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Another path to greatnesses

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chopc · 26/01/2021 05:40

I woke up around 4:30 this morning and it hit me like a tonne of bricks. Couldn't get back to sleep so thought I will have a go and starting the new thread. Hope the title is not too cheesy

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Beetlesand · 26/01/2021 13:35

And Loving the cat pics . Smile

Crikeyblimey · 26/01/2021 13:38

Joining in on the cat pics - think one of ours was broken last night...

Another path to greatnesses
bendmeoverbackwards · 26/01/2021 13:41

That's good to hear @par05 what subject is she studying?

chopc · 26/01/2021 13:43

@Tenpastseven didn't know you would have it in you! (Your response to the imposter)

I would normally respond to that but don't have the Oomph for it today. I knew those that matter would understand the feelings behind the thread title.

Having had such little sleep last night I may have lost track of all the messages

@hellsbelles my DS does not want to reapply and I don't think he should as he had the best paper application possible for him. But as your DS has an unusual situation where he would do something else anyway then I think it's worth considering. However be sure to get feedback so you can improve on it.

I know she is not popular in mumsnet but over j. TSR Oxford mum has written in her Oxford demystified about Oxbridge reapplication. Might be worth a read

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par05 · 26/01/2021 13:46

@bendmeoverbackwards English literature, what was your Dc studying was it english too?

chopc · 26/01/2021 13:47

@Jan069 your son's experience does indeed sound terrible. The thing Durham history requires the same grades as Cambridge history so .........

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Millylovespuddles · 26/01/2021 13:58

Scooting over to join the ranks!

Millylovespuddles · 26/01/2021 13:59

DS, who was definitely not Oxbridge material, somehow managed to scrape into Durham and had a wonderful time.

bendmeoverbackwards · 26/01/2021 14:02

@par05 no it is History (well Ancient and Modern History). Dd is kicking herself now for not considering straight History courses as she might have had more unis to choose from. She was so set on Oxford she doesn't think she thought carefully enough about her other choices. I hope there is some flexibility on changing course. But I've heard that History is more competitive than AMH at Durham so it looks like she'll have to hang on for an offer to come.

Nice to see you @Millylovespuddles how is your dd doing? She's Medicine right?

WarmAndco3y · 26/01/2021 14:09

I have been lurking ( clearly unsuccessfully), thinking I want to take a day to digest things a bit more before posting. Then I saw @Moominmammacat’s post and like @Crikeyblimey I had to sit on my hands and stop myself from posting after concluding clearly people have decided to ignore it.
Seeing responses by @Tenpastseven and @BigWoollyJumpers has brought me out again. Also given me a good chuckle.
Never understood why people are like that.

Just maybe our DC want to achieve highly and we don’t need to put it on them, just maybe that’s the way the are wired. Everyone has different things that excite them or they are passionate about.
Also jumping in mid journey without knowing the history of what you are commenting on, by this I mean ‘redirected’ made me roll my eyes.
Anyway on a better note.... I’m marking my place and will post properly later today/ tomorrow.
Surprisingly DS has gone off his 1st choice after C which is Durham for PPE ( no offer yet). And now prefers KCL which was his 4th choice.
We’ll see how it all unfolds

Crikeyblimey · 26/01/2021 14:11

DS does seem to be leaning towards Durham but I have reservations about it (not that it is in any way my choice / decision) that maybe some of you can help dispel.

DS went to state primary / secondary and sixth form college. We are ‘northern’, reasonably ordinary etc. and I just worry he won’t get as broad an experience as he would at say, Bristol (big buzzy trendy city).
He is super clever and driven but also plays guitar in a band / writes their music / plays rugby at a decent level / has hippy vegan tendencies 🤣

Not sure what I’m getting at really but I’d hate for him to find he is a fish out of water and possibly he would find more broad a group of friends / opportunities to try new stuff elsewhere??? Or perhaps I’ve read one too many things about the negatives of life at Durham...

It is so bloody hard to form a view when they can’t visit to get a feel for a place isn’t it?

chopc · 26/01/2021 14:11

@KingscoteStaff I would love to know more about Durham life. What college was your DS at? Does it matter as all lectures are central? Is there opportunity to play team sports? Do you know how hard it is to get into the cricket team?

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chopc · 26/01/2021 14:17

@calculatorqueen nice to have you back. How is your DS feeling now he has had time to digest his disappointment?

