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OR 22 - Edinburgh, Warwick, St A, UCL, Durham, Nottingham, Bath and more

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Valleyofthedollymix · 28/03/2022 09:16

Following on from the Oxbridge rejects thread but I've got rid of those two words. I for one am interested to know where they all end up and when Durham might finally deign to reject/offer DS...

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CaliforniaDrumming · 01/04/2022 18:43

We had an email from DS's indie school today. I won't quote directly but in a nutshell it said:

(1) Many have received disappointing news.
(2) Many still waiting and a quarter of the decisions still to come in, which is apparently unprecedented. Issues especially with LSE, KCL, Durham, UCL, Edinburgh. This is normal across the country this year with more applicants than usual.
(3) Unis have told the school that their decisions may not be complete till May 19th.

Eightytwenty · 01/04/2022 18:44

Ha ha ha to popcorn.

@Forfar4 this happened to a friend’s DC this week. Wonder whether it is the same course (Neuroscience instead of biology). Unless you are of course my friend in disguise (paranoid moment).

Forfar4 · 01/04/2022 18:54

@eightytwenty, maybe I am your friend in disguise! That's actually the same situation.... Although I don't think I do know you, so that's really interesting to hear this has happened to others.

Eightytwenty · 01/04/2022 19:31

@Forfar4 how funny. We should have a secret code to check. Anyway sounds a fabulous alternative and quite a creative way to get awesome students to fill courses with vacancies.

Valleyofthedollymix · 01/04/2022 19:47

I just wanted to stress how brilliant my friend Lurky is (she'll be reading) and how I want her to come and post. She's got a readymade username: delurkymcdelurkface. Which I grant you, isn't catchy.

I'm sadly not in St Andrews as I'm even more embarrassing than the other parent.

Re. the neuroscience vs biology - given the flexible nature of Scottish courses, does it make a huge difference?

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Eightytwenty · 01/04/2022 19:49

Darn it @Valleyofthedollymix I don’t believe it.

Forfar4 · 01/04/2022 19:53

Well maybe you're right Valley about the flexibility thing - hopefully we will find out at offers day tomorrow.

SimpleShootingWeekend · 02/04/2022 16:14

Just heard of an insanely high Edinburgh history offer (AAA). I think there's going to be carnage at clearing this year.

I’ve heard that too. History is AAA-AAB so if it’s true they’ve got a right cheek banging it up by 2 grades. Ds would never have picked them if he’d known that any offer was likely to be that high. It was a toss up between Edinburgh, Glasgow and York for the last slot on the form and as Glasgow and York appear to have not lost their minds then it was, with hindsight, a mistake to pick Edinburgh. I’ve suggested he withdraw and crack on but he wants to wait and see if they offer.

Puffalicious · 02/04/2022 17:43

@SimpleShootingWeekend

Just heard of an insanely high Edinburgh history offer (AAA). I think there's going to be carnage at clearing this year.

I’ve heard that too. History is AAA-AAB so if it’s true they’ve got a right cheek banging it up by 2 grades. Ds would never have picked them if he’d known that any offer was likely to be that high. It was a toss up between Edinburgh, Glasgow and York for the last slot on the form and as Glasgow and York appear to have not lost their minds then it was, with hindsight, a mistake to pick Edinburgh. I’ve suggested he withdraw and crack on but he wants to wait and see if they offer.

Interesting, as I now know of 3 applicants who Glasgow rejected but Edinburgh offered to. It's all so bloody random!
kulfi · 02/04/2022 18:29

Hope you don’t mind me chipping in. I’ll be going through this next year again - can’t wait already. This Edinburgh last minute grade increasing does seem not on, but I wonder if it’s all to do with quotas? I suspect Edinburgh gets a lot more applicants from England and overseas than Glasgow (eg, DD’s London school, Edinburgh is one of the most popular uni destinations, year on year, but nobody seems to think to apply to Glasgow for some strange reason). Edinburgh and St A’s might have had so many applicants from England (many with inflated grades from last year perhaps), that they’re having to raise the offer conditions to this group for this year. Seems a cheek though - to do something different than advertised on the website. Confused

readsalotgirl63 · 02/04/2022 18:34

I am always amused by the preference for Edinburgh over Glasgow, especially as Glasgow is older and higher ranked in some subjects. However I am a graduate of Glasgow so am biased.

