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University offers coming in?

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WombatChocolate · 27/09/2023 09:54

Just for nosiness and due to excitement about DS’s application going in, wondered if we could have a thread with people sharing offers as they are received, during this early phase.

Has anyone had an offer yet? Who will be first?

And totally realise that most won’t have applied yet and won’t do so for months and that’s absolutely fine and more normal.

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Revengeofthepangolins · 19/10/2023 20:17

It is really a sort of acknowledgement. He hasn't been instantly dinged or got an early offer but has been put into their "think about it" pile. From what I have seen in the past it doesn't seem to have any implications for offer likelihood. Often means it will be a while before he hears more.

lastdayatschool · 19/10/2023 20:21

UniDaysAcoming · 19/10/2023 20:15

DS tells me ALL his friends have got offers now! I'll take that with a pince of salt...
He's got a Hold from Bristol. Any idea what that means?

It's means he meets the criteria for the course he's applied to and will be considered for an offer.

My DS had the same last year. Took a couple of months before an offer was made

Rosemaritia · 20/10/2023 08:55

Ds has his first offer for Economics from Nottingham. He was delighted this morning when he found out. His application went in 11th October.

Rollergirl11 · 20/10/2023 12:21

To recap, is it the following universities that have made offers so far?

Bristol
York
Birmingham
Manchester
Liverpool

Rollergirl11 · 20/10/2023 12:27

Sorry I meant Leeds and not Liverpool

sambamyty · 20/10/2023 12:36

@Rollergirl11 I have see Liverpool have made offers on WIWIKAU

EleanorSidgwick · 20/10/2023 12:40

@Rollergirl11 also Nottingham and my son's friend has had an offer from Southampton for CompSci

lifeturnsonadime · 20/10/2023 13:00

Rollergirl11 · 20/10/2023 12:21

To recap, is it the following universities that have made offers so far?

Bristol
York
Birmingham
Manchester
Liverpool

My DS has offers from:

Royal Holloway, and

Queen Mary University of London

stoneysongs · 20/10/2023 13:10

DD has an offer from Liverpool, they are definitely getting on with it.

Rollergirl11 · 20/10/2023 13:30

I suppose DD should feel relieved that haven’t seen anyone mention any of the unis she’s applied to yet.

mondaytosunday · 20/10/2023 14:00

And also @Rollergirl11 just because some offers have gone out doesn't mean there won't be more from the same universities later on! Some people do t even apply gif another couple months (though of it was me I'd be getting my application in now just to shorten the agony if possible)!

Jaxx · 20/10/2023 14:03

Was expecting Exeter offers by now judging by previous years - but haven’t seen anything yet. Knew there was little to no chance of an early offer from 3 of my son’s 5 choices: Cambridge, Durham and UCL.

Any additions to the following so far?

Birmingham
Bristol
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester
Nottingham
Queen Mary
Royal Holloway
Southampton

RockaLock · 20/10/2023 14:05

Jaxx · 20/10/2023 14:03

Was expecting Exeter offers by now judging by previous years - but haven’t seen anything yet. Knew there was little to no chance of an early offer from 3 of my son’s 5 choices: Cambridge, Durham and UCL.

Any additions to the following so far?

Birmingham
Bristol
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester
Nottingham
Queen Mary
Royal Holloway
Southampton

DS1 has had an offer from Sheffield.

WobblyLondoner · 20/10/2023 14:27

Jaxx · 20/10/2023 14:03

Was expecting Exeter offers by now judging by previous years - but haven’t seen anything yet. Knew there was little to no chance of an early offer from 3 of my son’s 5 choices: Cambridge, Durham and UCL.

Any additions to the following so far?

Birmingham
Bristol
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester
Nottingham
Queen Mary
Royal Holloway
Southampton

York.

Jaxx · 20/10/2023 14:33

Birmingham
Bristol
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester
Nottingham
Queen Mary
Royal Holloway
Southampton
Sheffield
York

I knew York! I’m clearly not the best person to maintain the list.

Lightsabre · 20/10/2023 15:09

Ds hasn't heard from Southampton yet. Wonder if offers are course specific.

WobblyLondoner · 20/10/2023 15:46

Lightsabre · 20/10/2023 15:09

Ds hasn't heard from Southampton yet. Wonder if offers are course specific.

Yes, they will - and individual specific too. I don't mean that in a snarky way, just that there will be 100s of people who have not heard from a university for every one person who has. My DS has an offer from York for eg but also has applications into other universities on the list shared earlier and has no offers from them.

