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What can I do with this sense of loss? **Title edited by MNHQ**

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MovingonupScotland · 16/09/2024 20:15

Any ideas for coping with the sense of loss? Dropped my dc off for their first term at Uni last week. Since getting home I've spent most of the time in tears. I feel so unbearably lost. Thanks 😢

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MovingonupScotland · 18/09/2024 10:21

BeckyAMumsnet · 18/09/2024 09:50

Hello, everyone.

We think it's abundantly clear from the OP that she is looking for support and has no intention of offending anyone. We're not seeing much understanding of that throughout this thread.

We’ve removed several posts haranguing the OP simply because you disagree with her choice of words. Even when the title was changed - at their request- it carried on. The OP was expressing their personal feelings—feelings that are valid, no matter how different they may be from your own.

It’s important to remember that just because we don’t resonate with someone’s experience doesn’t give us carte blanche to invalidate or attack it. The OP was clear in her post that she’s feeling a profound sense of loss as her daughter leaves for university. Comparing this to grief is her way of processing these emotions, and that’s her reality. Piling on someone because of how they choose to describe their feelings is not only unhelpful, it goes against the supportive environment we all want here.

We all experience life in different ways, and empathy means trying to understand—even when we disagree. Let’s keep Mumsnet where people can come for help, not fear being criticised for their emotions.

Thanks for understanding.

Thank you 🙏🏼

And no, @User543211, I'm not a narcissist.

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BitOutOfPractice · 18/09/2024 11:10

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MabelMora · 18/09/2024 21:58

RestartedYesterday · 18/09/2024 09:38

Good job nobody said it was a bereavement then isn’t it?

Yes they did.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 16/09/2024 21:50

It is grief, it is loss and it is a bereavement.

Bestyearever2024 · 19/09/2024 10:25

@MovingonupScotland .....how are you feeling today?

IncessantNameChanger · 19/09/2024 11:17

This thread has made me think that as a mum.you just can't win or get it right. If your cry your narcissistic making it all about you. If you pull back then your cold and your child will forever being saying "my parents didn't even buy me food and they cleated my room out".

I'm not sure where the sweet spot of being a supportive but not overbearing parent is.

Op I hope your feeling better. I'm still cleaning his room. Only contacted him once, second guessing how I should feel and what I should be doing

CautionOperatives · 19/09/2024 11:19

One thing I’ve found slightly helpful is asking myself if I’d feel better if DS turned up on the doorstep announcing he’d decided to drop out of uni and stay at home. The answer is very much no, for his sake, and so for his sake I feel happy that he is studying even if for my own sake I miss him.

CrazyGoatLady · 20/09/2024 06:32

IncessantNameChanger · 19/09/2024 11:17

This thread has made me think that as a mum.you just can't win or get it right. If your cry your narcissistic making it all about you. If you pull back then your cold and your child will forever being saying "my parents didn't even buy me food and they cleated my room out".

I'm not sure where the sweet spot of being a supportive but not overbearing parent is.

Op I hope your feeling better. I'm still cleaning his room. Only contacted him once, second guessing how I should feel and what I should be doing

The reactions you're describing are the unhealthy extremes - either extreme sadness and grief, or complete numbness and cutting off. Most parents fall somewhere in between.

I don't think anyone is saying parents can't be sad when their child leaves home, just that they shouldn't compare it to the grief of a parent whose child has died and they shouldn't make their child responsible for their own sadness or the void that's left because they've gone through a perfectly normal and expected life stage of leaving home to go to university. The parent's feelings are their own responsibility, as is gradually doing things to help adjust to the new reality.

I think on Mumsnet and other internet forums we don't get the full context of someone's life and relationships and therefore what's often missing is WHY people feel how they do.

My mum was one of those parents who immediately cleared out my room, repainted it to her own taste, etc. I think that was a reaction to the difficult teen years, she was relieved those were over and she had her life back. At the same time, I never wanted to move back home and she never wanted that either. She did support me at uni financially at a basic level, although I worked, and therefore didn't come home often except short visits - was never one of those kids that went home for the holidays. Her reaction probably would seem cold to many parents on here, but we had a terrible relationship from when I was 14-18, so in that context, it was understandable, she was protecting herself. It took about 10 years for us to heal and forge a new relationship and as adults, we're good. .

rainfallpurevividcat · 20/09/2024 08:10

MabelMora · 18/09/2024 21:58

Yes they did.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 16/09/2024 21:50

It is grief, it is loss and it is a bereavement.