Eightytwenty · 02/04/2022 20:53

@Valleyofthedollymix @Forfar4 @Stockpot hope you all had a good day! We’re exhausted walked miles but felt it was well run, a good balance of lectures and a chance to look at halls. Ran out of time to attend the academic fair but otherwise had a good day.

@CaliforniaDrumming missed your post yesterday. That is good that the school has acknowledged what we are seeing anecdotally. Doesn’t make it any easier for these hard working and otherwise successful kids though.

Stockpot · 02/04/2022 21:25

We also missed the academic fair which is a shame. It was a good day. The students were lovely and the prospective students and parents were a lovely bunch. DD is feeling very sold on St Andrew’s.

Puffalicious · 02/04/2022 22:37

@readsalotgirl63

I am always amused by the preference for Edinburgh over Glasgow, especially as Glasgow is older and higher ranked in some subjects. However I am a graduate of Glasgow so am biased.
Me too! I went to Strathclyde, higher ranked for my subject than either Edinburgh or Glasgow (in fact it's #1 in the UK for Accountancy and where 2 of DS's friends are going).

DS has offers for all 3 and not sure where to go. The only reason he's not definitely firmed Glasgow is because we live here and I quite fancy him having the experience of going away (despite knowing I'll miss him horrendously!). It does make me wonder why Edinburgh is so ridiculously popular.

kulfi rest assured there are many, many, many students at Glasgow from overseas and the rest of the UK. And, P.S. it's a better city (totally biased Glaswegian here Grin).

Forfar4 · 02/04/2022 23:07

Thanks eightytwenty also had a really good day - v friendly and appealing, lots of flexibility to change direction - which is helpful given DC's situation (having an offer for a different subject to the one they applied for.)

Notagardener · 03/04/2022 07:28

In boredom sometimes lurking as Was in same situation last year (this time last year DC was still waiting for 3 results, and when she got LSE offer withdrew from the other 2), and still have another DC to go through uni application...
Anyway, just to say in response to being offered a different course; 4 years ago dc1 got offer from a London uni which wasn't quite the same he applied for. So not that unusual...

Stockpot · 03/04/2022 08:00

DD told me she applied to Cambridge for feedback.
When I told her I wished she hadn’t, she told me she I thought that I would be proud that she was trying to learn from the experience. Sad
Normally I would be, but I don’t want her to get some vague negative stuff in the middle of a levels that just makes her question herself and her worth. In this case I worry it will be rejection all over again without any actionable insight.

Piggywaspushed · 03/04/2022 08:27

The Edinburgh thing is surely class related? It is viewed as posh/ refined (and probably not very Scottish...). Even as a Glaswegian, objectively, it's a beautiful city. The same sort of upmarketness is attached to St Andrew's and Durham. To an outsider, somewhere as big as Glasgow, with its grittier reputation might seem a step too far for many English young people. It is, after all, a long way from home. It's all about the social bubbles.

DS was attracted to course at both Edinburgh and Glasgow but both just seemed too far away in the end - it's generally a fairly confident, well travelled, perhaps even quite monied sixth former who chooses a university more than 3- 4 hours from home. ( I did, but I hated my family!) Shouldn't overlook the fact that lots of students at Edinburgh (and Durham), if not from the NE of England are from Home Counties - quite a direct route on high speed trains from London.

Stockpot · 03/04/2022 09:03

I think there is some truth to what you say @Piggywaspushed.
For us, it’s guilty as charged. I don’t think we qualify as posh, but for most people in London/home counties Glasgow seems further away. Also as the capital Scotland more of us will have visited Edinburgh. This adds up to more familiarity/comfort with Edinburgh. It creates a feedback loop where you know more other kids trying for Edinburgh, further cementing it as a possible option.
All that said, the journey through these threads mean I will definitely want to check out Glasgow for DD2 who loves STEM. I don’t want her to miss out on what could be a great fit/opportunity for her. (Then again, she is quiet and shy and may not want to be far from home at all. We will see.)

Eightytwenty · 03/04/2022 09:11

I’m a big fan of Glasgow, the architecture, what there is to do and especially the people. I lived there for several years as a child. But I can see why Edinburgh is more attractive.

Edinburgh has I think a higher percentage of RUK / International residents. It always feels more cosmopolitan and outward looking. At the university the majority of people come from elsewhere (even if just from the other side of the bridge). A friends son went to Glasgow this week and was told that 40% of Glasgow students are from Glasgow. Making it more of a London type university. Wonder if that’s the same situation in Manchester/ Belfast / Leeds etc…

Piggywaspushed · 03/04/2022 09:44

Not Leeds, I don't think.