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hellsbelles · 26/01/2021 14:29

@chopc yes interesting point about him doing other stuff anyway - my thinking was that as this has been an odd year by the looks of it they may have a better chance next year...
we are definitely getting feedback and I think DS was cheered by the pool situation as well - so if the feedback is positive he may be more inclinedto try again.
But the reality is - and I feel bad admitting this but I think it's far more about me than him.

I had a horrible education and just was so excited
when he really did (on paper) have everything he
needed to get an Oxbridge offer.

He's under the (probably correct!) impression he'll have
a lot less pressure and more fun at his other options.

He also pointed out that as a lot of his equally 'on paper'
perfect classmates didn't get offers and are
going elsewhere that there will be a lot of healthy
competition wherever he ends up - which he thrives off.

KingscoteStaff · 26/01/2021 14:31

@chopc I've PMed you with Durham (+cricket!) info

Beetlesand · 26/01/2021 14:40

Is it May when they have to narrow down to firm and insurance? I guess there won’t be a chance to visit some of these places irl before then which is a real shame. I’m hoping once offers are all out, unis might do more virtual offer days or virtual tours etc

Bumpsadaisie · 26/01/2021 15:05

Just happened upon this thread and I was wondering what Redirection was - think I have got it now!

I applied to Oxford back in the day, didn't get in. Worked hard for A levels and applied to Cambridge the following year and got in. It was the making of me - so much better prepared and so glad looking back that it turned out as it did.

Painful as it is, it is a really valuable experience for your DC.

Millylovespuddles · 26/01/2021 15:16

@bendmeoverbackwards
Yep, medicine.... just to add to this year's marathon obstacle course of getting a place, applications are up by approx 5000.

The 2020 application cycle is just full of twists and turns!

bendmeoverbackwards · 26/01/2021 15:21

How is she feeling @Millylovespuddles?

Pumpkintopf · 26/01/2021 15:38

Oh gosh @Millylovespuddles that's a huge increase.

Just a note to any dc who may be contemplating asking for C feedback - DS had a letter from the college he applied to saying all requests have to be in, digitally signed by your referee, by the 8th Feb - and they hope to respond to them all by Easter..!

chopc · 26/01/2021 15:43

Really @Pumpkintopf . That's good to know as I told DS to message his college and say he particularly wants to know about his HAA assessment and interviews . No harm - they can always tell him to get referee to send email

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Millylovespuddles · 26/01/2021 15:51

@pumkintopf I really hadn't considered before the statistic that only 25% of medics get accepted on the first attempt .... I'm starting to change my mind, but staying hopeful!

Millylovespuddles · 26/01/2021 15:54

@bendmeoverbackwards she's far more resilient than me and is keeping her spirits up. She just continues on with her work and assignments, taking it all in her stride.

chopc · 26/01/2021 16:00

@Crikeyblimey perhaps someone in the Durham thread may be able to advise you?

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ImsorryWilson · 26/01/2021 16:13

"DS went to state primary / secondary and sixth form college. We are ‘northern’, reasonably ordinary etc. and I just worry he won’t get as broad an experience as he would at say, Bristol (big buzzy trendy city).
He is super clever and driven but also plays guitar in a band / writes their music / plays rugby at a decent level / has hippy vegan tendencies 🤣 "

I posted a rubbish response to something similar yesterday- was so mortified I asked for it to be deleted. Will try to do better today.

  1. no, of course the experience isn't as broad as being in bristol but isn't his first job likely to be in London/bigcity after that? He has the rest of his life to live in cities.
  2. The Durham problem is that the people-who've-been-taught-to-be-obnoxious-and-tell-you-it's-funny can be quite dominant in some colleges because they are present disproportionately (the only other place with as high a percentage is St Andrews). But your son sounds like he wouldn't give a shit. That would earn him instant respect.

The key with these people is when they ask what school you went to to say the name of your school - no explanation, no apology. When they start their endless rounds of in-jokes ["left-footers" meant Catholic, I learnt in a particularly boring evening] you need to be able to walk away. And never, ever, ever, start remembering all the boring shit they tell you about Rugby school verus Ampleforth.

They are very insecure but not usually trying to bully - it's the weird culture of [some of] this country's [not quite top] boarding schools that they've been brought up with.

I think in truth they would admire your son - possibly openly so. In my Durham college (one of the worst) they openly admired and treated as a leader those more mature people who just weren't bothered (sadly I was not one of those mature people).

So it's a case of needing to be a bit more mature/sure of yourself/secure.

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