One of the challenges of this kind of information sharing is, of course, that feeling of worry that your child hasn't heard anything at all.

PocketSand · 20/10/2023 15:50

You can add UEA

WombatChocolate · 20/10/2023 16:06

For the most competitive courses at the most competitive unis, if anyone gets an early offer, they tend to be those with 3 x Astar in-hand or predictions.

The closer people’s predictions are to the minimum required grades (ie offer) for very competitive courses at competitive unis, the more likely they are to effectively be ‘on hold’ - think Economics, Psychology etc at the very top places.

Other unis which make early offers may well make offers to everyone who applies who has the required grades as predictions. Some might not make offers to those who have exactly the required grade until later, but to others as they come in.

But essentially, the higher your predicted grades or offers in hand, if a uni does make some early offers for some courses, the more likely you are to be getting one. That doesn’t mean though that others with good predictions/grades won’t get an offer…bu t they might have to wait longer.

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Lightsabre · 20/10/2023 16:48

WombatChocolate · 20/10/2023 16:06

For the most competitive courses at the most competitive unis, if anyone gets an early offer, they tend to be those with 3 x Astar in-hand or predictions.

The closer people’s predictions are to the minimum required grades (ie offer) for very competitive courses at competitive unis, the more likely they are to effectively be ‘on hold’ - think Economics, Psychology etc at the very top places.

Other unis which make early offers may well make offers to everyone who applies who has the required grades as predictions. Some might not make offers to those who have exactly the required grade until later, but to others as they come in.

But essentially, the higher your predicted grades or offers in hand, if a uni does make some early offers for some courses, the more likely you are to be getting one. That doesn’t mean though that others with good predictions/grades won’t get an offer…bu t they might have to wait longer.

Yes, I thought this was how it works. I think it must be course specific as ds predicted grades are well above the typical offers for his course.

Revengeofthepangolins · 20/10/2023 18:50

Very very course specific

WombatChocolate · 20/10/2023 19:13

Yes, some courses are exceptionally over-subscribed, even once you take into account that they have to over-offer to fill, because lots will accept somewhere else or. It make the grades. Others (majority) struggle to fill, even if they look competitive and have high grades as the standard offer.

Unis basically gather more info as the year progresses and adjust the amount ofoffers they are giving at that moment in light of the info. Until the end of Jan, they don’t know for sure how many applications or the quality of them. Until people start firming and insuring, they don’t know how many really want to put them first, so how many further offers they can or can’t make.

Factor in targets and goals for makimg contextual offers and offers to international students, and they are basically running multiple offer lists. No doubt, past experience gives a good indicator of how many applicants there will be, how many might firm, insure and fail to meet their offer…..or it was useful info pre Covid, when things were more certain. It’s been harder for unis since TAGs and CAGs and inflated grades and return to 2019 grading etc etc….all very up and down and more difficult to predict.

The popular ones were burnt by having too many make their grades in the Covid years. Struggles with accommodation and too many students for the facilities then ensue. But making too few offers and not filling is an economic nightmare for them too. I guess they have to be quite dynamic in their offer making and respond to circumstances as they occur….you see it in the Clearing details pre and post A Level offers. It has some similarities to EasyJet releasing batches of seats on planes with varying prices. Obviously it’s. It totally the same, but I think there are some similarities. And each uni course has differing levels of over or under subscription in each place, which is why it’s so hard to know what each place is up to.

I imagine that at some of the very popular places and courses, which often give out the majority of offers after Feb and often into May, by the end, they are literally watching for one offer holder to essentially decline them, by firming somewhere else, before they can make another offer….or something similar. Until people start firming and insuring, they haven’t got enough info to make the final offers (or not) to those they are basically ‘holding’. But often people aren’t able to firm and insure u til they hear from them! So at some point those unis have to make the decisions. At the very last minute, that’s why there can be lots of declines, which is very harsh for those who applied early and have held lots of offers for months, but couldn’t firm and apply for accommodation elsewhere, because they were waiting for the final place. It with pre-grades applications, there’s no easy way round the circus.

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mondaytosunday · 20/10/2023 19:34

@WombatChocolate that's why I wonder about places like Durham who offer so late. I know of a few who withdrew (and same with St A) as they just couldn't wait any longer and wanted to get on with it at another uni, especially as it could always be a no from Durham and they'd be at the bottom of the list for housing at some places.

EleanorSidgwick · 20/10/2023 21:11

I have also heard of some recent offers from Warwick for maths and Sheffield for Comp Sci

jlpth · 20/10/2023 21:19

Yes also Warwick offer yesterday

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