopefully those of you battling the provocative troll who thinks Humanities are worthless will realise they are expressing an extreme view which is not representative of other STEM grads, and won't stoop to their level when hitting back.

You don't need to be a social scientist or historian to know that extremist views are at the root of far too many conflicts.

We shouldn't be giving that poster any of our time.
I wonder what they are on?

Can’t actually argue with facts so has to resort to personal attacks, I see. And still harping on IQ tests despite knowing nothing about them 🤣

X, probably. 🤣

I have provided so many facts whilst you provided none. But it is fine cause humanities students are the best at hallucinations and wilful (or actual), weaponised ignorance.

How many people know your double-digit IQ score? Lol

Well, it’s not remotely taxpayer funded these days, so who are you to argue with how people want to spend their time and money?

Posting fact free nonsense is not the mark of a serious STEM person.

😂

In reply, I would tell you that the Government's recent Post-16 Education & Skills White Paper is aimed at addressing the imbalance of graduates versus required skills: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/post-16-education-and-skills-white-paper

These things need to be handled with diplomacy, strategy and economics, not extreme language and ignorance.

After all these years a true searing intellect has appeared on these boards. The depth of intellect demonstrated in these posts has shaken me to the core. Like others have asked do you mind revealing your academic background. It would be nice to understand where such knowledge and critical thinking was nurtured.

Kind regards,

Daisy Unning-Kruger

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When it comes to taxpayer funding, UK STEM students should be thanking their lucky stars their courses are subsidised not only by international students but also by humanities students who have to pay the same price for their courses, despite their courses being much cheaper to run. If the quality of argument from this “humanitiesareworthless” poster is indicative of the quality of STEM graduates, generally, I think STEM education in the UK also urgently needs overhauling.

I don't think divisions like this are very helpful. There are some very clever STEM and some very clever humanities students. I probably sit at the cross over as a lawyer and whether my 152 mensa score, law prizes etc mean anything or not is something people can always debate. I was obviously good at tests and exams and I am pretty good at law and hopefully learn something new every day.
As to who subsidises university foreigners pay a lot (I would rather we cut back those coming to study here even if university fees go up however). Those teenagers from England who will never do a day's work in their life are given the gift of a student loan from tax payers and never have to pay a penny back if they never work so university remains completely free for plenty , However lots will now pay it back and most do intend to work.

Law is complicated as 50% of people don't do a first degree in law and might well do Engliih or history (or anything else) first then then convert afterwards (similar to accountancy) so we don't really divided into STEM or otherwise in my profession.

I certainly know a lot of scientists who move into law even with a PhD in biotech because they want to earn more money. On the other hand plenty of lawyers serve the needs of rhte few scientists who found companie and make much more than even law firm partners on £1m a year before tax would make.

It's not only not helpful to try to assert a division, it also shows either huge inexperience of the world in general or just an absurdly narrow mind.

Countless STEM graduates are incredibly talented in other disciplines and the same is true in reverse.