Nearly everyone I went to school with went to Glasgow or Strathclyde, a few went to Edinburgh (but not because the perception was it was better) and some to Stirling, Aberdeen, a couple to Cambridge. Think I was the only one who otherwise went south of the Border. No one went to St Andrew's!

AmeliaShepherd · 03/04/2022 09:53

We were also at the St Andrews offer day yesterday and managed a welcome talk, 3 subject talks and a quick spin around the academic fair. We weren’t able to fit in either a tour of the accommodation or the town but are already pretty familiar with it. Lovely to hear the wedding bells in St Salvador’s Chapel and see the wedding parties. A fair few photographs must have had students and visitors in the background!

Interestingly, at the welcome talk and one of the subject talks a show of hands was taken as to where applicants were from. Almost entirely UK centric so presumably International applicants make other arrangements. A pretty even balance of Scottish and English applicants with a few from Wales, NI, and only 1 from the EU. In both groups they said it was a pretty typical spread.

Puffalicious · 03/04/2022 10:31

@Piggywaspushed

The Edinburgh thing is surely class related? It is viewed as posh/ refined (and probably not very Scottish...). Even as a Glaswegian, objectively, it's a beautiful city. The same sort of upmarketness is attached to St Andrew's and Durham. To an outsider, somewhere as big as Glasgow, with its grittier reputation might seem a step too far for many English young people. It is, after all, a long way from home. It's all about the social bubbles.

DS was attracted to course at both Edinburgh and Glasgow but both just seemed too far away in the end - it's generally a fairly confident, well travelled, perhaps even quite monied sixth former who chooses a university more than 3- 4 hours from home. ( I did, but I hated my family!) Shouldn't overlook the fact that lots of students at Edinburgh (and Durham), if not from the NE of England are from Home Counties - quite a direct route on high speed trains from London.

Piggy you've summed it up beautifully. I suppose I had only really thought of the class aspect, but your other points really make sense. That self-perpetuating bubble situation is so true stockpot.

I commented in jest that Glasgow is a better cityGrin. I really do love Edinburgh too and don't buy into this rivalry. I'm there fairly regularly, and spent a glorious summer teaching EAL after I graduated, as well as performing in the fringe 2 years in a row when I was a bit younger (jeez, that was a lifetime agoShock). DH has worked in Edinburgh quite a bit too and we like a jaunt for shopping/ mooching/ eating away from the tourist areas.

Same as you, everyone at my school went to Glasgow/ Strathclyde/ The Art School/ RSAMD , a few to Edinburgh/ Aberdeen/ specialist places in the Borders, but noone to St As/ England. There is indeed a huge tradition of staying at home in Glasgow, in direct contrast to everywhere else/ RUK. An interesting way of looking at it as similar to a London University. The 40% quoted by Eighty sounds exactly right. All my friends at uni were from Glasgow and the surrounding areas, except for one from Belfast and one from the NE. I rarely came across a Southern English accent.

It is grittier, bigger and further away and much more working class, similar to Manchester, I think. I suppose it really is just geography that's the negative. It means that people that do decide to come here are made of strong stuff, just the way we like them Grin.

DS really, really is a big city kid- loves the countryside we have, but essentially at almost 18 likes very much to party Grin. I think it's drawing him but I don't want him to make this decision based purely on where has the best clubs!Confused. It doesn't help that all but two of this friends are staying at home. One is off to Dundee (wants to escape) the other grew up in London so is comfortable heading back.

Stockpot · 03/04/2022 10:52

@AmeliaShepherd, we missed the academic subject talks entirely. I’d be interested to hear what you learned.
We actually ran into about three American families who were all quite chatty and friendly.

AmeliaShepherd · 03/04/2022 11:28

Stockpot Each of the departments had a stand manned by an academic and sometimes a current student. Was well organised. Some had handouts (and a few freebies). It was pretty busy but we did manage a couple of quick chats about subjects my DS had earmarked as possible second and third subjects. It was useful from that point of view but both pointed out that decisions were taken in September after speaking to a module advisor. Son did say he didn’t particularly learn anything he hadn’t already gleaned online but it was really nice to sit in some of the teaching rooms, meet some of the staff and see some of your peers.