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University offers coming in?

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WombatChocolate · 27/09/2023 09:54

Just for nosiness and due to excitement about DS’s application going in, wondered if we could have a thread with people sharing offers as they are received, during this early phase.

Has anyone had an offer yet? Who will be first?

And totally realise that most won’t have applied yet and won’t do so for months and that’s absolutely fine and more normal.

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Violasrule · 02/11/2023 19:13

@Dixiechickonhols

The star disappeared.

AstarAA was Nottingham, AAB Lancaster

toobusytothink · 02/11/2023 19:28

@Headingto18 no - Computer science

Dixiechickonhols · 02/11/2023 20:11

Violasrule · 02/11/2023 19:13

@Dixiechickonhols

The star disappeared.

AstarAA was Nottingham, AAB Lancaster

That’s an good offer for Lancaster law. It has a decent reputation. I thought it was nice when we did open day. Mine discounted it as its campus and too local, it’s most popular destination for her sixth form.

sambamyty · 02/11/2023 20:17

Finally had a first offer - Lancaster for compsci !

RosieMilkJug · 03/11/2023 13:40

What is the offer @sambamyty if you don’t mind me asking?

Rollergirl11 · 03/11/2023 13:52

Congratulations @sambamyty DD!! I know you’ve had a long wait since her application went in. Hope you have a flurry of them now.

DD received an offer from Warwick earlier, standard offer of AAA or A*AB. Think that will be her lot for a bit now as not expecting to hear from Durham anytime soon. Now just to wait and see if she gets an interview for Cambridge.

sambamyty · 03/11/2023 13:54

RosieMilkJug · 03/11/2023 13:40

What is the offer @sambamyty if you don’t mind me asking?

AAB for compsci

sambamyty · 03/11/2023 13:54

Thank you @Rollergirl11 . It's a huge relief!

Congratulations on you dc offers too

Norma27 · 03/11/2023 14:45

My dd now has offers from Leeds, Nottingham and York.
Waiting for Durham, and to see if invited to interview at Oxford.

ShanghaiDiva · 03/11/2023 14:52

Dd has an interview at Loughborough for natural sciences.

RosieMilkJug · 03/11/2023 15:00

sambamyty · 03/11/2023 13:54

AAB for compsci

Thank you 🙏

Mumski45 · 03/11/2023 15:43

Hi DS has not submitted his UCAS application yet as waiting for school to do their bit and then TMUA result.

However I'm interested to hear if anyone has offers yet for MORSE at Warwick or Lancaster.

@Dixiechickonhols hi, I remember chatting with you before our DC started at secondary. Hope your DD is ok and coping with this year's workload. Good luck to her with Uni applications.

Dixiechickonhols · 03/11/2023 16:38

Mumski45 · 03/11/2023 15:43

Hi DS has not submitted his UCAS application yet as waiting for school to do their bit and then TMUA result.

However I'm interested to hear if anyone has offers yet for MORSE at Warwick or Lancaster.

@Dixiechickonhols hi, I remember chatting with you before our DC started at secondary. Hope your DD is ok and coping with this year's workload. Good luck to her with Uni applications.

Thank you. That seems a long time ago now! She’s stayed at sane school for sixth form. She’s working hard, 3 more to hear from. I’m glad ucas application/personal statement and lnat all done.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/11/2023 17:17

Another offer for Natural Sciences at Lancaster AAA.

Camdenish · 04/11/2023 22:55

Could anyone explain to me about these early offers as I was under the impression that unis that sign up to UCAS have an equal consideration date of sometime in January.

I understand that Oxbridge and some medical courses have opted out, but how and why do some unis/courses do this. Where is this published?

I like to understand the rules and I’m a bit confused and concerned as early offers seem to be unequal consideration.

lanthanum · 05/11/2023 00:18

Some universities will make offers to everyone whose predicted grades are over a certain level, regardless of whether the application is received now or in January. They've enough experience from previous years to know what level of offer they can make and be sure not to end up with too many. They may well be the 3rd/4th/5th choice of the Oxbridge applicants, so many of those offers will not be accepted even as an insurance offer.
They might also do another round of offers later when the deadline is past and they know how many applications they've got, so not getting an offer now might not mean there won't be an offer later.

mondaytosunday · 05/11/2023 11:43

@Camdenish I agree with you it's taken me some time to wrap my head around this. I always thought as there are a finite amount of spaces surely there will be fewer and fewer places to offer if they make so many early on? But I guess they know what they are doing, and there are enough places kept back to give to qualified candidates that apply closer to the January deadline. Of course they must have statistics of how many acceptances to offers made - it is not absolutely accurate so there must be enough flexibility so good applicants still get offers.

ShanghaiDiva · 05/11/2023 12:18

Also some of the offers made will be rejected before the January deadline and can then be ‘re-offered’.