That's not the OP though. People have criticised her unfairly.

5475878237NC · 20/09/2024 09:39

CrazyGoatLady · 20/09/2024 06:32

The reactions you're describing are the unhealthy extremes - either extreme sadness and grief, or complete numbness and cutting off. Most parents fall somewhere in between.

I don't think anyone is saying parents can't be sad when their child leaves home, just that they shouldn't compare it to the grief of a parent whose child has died and they shouldn't make their child responsible for their own sadness or the void that's left because they've gone through a perfectly normal and expected life stage of leaving home to go to university. The parent's feelings are their own responsibility, as is gradually doing things to help adjust to the new reality.

I think on Mumsnet and other internet forums we don't get the full context of someone's life and relationships and therefore what's often missing is WHY people feel how they do.

My mum was one of those parents who immediately cleared out my room, repainted it to her own taste, etc. I think that was a reaction to the difficult teen years, she was relieved those were over and she had her life back. At the same time, I never wanted to move back home and she never wanted that either. She did support me at uni financially at a basic level, although I worked, and therefore didn't come home often except short visits - was never one of those kids that went home for the holidays. Her reaction probably would seem cold to many parents on here, but we had a terrible relationship from when I was 14-18, so in that context, it was understandable, she was protecting herself. It took about 10 years for us to heal and forge a new relationship and as adults, we're good. .

No one has said "what I feel is a comparable experience to the death of a child". People have said it is an experience of grief (which literally means emotional reactional to something changing!). So it IS. This is so tedious.

Quitecontrarywithnoflowers · 20/09/2024 10:45

This thread has made me think that as a mum.you just can't win or get it right. If your cry your narcissistic making it all about you. If you pull back then your cold and your child will forever being saying "my parents didn't even buy me food and they cleated my room out".

I'm not sure where the sweet spot of being a supportive but not overbearing parent is.

^ Too right! This needs to be said more often. Parents are always in the wrong nowadays however hard they try!

MovingonupScotland · 20/09/2024 15:45

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MovingonupScotland · 20/09/2024 15:51

Posted on wrong thread. So sorry. Have asked for it to be deleted.

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IncessantNameChanger · 20/09/2024 16:04

Quitecontrarywithnoflowers · 20/09/2024 10:45

This thread has made me think that as a mum.you just can't win or get it right. If your cry your narcissistic making it all about you. If you pull back then your cold and your child will forever being saying "my parents didn't even buy me food and they cleated my room out".

I'm not sure where the sweet spot of being a supportive but not overbearing parent is.

^ Too right! This needs to be said more often. Parents are always in the wrong nowadays however hard they try!

Yes I agree. Your kids beat you up emotionally for getting it wrong, your own parents criticise your parenting. It's a bit shit being a parent sometimes. The poem about your parents fucking you up is forefront in my mind this week.

I have sent a two line WhatsApp since my son left. He's has sent me three, one liners. Rather than being grateful he's still clearly alive, I'm wondering if I'm self absorbed, to invested or cold and distant. I'm only going to send him one brief message a week and that could be taking in so many negative ways. I'm going to trust my gut that this is a hard time as I love him, I miss him and realistically he has left home now. I don't think that's toxic or weird and will pass as we both settle in our new normal snd find a contact balance we are both happy with.

I'm sure by the time my fourth leaves I will either achieve perfection or not give any more fucks. And whichever it is i will be wrong.

CrazyGoatLady · 21/09/2024 07:53

5475878237NC · 20/09/2024 09:39

No one has said "what I feel is a comparable experience to the death of a child". People have said it is an experience of grief (which literally means emotional reactional to something changing!). So it IS. This is so tedious.

There was an implication in some posts that it is equivalent (not necessarily OP's) because some posters did conflate grief and bereavement, which are different things. OP also admitted herself she was dismissive/snappy towards a poster whose child had died, and apologised.

I can see both angles on this, because the sadness and sense of loss OP was talking about was so intense and she did mention feeling bereft. It could be seen as not a healthy reaction, but it was the reality of how she felt and she needed some validation in the moment. Some people wanted to offer perspective, but that is not necessarily always what a person wants or needs when they're experiencing an intense emotional reaction. We generally don't want to hear "it could be worse" at that point. That's something you assimilate later when you start feeling more rational.

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