WombatChocolate · 05/11/2023 12:38

People don’t tend to decline offers before the Jan deadline. They only essentially decline, when they choose to firm and insure the 2 they choose for this purpose. At this point their other 3 are declined. But at the point where people start firming and insuring, universities have the last bits of info they will have before the Aug results and will know if they can make some final offers or not, based on how many firm and insure them from the offers given.

It’s all a numbers game isn’t it - unis trying to ensure they fill up (need the fees) but don’t over-fill, and that they fill with the best candidates they can get. It’s a delicate balancing act if making offers, ‘holding’ applications to see what other applications or firm/insures come in, and declining. For the vast majority of courses, if your PG meet the standard offer, you will get an offer at some point.

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Camdenish · 05/11/2023 15:11

Thanks all. I think I understand what is going on, it’s pretty much asI thought. What I don’t understand is why UCAS call the January date the Equal Consideration date. Because it doesn’t seem to be!

For schools admissions every one waits until January and then it’s all dealt with at once. I’d have been miffed if a family putting their choices in in October got offered a place as it does mean one less place in January.

My DD is interested in art schools and the one college we asked waits to offer until the equal consideration date. Someone asked at the open day and they were very clear about this. I suppose I can’t get my head around some places doing one thing and others doing the other and yet it still being “fair”.

Thanks for humouring the hard of thinking over here! :)

WombatChocolate · 05/11/2023 15:43

I suppose, that given most will offer to everyone who meets their standard offer requirement, there is ‘equal consideration’ regardless of whether they offer now or later. The vast vast majority of courses will be offered like this. The fact they’ve offered to some now, won’t disadvantage any who don’t apply until Christmas….because they know they will still be able to offer to everyone who meets the standard requirement and even then will often have to put some places into Clearing.

For the few (and it really is a few) courses in very popular places which can’t offer to everyone who meets the standard offer, they are actually far more likely to wait until later to give offers. In this sense equal consideration is given. They might make their first offers to some who have top grades and are contextual applicants or those with grades in hand already, or international students. As they get to the bulk of non-contextual UK students with predicted grades, they might have to also look at GCSE results and PS in order to rank applicants. These very very popular courses might hold off offering to those who just meet the standard offer, in hope more applicants who are stronger will appear. Many will essentially be ‘on hold’ through Jan, Feb, March. They might be very strong applicants, even with 3x Astar predictions or grades in hand, as the uni watches to see if some firm and insure other places (Oxbridge applicants with Oxbridge offers might well do this) which means their applications can be discarded. As more time passes, Unis have a smaller pool of those waiting to receive offer/decline (some waiting might decline as other places start offering accommodation to firm applicants) and also find some of their own offers are declined. This allows them to have a clearer sense of how many further offers they can make. Unfortunately, with some of the very very popular courses at places like London, Durham, Edinburgh, many are essentially ‘on hold’ until the deadline, when eventually the unis have to make their final offers and decline the rest. These really top level students don’t know if they will be offered or not. Some get sick if waiting by Feb/March and accept and firm somewhere else, but others will hold onto th,e bitter end. They might be pleased or disappointed.

But for these students, it probably doesn’t matter if they applied in September or in January. Essentially for them, there is Equal Consideration, as very few earlier offers are made and when they are made early, there’s often a reason such as contextual student or other special circumstances that everyone else doesn’t know about. And for all the the other unis and courses, early offers don’t impact equal consideration, because they will need to offer to everyone meeting the standard offer…and whether the application goes in in September or if January, an offer will be received anyway. It’s worth telling students this….they honestly dont need to panic. Whilst it’s nice to have 2 or 3 offers in the bag now or before Christmas and this perhaps is a benefit psychologically and allows them to get on with their A Levels, in terms of offers, it really won’t make any difference i the end.

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SnoopDogisamenace · 05/11/2023 16:14

@Tiggermum14 that’s fantastic. What Maths course at Edinburgh is that offer for? DS has applied for MMath. 4 A* predictions. Waiting impatiently now😬

Camdenish · 05/11/2023 19:24

I think I sort of get it but I also sort of don’t! Anyway, thanks for letting me take the thread sideways a little.
I am excited for all those children getting offers. They’ve all had a tough few years and it’s nice when something goes right.

Tiggermum14 · 05/11/2023 21:07

SnoopDogisamenace · 05/11/2023 16:14

@Tiggermum14 that’s fantastic. What Maths course at Edinburgh is that offer for? DS has applied for MMath. 4 A* predictions. Waiting impatiently now😬

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Thank you! It was for the BSc not the MMath…

PumpkinKnitter · 06/11/2023 12:56

DD now has an offer from Exeter as well as Bristol. Two down, three to go!

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